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Since: Jun 30, 2004
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 12:33 pm
Post subject: PETA PROBLEM
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I have a question does Peta rally for insects? Insects are living
creatures as well, and people around the world squash them daily.
Sometimes they don't get squashed well, and they run around with guts
hanging out until a person finally throws a good death strike. If Peta
doesn't is it because insects are not as smart as animals? That might
be a good idea, if they actually prioritize species by their
intellect. Where smart animals are the most important worry, followed
by dumb animals, and then insects, bacteria etc. It does make one
wonder why human kind isn't their top agenda though? I guess after
humans would come chimpanzees, monkeys, apes, dolphins, pigs, dogs
those kinds of things. I tend to use being self-aware as criteria for
who is smart enough and who isn't. Why feel bad for a thing if it
doesn't realize it exists? But then again I feel bad for ventriloquist
dummies, poor things all paralyzed it's so sad. Point is if you equate
chickens to people, you should equate cockroaches and bacteria to
chicken as well. I sure hope you don't wash yourself with
antibacterial soap... Instead of worry about all life (since you kill
countless amounts of life everyday) why not worry about intellectual
life and the smartest happens to be your own species.
Or you could just worry about what is the cutest looking. But then
that might make you the cruelest of all for neglecting ugly
intelligent suffering life. |
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 1:13 am
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"trongon2000" <trongon2000 DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> I have a question does Peta rally for insects? Insects are living
> creatures as well, and people around the world squash them daily.
> Sometimes they don't get squashed well, and they run around with guts
> hanging out until a person finally throws a good death strike. If Peta
> doesn't is it because insects are not as smart as animals? That might
> be a good idea, if they actually prioritize species by their
> intellect. Where smart animals are the most important worry, followed
> by dumb animals, and then insects, bacteria etc. It does make one
> wonder why human kind isn't their top agenda though? I guess after
> humans would come chimpanzees, monkeys, apes, dolphins, pigs, dogs
> those kinds of things. I tend to use being self-aware as criteria for
> who is smart enough and who isn't. Why feel bad for a thing if it
> doesn't realize it exists? But then again I feel bad for ventriloquist
> dummies, poor things all paralyzed it's so sad.
Have a word with ~~jonnie~~ he has a dummy named useless object. He's a real
sad bastard.
Point is if you equate
> chickens to people, you should equate cockroaches
[~~jonnie~~ again]
and bacteria to
> chicken as well. I sure hope you don't wash yourself with
> antibacterial soap... Instead of worry about all life (since you kill
> countless amounts of life everyday) why not worry about intellectual
> life and the smartest happens to be your own species.
Not in your case
>
> Or you could just worry about what is the cutest looking.
I used to, but my wife stopped me.
But then
> that might make you the cruelest of all for neglecting ugly
> intelligent suffering life.
That was good, when are you going to send part 2? |
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 1:55 pm
Post subject: Re: PETA PROBLEM [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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"Ray" <ray RemoveThis @syntex.com> wrote in message news:<cbvof0$2r$1@hercules.btinternet.com>...
> "trongon2000" <trongon2000 RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:540de89a.0406301133.46b2c71c@posting.google.com...
> That was good, when are you going to send part 2?
Part Two: With A Vengeance
Yeh I like the classy BS ending statement it makes me feel like I'm a
news reporter. Jonnie sounds cool as long as their dummy eats bugs and
squashes chickens. I actually was thinking that the argument for
creature kindness might be act nice to anything with a brain. (Too bad
I'm not included...good one). Nervous system, brain area that kind of
thing. But that still includes insects so be kind to them. So the
argument still holds valid if you care about a bird why not a bug? >> Stay informed about: PETA PROBLEM |
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 11:42 pm
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"trongon2000" <trongon2000 DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> "Ray" <ray DeleteThis @syntex.com> wrote in message
news:<cbvof0$2r$1@hercules.btinternet.com>...
> > "trongon2000" <trongon2000 DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:540de89a.0406301133.46b2c71c@posting.google.com...
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> > That was good, when are you going to send part 2?
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>
> Part Two: With A Vengeance
>
> Yeh I like the classy BS ending statement it makes me feel like I'm a
> news reporter. Jonnie sounds cool as long as their dummy eats bugs and
> squashes chickens. I actually was thinking that the argument for
> creature kindness might be act nice to anything with a brain. (Too bad
> I'm not included...good one). Nervous system, brain area that kind of
> thing. But that still includes insects so be kind to them. So the
> argument still holds valid if you care about a bird why not a bug?
I would not intentionally kill anything, including a bug.
We all cause CDs - that's an unavoidable act. >> Stay informed about: PETA PROBLEM |
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2004 4:15 pm
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On 30 Jun 2004 12:33:56 -0700, trongon2000 RemoveThis @yahoo.com (trongon2000) wrote:
>I have a question does Peta rally for insects? Insects are living
>creatures as well, and people around the world squash them daily.
>Sometimes they don't get squashed well, and they run around with guts
>hanging out until a person finally throws a good death strike. If Peta
>doesn't is it because insects are not as smart as animals? That might
>be a good idea, if they actually prioritize species by their
>intellect. Where smart animals are the most important worry, followed
>by dumb animals, and then insects, bacteria etc. It does make one
>wonder why human kind isn't their top agenda though? I guess after
>humans would come chimpanzees, monkeys, apes, dolphins, pigs, dogs
>those kinds of things. I tend to use being self-aware as criteria for
>who is smart enough and who isn't. Why feel bad for a thing if it
>doesn't realize it exists? But then again I feel bad for ventriloquist
>dummies, poor things all paralyzed it's so sad. Point is if you equate
>chickens to people, you should equate cockroaches and bacteria to
>chicken as well. I sure hope you don't wash yourself with
>antibacterial soap... Instead of worry about all life (since you kill
>countless amounts of life everyday) why not worry about intellectual
>life and the smartest happens to be your own species.
>
>Or you could just worry about what is the cutest looking. But then
>that might make you the cruelest of all for neglecting ugly
>intelligent suffering life.
· "ARAs" contribute to the deaths of animals by their use of
wood and paper products, electricity, roads and all types of
buildings, their own diet, etc... just as everyone else does.
What they try to avoid are products which provide life
(and death) for farm animals. All that "AR" really has to
"offer" is the elimination of domestic animals, and the elimination
of human wildlife population management. · >> Stay informed about: PETA PROBLEM |
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2004 6:15 pm
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<dh_ld.RemoveThis@nomail.com> wrote in message
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> On 30 Jun 2004 12:33:56 -0700, trongon2000.RemoveThis@yahoo.com (trongon2000) wrote:
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> <snip>
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> · "ARAs" contribute to the deaths of animals by their use of
> wood and paper products, electricity, roads and all types of
> buildings, their own diet, etc... just as everyone else does.
> What they try to avoid are products which provide life
> (and death) for farm animals. All that "AR" really has to
> "offer" is the elimination of domestic animals, and the elimination
> of human wildlife population management.
What leads you to make the statement that ARAs promote the elimination of
domestic animals? Nothing could be further from the truth.
Also, I am a little uncertain about your 'Elimination of human wildlife
population management' ? What do you mean?
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> >> Stay informed about: PETA PROBLEM |
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sat Jul 03, 2004 6:29 am
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On Fri, 2 Jul 2004 18:15:28 +0000 (UTC), "Ray" <ray RemoveThis @syntex.com> wrote:
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><dh_ld RemoveThis @nomail.com> wrote in message
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>> On 30 Jun 2004 12:33:56 -0700, trongon2000 RemoveThis @yahoo.com (trongon2000) wrote:
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>> <snip>
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>> · "ARAs" contribute to the deaths of animals by their use of
>> wood and paper products, electricity, roads and all types of
>> buildings, their own diet, etc... just as everyone else does.
>> What they try to avoid are products which provide life
>> (and death) for farm animals. All that "AR" really has to
>> "offer" is the elimination of domestic animals, and the elimination
>> of human wildlife population management.
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>
>What leads you to make the statement that ARAs promote the elimination of
>domestic animals?
They do.
>Nothing could be further from the truth.
How could people keep domestic animals, if animals are given
the right of freedom?
>Also, I am a little uncertain about your 'Elimination of human wildlife
>population management' ? What do you mean?
They would put an end to killing animals in order to manage
the size of their population. >> Stay informed about: PETA PROBLEM |
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sat Jul 03, 2004 5:22 pm
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<dh_ld RemoveThis @nomail.com> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 2 Jul 2004 18:15:28 +0000 (UTC), "Ray" <ray RemoveThis @syntex.com> wrote:
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> >
<snip>
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> >What leads you to make the statement that ARAs promote the elimination of
> >domestic animals?
>
> They do.
>
> >Nothing could be further from the truth.
>
> How could people keep domestic animals, if animals are given
> the right of freedom?
My animals are free, they come and go at their leasure.
>
> >Also, I am a little uncertain about your 'Elimination of human wildlife
> >population management' ? What do you mean?
>
> They would put an end to killing animals in order to manage
> the size of their population.
You mean Ward Clark style?
Rightly so.
What gives you the right to manage the animal population? Remember you, like
all humans are an animal!
Nature takes care of itself.
Without doubt, there are too many chinks and muslims in the world, what is
your proposal for their control? >> Stay informed about: PETA PROBLEM |
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Sat Jul 03, 2004 6:35 pm
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On Sat, 3 Jul 2004 17:22:18 +0000 (UTC), "Ray" <ray RemoveThis @syntex.com> wrote:
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><dh_ld RemoveThis @nomail.com> wrote in message
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>> On Fri, 2 Jul 2004 18:15:28 +0000 (UTC), "Ray" <ray RemoveThis @syntex.com> wrote:
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>> >
><snip>
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>> >What leads you to make the statement that ARAs promote the elimination of
>> >domestic animals?
>>
>> They do.
>>
>> >Nothing could be further from the truth.
>>
>> How could people keep domestic animals, if animals are given
>> the right of freedom?
>
>My animals are free, they come and go at their leasure.
That's the exception. Dogs can't do that in most areas,
probably including yours, so I'm guessing all you have is
some cats.
>> >Also, I am a little uncertain about your 'Elimination of human wildlife
>> >population management' ? What do you mean?
>>
>> They would put an end to killing animals in order to manage
>> the size of their population.
>
>You mean Ward Clark style?
>
>Rightly so.
My point is made.
>What gives you the right to manage the animal population?
My point is made.
>Remember you, like
>all humans are an animal!
>Nature takes care of itself.
Humans are part of nature.
>Without doubt, there are too many chinks and muslims in the world,
That's your oppinion.
>what is
>your proposal for their control?
> >> Stay informed about: PETA PROBLEM |
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2004 4:37 pm
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Ray wrote:
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> <dh_ld RemoveThis @nomail.com> wrote in message
> news:7ckce0d58dg842b3d8g9gu7ug4u8lefiab@4ax.com...
>> On Fri, 2 Jul 2004 18:15:28 +0000 (UTC), "Ray" <ray RemoveThis @syntex.com> wrote:
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>> >
> <snip>
>> >
>> >What leads you to make the statement that ARAs promote the elimination
>> >of domestic animals?
>>
>> They do.
>>
>> >Nothing could be further from the truth.
>>
>> How could people keep domestic animals, if animals are given
>> the right of freedom?
>
> My animals are free, they come and go at their leasure.
>>
>> >Also, I am a little uncertain about your 'Elimination of human wildlife
>> >population management' ? What do you mean?
>>
>> They would put an end to killing animals in order to manage
>> the size of their population.
>
> You mean Ward Clark style?
>
> Rightly so.
>
> What gives you the right to manage the animal population? Remember you,
> like all humans are an animal!
> Nature takes care of itself.
>
> Without doubt, there are too many chinks and muslims in the world, what is
> your proposal for their control?
The fact we have the guns, they dont dumbass. What gives you and your hippie
brethren the right to try and deny the omnivorous roots of your kind? Noby
gave you that right cuz you hippy pinkos dont have it. >> Stay informed about: PETA PROBLEM |
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