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HOWEDY sinofabitch,

"Sionnach" <rhyfelwr.RemoveThis@msn.com> wrote in message
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> <flabeare.RemoveThis@ec.rr.com> wrote: in message
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> > (Not aggressive breeds, I don't believe there is any BREED that is
> > aggressive, just individual dogs..)

> A sidestep from the topic, BUT- with all due respect,

Respect? What respect? You're a liar and a dog abuser.

> I think you're dead wrong. There ARE breeds that have
> been selectively bred to have aggressive tendencies either
> towards humans or towards other dogs- the two forms of
> aggression are quite different, and not really related to each
> other- and to deny that is to court trouble.

A dog is a dog, sinofabitch.

> I've had FAR too many problems with Pit Bulls

You can't blame the dog. All dog behavior problems
are caused by mishandling.

> whose owners are in denial

You deny your own written words.

> about the fact that Pits were BRED to fight and kill other dogs,

Irrelevant. Dog fighting is allowed or caused by mishandling.

> and consequently put my dogs at risk by letting their dogs
> off-leash near them.

You get all freaked out because you're a natural born coward
and instigate the dogs trying to force control and intimidate them.

> >I asked the lady if she did any research on
> > this dog and she said she had read they were "gentle giants"

> UH-oh!!! That is WAAAAAY off base.

Probably so. But the OP's description leads me to
believe they've got a Neopolitan. But a dog is still a dog.

> The Cane Corso is WELL known for
> having aggressive tendencies towards strangers- IIRC,
> it's actually something they've been selectively bred for-

According to the salesman.

> and for needing expert handling from day one.

INDEED. All dogs deserve that. Wouldn't you agree, sinofabitch?

After all, ain't that HOWE COME we're all here?

> > I asked the lady if she had talked to the breeder about the parents
> > or asked for any information on the breed she said she hadn't.

EZ come EZ go.

> Christ. SHAME on the breeder!! This breed is one where
> the breeder should, even more than usual, be interrogating
> prospective puppy buyers and making sure that they understand
> what to expect.

You mean like getting decapitated if they try alphalpha rolling
one of them?

> The fact that s/he sold a pup to someone who sounds like
> she's not equipped to handle the breed,

Like you are.

> and did NOT educate her as to what they can be like,

You mean if they're mishandled.

> tells me that the breeder is far from responsible.

Indeedy. They probably don't have enough experience
to see CANIBALISM like our pal lying frosty dahl has.

> You've already been given some good links to info on the breed,

You mean the salesmen.

> so I won't duplicate anything but a recommendation to
> refer these people to a behaviourist who is good with
> aggressive dogs.

HOWE about the very best in the whole wide world, sinofabitch?


"Jeff ®(¤§¤)®" <pitsaregreatREMOVE¤THIS@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> "Robert Andre Hughes" <ingen.RemoveThis@virus.no> wrote in message
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> > "MissY" <LiQuId-CoUrAgE.RemoveThis@webtv.net> wrote in message
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> > > The suggestions were great,

Yeah, we got "experts" here.

> > > and now that I see most of you all agree on
> > > the "biting back" method,

They also agree with killing dogs when hurting them to train them
doesn't work.

> > > I don't feel so bad about trying it out.

Fine by me. Ever hear of allelomimetic behavior? That means you teach
the dog what you like done to you. Same pretty much as that old saw
"what's good for the goose is good for the gander." Let's hope you've
got such a good understanding of the method you're planning to use when
your puppy turns around and bites your goddamned nose off. That'd be
quid pro quo, according to the scientific laws of allelomimetic
behavior. Tit for tat, fair play.

Just figger I'd tell you so's you'd be FAIR.

> > > My Fiance has tried that, he grabs her by the scruff of he neck and
> > > shakes gently....

Oh. He must have learned that from professor lying doc "scruff shake"
dermer.

> > > she growls even more when we do this!!!!

Right, that's allelomimetic behavior kicking in. The puppy will do that
to you when you fall down some day and show your weakness. Good LUCK.

> > > Then we have tried nipping her in the ear or back leg as mom would
> > > when she bites us....this hasn't worked yet!!!!

Well in the koehler book it says to hang the dog for that. There's five
different ways of hanging in the book. Ask any of our dog lovers here,
they'll recommend their favorite methods of hanging dogs.

> > > LoL....We are completely up in the air on what to do.

Sounds like you've read ahead. You'll need to make a hitch on the
ceiling or hang your puppy over a door or a heafty tree limb.

> > > She is starting to growl at us more and more now,

Yes, that's allelomimetic behavior, you're teaching her HOWE you like to
be treated when you get frustrated. That's a good lesson to learn.
You're on a good start so far as I see it.

> > > And Charging After My Chihuahua

Yes, that's the most common cause of sibling dog and child aggression.
That's why I'm DEATH on the lying dog abusing Thugs who've taught you
these are appropriate ways to handle and train your dog.

> > > and actually getting her whole body on top of him.

She'll kill him if you keep mishandling and abusing your puppy according
to the advice of our dog killers here. They hate and fear dogs, that's
why they love dog aggressive dogs yet kill a pb the first instance they
growl at their abusive human. These folks are dangerous cowards. They
need to intimidate dogs to make themselves feel adequate, they're
compensating for their fragile egos and weak minds.

> > > He cowers and does his best to defend himself by snapping at
her....

Our experts LIKE a dog aggressive dog. The methods you've been handling
your dog GUARANTEE it.

> > > thing is...i'm afraid Ginger will snap back someday and hurt him.

She's dead meat either way you cut it unless you figure out a better way
of handling and training your dog. I've got a comprehensive FREE
training manual, but our experts will advice against it and tell you I'm
a liar and con man, but that's what I'd expect from a dog abusing lying
Thug when I blow the whistle on them, wouldn't you figure?

> > > We ended up taking her for the free consultation w/ a trainer and he
> > > quoted us $291.00 for a six week course.....

Yeah, that's because you've been following the same instructions your
"trainer" is going to give you. And you'll get moore of the same and be
out a few hundred bucks and probably still have to kill your dog. That's
why I came into these groups to begin with, to identify, expose, and
discredit our Thugs who've brought you to this miserable state of
affairs.

> > > we do not have money for this as crucial as it is
> > > to get her training NOW!!!

That's why I've got the FREE Wits' End Dog Training Method manual for
you. Take it and run like HEEL from these vicious cretins who'll teach
you HOWE to make your dog vicious and to kill him.

> > > The vet I work for, has meds for hyper activeness....this also costs
> > > more than we can afford right now.

Forget about it. The methods your training him by are causing the
problem, it's not the dog.

> > > But I will check out the web sites you suggested and hope that
something
> > > there will work.

You think you'll find anything of value here or from any of the
"resources" our lying dog abusing Thugs recommend? That's a sure sign
there's no value to the books or sites they're suggesting.

> > > One question....

You're a slow learner, aren't you?

> > > Do you all think I would be wrong to turn her over to
> > > a no-kill shelter or pit rescue?

Just read my manual and ask me questions if you need any help with it.
Your dog will be good as new in a couple of days if you follow the
exercises taught there...

> > > I think she will get the help she needs (training) and
> > > then she can be adopted out to a more suitable home
> > > than we can give her right now.

Our "experts" LIKE that too. It makes them feel superior, and that's
important to our Thugs, they're insecure, that's why they show their
power through abusing their dogs.

> > The more aggressive she gets at you, more I think you should keep
telling
> > the pup it does not help.

Fight the dog till it's either you or him... good plan. That's HOWE COME
you bums KILL dogs, because you can't make your dog want to do
everything you ask if you're abusing him for BONDING. That's what they
do with their mouthing and jumping on us, they're trying to be friends,
and you try to HURT them for it. Brilliant.

> > If she growls at you and you don't make her realize it is wrong right
> > away, she will find out she is in charge.

Yeah, afraid of a puppy taking control from you. No wonder you kill
dogs.

> > She must realize what place she has in the pack.

Yeah, beat the dog down so she'll respect you.

> Yep, absolutely true.

Yep. That's why you got to smarten up or get the heel outta here.

> Jeff
> > > Please answer honestly.

Watch this...

> > > Thanks,

Better skedaddle and read my manual, you won't learn handling your dog
from the mistakes I'll be pointing out in the following posts. Just ask
if you need help with the manual.

> > > Missy

Go!

> > Robert

And you, stick around for a minit:

Hello Megan,

"Megan" <dorklover466.RemoveThis@aol.com.tubbie> wrote in message
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> My boyfriend wrote to this group about the same thing but he had
> some of the info wrong

Oh? Not as I saw it. I responded quite clearly to your initial thread
and regard responding to this post as usurping my generosity. Don't
let it happen again, or I'll not be eager to offer you my help, and since
there ain't no other help here, I suggest you take a lesson from the
other posters like steve walker, Robert Crim, and tara, who is going to
kill her dog Summer this week for the same problems you're having...