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Martha

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Since: Sep 22, 2003
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2003 2:04 am
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Hi Everyone,

Aimee is doing very well physically after her spay, but I have a question.
Okay, several questions! :-) Has anyone experienced a bun with radical
behaviour changes after they have been spayed? I have noticed at least three
really drastic changes, and I'm not quite sure what to make of it. These
emerged quite suddenly over the last 5 days or so (as I have been giving her
more freedom as she heals).

Firstly, before last week, she hadn't been much of a digger, with only a few
minor exceptions. Now all of a sudden, she is a digging fiend trying to dig
at *everything*. Any similar experiences? Also any ideas on what I can do to
protect the carpet? What can I provide for her as a safe alternative to
satisfy her digging urges (without having dirt all over the house <g>)? She
is completely an indoor bunny. I have a fair number of wild visitors in my
backyard, so I don't feel comfortable letting her out there. Also, since
this is Canada, the backyard will be buried under 4 feet of snow soon
enough! ;-)

Also, she used to *love* to play with her ball. She would herd it all over
the place, "honking" the whole time. It was adorable to watch. Now she
barely acknowledges that it's there.

Lastly, when it was time to return to her cage, I just had to hold a treat
by the entrance for her, and she'd hop right in. Mission accomplished with
no muss or fuss. This is definitely not the case now. She doesn't get
confined to her cage for much time in the day (about 5 hours in a 24 hour
period) but I don't want to make this a stressful event.

Any thoughts/stories/suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

I also noticed today that she hadn't eaten her veggies today, which has me
concerned. I'm not going to ring any alarm bells just yet, though, since it
was her first day of remaining in her room (as opposed to the cage) while I
slept. As she heals, I've been slowly trying to return to her normal
routine. Perhaps she was just too busy enjoying the regained freedom. I have
seen her munching on hay. I'm just about to bring some fresh veggies
upstairs to see if that tempts her at all.

Take care,
Martha

email is: AimeeandMartha at yahoo dot com

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Martha

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2003 2:22 am
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Hi again,

I haven't received any replies, either here or by email, to the questions
below. My apologies if I have been taking up too much of the groups' time; I
certainly don't mean to. If at all possible, I would really appreciate some
ideas about the digging question in particular.

Knowing that it's such an instinctive habit, I have no expectations of
stopping it. Rather, I am looking for safe alternatives to redirect her to,
given the fact that she is a completely indoor bun.

Thank you very much for your help! :-)

Martha

"Martha" <unknown.TakeThisOut@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:alrdb.113192$Lnr1.93415@news01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com...
> Hi Everyone,
>
> Aimee is doing very well physically after her spay, but I have a question.
> Okay, several questions! :-) Has anyone experienced a bun with radical
> behaviour changes after they have been spayed? I have noticed at least
three
> really drastic changes, and I'm not quite sure what to make of it. These
> emerged quite suddenly over the last 5 days or so (as I have been giving
her
> more freedom as she heals).
>
> Firstly, before last week, she hadn't been much of a digger, with only a
few
> minor exceptions. Now all of a sudden, she is a digging fiend trying to
dig
> at *everything*. Any similar experiences? Also any ideas on what I can do
to
> protect the carpet? What can I provide for her as a safe alternative to
> satisfy her digging urges (without having dirt all over the house <g>)?
She
> is completely an indoor bunny. I have a fair number of wild visitors in my
> backyard, so I don't feel comfortable letting her out there. Also, since
> this is Canada, the backyard will be buried under 4 feet of snow soon
> enough! ;-)
>
> Also, she used to *love* to play with her ball. She would herd it all over
> the place, "honking" the whole time. It was adorable to watch. Now she
> barely acknowledges that it's there.
>
> Lastly, when it was time to return to her cage, I just had to hold a treat
> by the entrance for her, and she'd hop right in. Mission accomplished with
> no muss or fuss. This is definitely not the case now. She doesn't get
> confined to her cage for much time in the day (about 5 hours in a 24 hour
> period) but I don't want to make this a stressful event.
>
> Any thoughts/stories/suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
>
> I also noticed today that she hadn't eaten her veggies today, which has me
> concerned. I'm not going to ring any alarm bells just yet, though, since
it
> was her first day of remaining in her room (as opposed to the cage) while
I
> slept. As she heals, I've been slowly trying to return to her normal
> routine. Perhaps she was just too busy enjoying the regained freedom. I
have
> seen her munching on hay. I'm just about to bring some fresh veggies
> upstairs to see if that tempts her at all.
>
> Take care,
> Martha
>
> email is: AimeeandMartha at yahoo dot com
>
>

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2003 2:22 am
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Martha:
I haven't had exactly the same experience as you, but Cissy has always been
somewhat of a digger and chewer. I make sure she always has a couple of
cardboard boxes with bottoms in them. I put them on a tile floor so when she
digs through the box, there's nothing to damage underneath. She digs in the
cardboard and chews too. I tried putting newspaper inside the box but that
backfired on me. Since I use newspaper in their litter box, she assumed that the
box was a potty when it had newspaper in it <g> I sometimes put a towel in there
for them to scrabble with. Some people have said that putting throw rugs down
over the carpet works for them. I put seagrass mats anywhere she shows an
interest in chewing. She loves nibbling on the grass mats and never bothers
what's under them.

BB (my male bunny) loved to push a ball before his neuter, now he hardly touches
it. He used to circle the ball a lot as well as circle us (a hormonal thing) and
now that the urge is gone, he isn't as interested in the ball. At least this is
what I attribute it to.

I don't know what to advise you about getting her back to her cage ... Mine
still come running when I bring out the pellets and go right into the cage to
get them. I close the door and it doesn't seem to upset them in the least. Maybe
you could try planning the cage time to a time when she normally gets fed and is
hungry. Maybe someone else will have some other suggestions.

Good Luck ... Glad she is doing well otherwise.
--
{)(}
(*.*) Dori ...
{"}{"} BB and Cissy

email me = dorineu at writeme dot com
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"Martha" <unknown DeleteThis @nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:KHMdb.164082$DZ.56449@news04.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com...
Hi again,

I haven't received any replies, either here or by email, to the questions
below. My apologies if I have been taking up too much of the groups' time; I
certainly don't mean to. If at all possible, I would really appreciate some
ideas about the digging question in particular.

Knowing that it's such an instinctive habit, I have no expectations of
stopping it. Rather, I am looking for safe alternatives to redirect her to,
given the fact that she is a completely indoor bun.

Thank you very much for your help! :-)

Martha

"Martha" <unknown DeleteThis @nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:alrdb.113192$Lnr1.93415@news01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com...
> Hi Everyone,
>
> Aimee is doing very well physically after her spay, but I have a question.
> Okay, several questions! :-) Has anyone experienced a bun with radical
> behaviour changes after they have been spayed? I have noticed at least
three
> really drastic changes, and I'm not quite sure what to make of it. These
> emerged quite suddenly over the last 5 days or so (as I have been giving
her
> more freedom as she heals).
>
> Firstly, before last week, she hadn't been much of a digger, with only a
few
> minor exceptions. Now all of a sudden, she is a digging fiend trying to
dig
> at *everything*. Any similar experiences? Also any ideas on what I can do
to
> protect the carpet? What can I provide for her as a safe alternative to
> satisfy her digging urges (without having dirt all over the house <g>)?
She
> is completely an indoor bunny. I have a fair number of wild visitors in my
> backyard, so I don't feel comfortable letting her out there. Also, since
> this is Canada, the backyard will be buried under 4 feet of snow soon
> enough! ;-)
>
> Also, she used to *love* to play with her ball. She would herd it all over
> the place, "honking" the whole time. It was adorable to watch. Now she
> barely acknowledges that it's there.
>
> Lastly, when it was time to return to her cage, I just had to hold a treat
> by the entrance for her, and she'd hop right in. Mission accomplished with
> no muss or fuss. This is definitely not the case now. She doesn't get
> confined to her cage for much time in the day (about 5 hours in a 24 hour
> period) but I don't want to make this a stressful event.
>
> Any thoughts/stories/suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
>
> I also noticed today that she hadn't eaten her veggies today, which has me
> concerned. I'm not going to ring any alarm bells just yet, though, since
it
> was her first day of remaining in her room (as opposed to the cage) while
I
> slept. As she heals, I've been slowly trying to return to her normal
> routine. Perhaps she was just too busy enjoying the regained freedom. I
have
> seen her munching on hay. I'm just about to bring some fresh veggies
> upstairs to see if that tempts her at all.
>
> Take care,
> Martha
>
> email is: AimeeandMartha at yahoo dot com
>
>
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Anthony

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2003 2:22 am
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Martha,

we're having the same problem with our bunny, who's was castrated
around 2 weeks ago.

He used to have a little dig at things, but nothing extreme. Since
coming home, he has destroyed a couple of bits of carpet, is much more
bold and adventurous (climbs in cupboards etc.). I was going to post
here to ask the same questions as you did.

To try and counter it, we've put obstacles in as many corners of each
room, as possible (as Benny especially likes corners for digging).
We've left cardboard boxes around the house that have carpet off-cuts
inside, so that he can dig those.

If you find her digging, nudge or lift her away, but immediately
provide an alternative (cardboard tubes / magazines etc), so that she
can try and work out what to chew and not.

By all accounts they should calm down after 2-4 weeks.

Good luck!
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Shan

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2003 3:20 pm
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Martha,I don't have much experience on this particular topic,but I can tell
you that I have a male bunny that hasn't been neutered yet(next month..)and
he has never been a digger....or destructive at all...and I have recently
adopted a female bunny who has been spayed Aug 14 ....she is so spiteful and
destructive....and she digs everywhere....! I recently spoke to the girl at
the rescue and she told me (as Arlette told you already)that it's
hormonal....she needs time since the spay is so recent.In the meanwhile I'm
doing the same thing other people suggested already,she has lots of toys and
cardboard boxes...and newspapers...and lots of chew toys like pear tree
sticks etc.
She should calm down...I'm in the same situation !!
I'm also in Canada....Ontario
Shan


"Martha" <unknown RemoveThis @nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:alrdb.113192$Lnr1.93415@news01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com...
> Hi Everyone,
>
> Aimee is doing very well physically after her spay, but I have a question.
> Okay, several questions! :-) Has anyone experienced a bun with radical
> behaviour changes after they have been spayed? I have noticed at least
three
> really drastic changes, and I'm not quite sure what to make of it. These
> emerged quite suddenly over the last 5 days or so (as I have been giving
her
> more freedom as she heals).
>
> Firstly, before last week, she hadn't been much of a digger, with only a
few
> minor exceptions. Now all of a sudden, she is a digging fiend trying to
dig
> at *everything*. Any similar experiences? Also any ideas on what I can do
to
> protect the carpet? What can I provide for her as a safe alternative to
> satisfy her digging urges (without having dirt all over the house <g>)?
She
> is completely an indoor bunny. I have a fair number of wild visitors in my
> backyard, so I don't feel comfortable letting her out there. Also, since
> this is Canada, the backyard will be buried under 4 feet of snow soon
> enough! ;-)
>
> Also, she used to *love* to play with her ball. She would herd it all over
> the place, "honking" the whole time. It was adorable to watch. Now she
> barely acknowledges that it's there.
>
> Lastly, when it was time to return to her cage, I just had to hold a treat
> by the entrance for her, and she'd hop right in. Mission accomplished with
> no muss or fuss. This is definitely not the case now. She doesn't get
> confined to her cage for much time in the day (about 5 hours in a 24 hour
> period) but I don't want to make this a stressful event.
>
> Any thoughts/stories/suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
>
> I also noticed today that she hadn't eaten her veggies today, which has me
> concerned. I'm not going to ring any alarm bells just yet, though, since
it
> was her first day of remaining in her room (as opposed to the cage) while
I
> slept. As she heals, I've been slowly trying to return to her normal
> routine. Perhaps she was just too busy enjoying the regained freedom. I
have
> seen her munching on hay. I'm just about to bring some fresh veggies
> upstairs to see if that tempts her at all.
>
> Take care,
> Martha
>
> email is: AimeeandMartha at yahoo dot com
>
>
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2003 12:31 am
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my bunny had pms 1 time and i was shocked! A bitchy bunny ok im already a
little bitchy do i need 2 put up w/ my pmsing bunny! Hey there really is
another women in the house lol but should i honestly give her a tampon i mean
shes kinda small and idk do they make tampons 4 bunnies my bunny needs a tampon
if they dunt sum1 invent one it would sell and u can become rich and bye lots
of bunnies
'linda
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