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Jim Wilkerson

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Since: Feb 27, 2005
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2005 9:44 pm
Post subject: Oranda Problem
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My oranda started acting a bit listless a little over a week ago. He
would just sit in the plants, didnt appear to be having any terrible
breathing probs or such. He would come right out at feeding time
though and be pretty much normally active until real late in the
evening to morning.

After about 2 days of this, I noticed what appears to be maybe a
possible inflamation in his gills, although there does not appear to
be any external swelling. No stuck out scales. A slight spot of
cloudy in his eyes (clear eyes=no probs usually for him).

I begag a treatment of Maracyn 2, and added Copper Safe as well. I
have just finished the first Maracyn 2 cycle, and he does appear to be
more active now although in the afternoon he is sitting in the plants
again. I am certain he will come out at feeeding time again.

Diet is peas 1 to 2 times a week, brine shrimp 2 to 3 times a week,
tubifex worms 1 - 2 times a week, and the standard goldfish food the
rest of the time.

Water chem is PH=7.0, Nitrates= about 40 (although I sometimes wonder
about these tests...) 55Gal tank, 20 gal water change on 9/4/05. I
have added salt to the water as I always have for years, the standard
1 tbls per 5 gal.

On 8/4/05 I added a CO2 bottle which consists of a 2 liter sode bottle
with the sugar and yeast mix to produce the CO2 through an airstone.
That get serviced about every 2 to 3 weeks.

Question now is, should I go thru another Maracyn cycle, water change,
salt bath (not sure exaclty what that is, but I saw it referenced), or
somethig else?

Thanks,

Jim

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Jim Wilkerson

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2005 10:30 pm
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Is there anyone out here? Can someone please either help or at least
direct me to someone who will respond?

Desperate,

Jim

On Sun, 2 Oct 2005 21:44:41 UTC, "Jim Wilkerson"
<wilkerj RemoveThis @attglobal.net> wrote:

> My oranda started acting a bit listless a little over a week ago. He
> would just sit in the plants, didnt appear to be having any terrible
> breathing probs or such. He would come right out at feeding time
> though and be pretty much normally active until real late in the
> evening to morning.
>
> After about 2 days of this, I noticed what appears to be maybe a
> possible inflamation in his gills, although there does not appear to
> be any external swelling. No stuck out scales. A slight spot of
> cloudy in his eyes (clear eyes=no probs usually for him).
>
> I begag a treatment of Maracyn 2, and added Copper Safe as well. I
> have just finished the first Maracyn 2 cycle, and he does appear to be
> more active now although in the afternoon he is sitting in the plants
> again. I am certain he will come out at feeeding time again.
>
> Diet is peas 1 to 2 times a week, brine shrimp 2 to 3 times a week,
> tubifex worms 1 - 2 times a week, and the standard goldfish food the
> rest of the time.
>
> Water chem is PH=7.0, Nitrates= about 40 (although I sometimes wonder
> about these tests...) 55Gal tank, 20 gal water change on 9/4/05. I
> have added salt to the water as I always have for years, the standard
> 1 tbls per 5 gal.
>
> On 8/4/05 I added a CO2 bottle which consists of a 2 liter sode bottle
> with the sugar and yeast mix to produce the CO2 through an airstone.
> That get serviced about every 2 to 3 weeks.
>
> Question now is, should I go thru another Maracyn cycle, water change,
> salt bath (not sure exaclty what that is, but I saw it referenced), or
> somethig else?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jim
>


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Jim Wilkerson

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Since: Feb 27, 2005
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 12:07 am
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Thanks for your response. I did a bit more research on the web site
that you sugessted and posted all my results in the post below.

Thanks again.


On Wed, 5 Oct 2005 00:13:13 UTC, "Reel Mckoi" <Reel DeleteThis @McKoi.Com> wrote:

>
> "Jim Wilkerson" <wilkerj DeleteThis @attglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:RFFxzJm83E64-pn2-wtGQi04dYvVr@localhost...
> > Is there anyone out here? Can someone please either help or at least
> > direct me to someone who will respond?
> ============
> Jim, sometimes there is no way to help a person with their fish. What you
> describe can be so many things it's unreal. I've seen listlessness from
> everything from parasites to high nitrates, from paint fumes in the air to
> an exterminator's visit. How can anyone possibly know? Have you checked
> www.koivet.com? I believe Ingrid/Solo also runs a site describing disease
> and health issues with goldfish. I wish I could be of more help but .......


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l.nave

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 8:01 pm
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Orandas are a stickler for water quality....after spending money on
many additives it seems the best thing to do is dechlor(Prime) water
changes with a good healthy water filter(I use two types-under gravel
and Emperor 280),,,good aeration(use two types).....and salt when
changing gravel(I understand that salt works when it is going up and
down in concentration fastly...not a constant amount as many things
become resistant to it)....also my pond Orandas handle more extremes
than the aquarium Orandas....I use shelled frozen peas, frozen brine
shrimp and ProGold sinking food and Wardley's sinking shrimp pellets at
various times. Water is about 80 degrees in the aquarium and 65 degrees
in the pond-
Larry
Carmichael/Sacramento
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Navy Diver

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Since: Oct 21, 2005
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2005 11:48 am
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you have a beautiful web site and gorgeous tanks and ponds. Your fish
look really healthy :)
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