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Ajanta

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue May 24, 2005 8:11 pm
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We have sort of "adopted" a cat that visits us once or twice a day. I
wouldn't mind keeping her but she is a free spirit and I think
confinement would be a torture for her now.

Her behavior is quite aristocratic: For example one of her visits is in
the late aftrenoon. She suns on the porch, then waits by the door and
wants to come in as soon as she sees us. She likes to lie on various
carpets, sit in a few of her favorite spots, be petted, watch TV for a
while (she really likes TV!), have some food and then she definitely
wants to leave and move on! She quietly sits by the door once again,
this time to be let out. She likes to spend about 2 hours with us.

She never misbehaves, never pees inside. She never begs for food, never
jumps at food even if she is very hungry and seems to prefer to eat
alone when no one is watching. (Typically, when I place the food, she
checks it out, has a bite or two at most, but then gets busy with other
life. She prefers to eat later when we are at the other end of the
house. Any explanation?)

We know nothing about cat foods. So far I have bought a dry bag and
occasional cans from Target, Walgreens etc. A little bit of web surfing
tells me such foods are likely to be "unhealthy junk foods", with meat
by-produts, grains etc dominating. I have a few basic question for the
experts:

1. Is dry food better or wet food, or some kind of rotation?

2. We can't afford to go too premium but also don't want to feed her
junk food that's bad for her. Are there any "best value" brands to look
for? What kind of stores are best?

3. If she doesn't finish the food, can the left-overs remain in the
bowl to be eaten later, or should they be discarded?

4. In case of canned food, if we don't use the entire can, can the
unused portion be refrigerated and used next day? Should it be given
cold, or microwaved?

5. Do cats like to eat at a definite spot, from a fixed bowl, etc?

As you can see, we know nothing. All pointers would be greatly
appreciated.

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Victor Martinez

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue May 24, 2005 8:50 pm
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Ajanta wrote:
> 1. Is dry food better or wet food, or some kind of rotation?

Wet food is *always* better than dry food. Cats are carnivores, there is
no reason to feed them corn or rice. Read the ingredients list and judge
for yourself. :)

> 2. We can't afford to go too premium but also don't want to feed her
> junk food that's bad for her. Are there any "best value" brands to look
> for? What kind of stores are best?

You will find the lowest prices at the big chain stores (Petsmart,
Petco). From the brands sold there, the best is Nutro. Look for stuff
without by-products and with meats at the top of the ingredients list.
If a grain is one of the top 3 ingredients, don't buy it.

> 3. If she doesn't finish the food, can the left-overs remain in the
> bowl to be eaten later, or should they be discarded?

Canned food will go bad eventually, it depends on the weather. :) I feed
my crew canned food twice a day, if there are any leftovers by the time
of the next feeding, I toss them.

> 4. In case of canned food, if we don't use the entire can, can the
> unused portion be refrigerated and used next day? Should it be given
> cold, or microwaved?

Most cats prefer their food at room or body temperature, but some will
eat it cold. If she won't eat it cold, try warming it a bit by taking it
out a couple of hours before feeding. I would avoid the microwave, since
it produces very uneven results (some parts of the food will be too hot,
some cold).

> 5. Do cats like to eat at a definite spot, from a fixed bowl, etc?

Yes, cats are routine loving critters and most prefer to eat on the same
spot every day. Avoid plastic dishes, metal and ceramic are best.
Instead of buying overpriced cat bowls, buy regular people dessert
plates at Target, they're cheaper.

> As you can see, we know nothing. All pointers would be greatly
> appreciated.

It's great that you've decided to adopt a cat. They are wonderful
companions. Please do keep coming with questions and comments, we're
here to help.


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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue May 24, 2005 8:50 pm
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Victor has said it all. Good advice!

S.

"Victor Martinez" <me.RemoveThis@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> Ajanta wrote:
>> 1. Is dry food better or wet food, or some kind of rotation?
>
> Wet food is *always* better than dry food. Cats are carnivores, there is
> no reason to feed them corn or rice. Read the ingredients list and judge
> for yourself. :)
>
>> 2. We can't afford to go too premium but also don't want to feed her
>> junk food that's bad for her. Are there any "best value" brands to look
>> for? What kind of stores are best?
>
> You will find the lowest prices at the big chain stores (Petsmart, Petco).
> From the brands sold there, the best is Nutro. Look for stuff without
> by-products and with meats at the top of the ingredients list. If a grain
> is one of the top 3 ingredients, don't buy it.
>
>> 3. If she doesn't finish the food, can the left-overs remain in the
>> bowl to be eaten later, or should they be discarded?
>
> Canned food will go bad eventually, it depends on the weather. :) I feed
> my crew canned food twice a day, if there are any leftovers by the time of
> the next feeding, I toss them.
>
>> 4. In case of canned food, if we don't use the entire can, can the
>> unused portion be refrigerated and used next day? Should it be given
>> cold, or microwaved?
>
> Most cats prefer their food at room or body temperature, but some will eat
> it cold. If she won't eat it cold, try warming it a bit by taking it out a
> couple of hours before feeding. I would avoid the microwave, since it
> produces very uneven results (some parts of the food will be too hot, some
> cold).
>
>> 5. Do cats like to eat at a definite spot, from a fixed bowl, etc?
>
> Yes, cats are routine loving critters and most prefer to eat on the same
> spot every day. Avoid plastic dishes, metal and ceramic are best. Instead
> of buying overpriced cat bowls, buy regular people dessert plates at
> Target, they're cheaper.
>
>> As you can see, we know nothing. All pointers would be greatly
>> appreciated.
>
> It's great that you've decided to adopt a cat. They are wonderful
> companions. Please do keep coming with questions and comments, we're here
> to help.
>
>
> --
> Victor M. Martinez
> Owned and operated by the Fantastic Seven (TM)
> Send your spam here: uce.RemoveThis@ftc.gov
> Email me here: pistorLITTER.RemoveThis@BOXaustin.rr.com
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue May 24, 2005 10:58 pm
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On Tue, 24 May 2005 20:11:25 GMT, Ajanta <ajanta.DeleteThis@null.void> wrote:

>We have sort of "adopted" a cat that visits us once or twice a day. I
>wouldn't mind keeping her but she is a free spirit and I think
>confinement would be a torture for her now.
>

It would not be "torture." In fact, she would probably appreciate the
security. My used to be in/outdoor cats, but when I moved, my house
location made this impossible (traffic). They've adjusted nicely to
being indoor only, and I feel a lot better because I know they will be
safe from HBC, slit ears from fights, etc.

>Her behavior is quite aristocratic: For example one of her visits is in
>the late aftrenoon. She suns on the porch, then waits by the door and
>wants to come in as soon as she sees us. She likes to lie on various
>carpets, sit in a few of her favorite spots, be petted, watch TV for a
>while (she really likes TV!), have some food and then she definitely
>wants to leave and move on! She quietly sits by the door once again,
>this time to be let out. She likes to spend about 2 hours with us.

Some catnip toys and a litterbox might change her mind. Not to mention
lots of pets for attention when she will permit.

>She never misbehaves, never pees inside. She never begs for food, never
>jumps at food even if she is very hungry and seems to prefer to eat
>alone when no one is watching. (Typically, when I place the food, she
>checks it out, has a bite or two at most, but then gets busy with other
>life. She prefers to eat later when we are at the other end of the
>house. Any explanation?)

Not for the eating alone. Who knows? Typical cat! She sounds lovely.

>We know nothing about cat foods. So far I have bought a dry bag and
>occasional cans from Target, Walgreens etc. A little bit of web surfing
>tells me such foods are likely to be "unhealthy junk foods", with meat
>by-produts, grains etc dominating. I have a few basic question for the
>experts:
>
>1. Is dry food better or wet food, or some kind of rotation?

Mine get dry M-F with a can of albacore in water (they will not eat it
in oil) on the weekends. I buy 25-lb bags and rotate the
brands/flavors. I think they'd get bored if they had to eat the same
thing all the time.

>2. We can't afford to go too premium but also don't want to feed her
>junk food that's bad for her. Are there any "best value" brands to look
>for? What kind of stores are best?

I watch the grocery ads and when I see a brand I trust on sale, I'll
go get a bag of it. I'm sure I'll use up my inventory sooner or later.

>3. If she doesn't finish the food, can the left-overs remain in the
>bowl to be eaten later, or should they be discarded?

If dry, I'd say yes (this rarely happens at my place). If wet, I'd
cover with plastic wrap and a rubber band and refrigerate.
>
>4. In case of canned food, if we don't use the entire can, can the
>unused portion be refrigerated and used next day? Should it be given
>cold, or microwaved?

Yes, it can be served the next day. Cover it, refrigerate, and remove
from the fridge a few hours before you plan to serve so it can get
ambient.

>5. Do cats like to eat at a definite spot, from a fixed bowl, etc?

They insist on it.
>
>As you can see, we know nothing. All pointers would be greatly
>appreciated.

One more thing: you don't own the cat--the cat owns you! How sweet it
is!

Good luck with your new kitty!
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed May 25, 2005 6:24 am
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:
: >She never misbehaves, never pees inside. She never begs for food, never
: >jumps at food even if she is very hungry and seems to prefer to eat
: >alone when no one is watching. (Typically, when I place the food, she
: >checks it out, has a bite or two at most, but then gets busy with other
: >life. She prefers to eat later when we are at the other end of the
: >house. Any explanation?)
:
: Not for the eating alone. Who knows? Typical cat! She sounds lovely.

She wants to eat alone because then she feels safe.

: >3. If she doesn't finish the food, can the left-overs remain in the
: >bowl to be eaten later, or should they be discarded?
:
: If dry, I'd say yes (this rarely happens at my place). If wet, I'd
: cover with plastic wrap and a rubber band and refrigerate.

I believe dry food keeps fine for about 24 hours.

We had a cat like that, it turned out that he visited about 4 homes like
that per day ...
He walked out on his owners because they got a young cat he didn't like.

Carola
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Wed May 25, 2005 8:18 pm
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"Victor Martinez" <me DeleteThis @nospam.com> wrote in message
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>
>> 5. Do cats like to eat at a definite spot, from a fixed bowl, etc?
>
> Yes, cats are routine loving critters and most prefer to eat on the same
> spot every day. Avoid plastic dishes, metal and ceramic are best. Instead
> of buying overpriced cat bowls, buy regular people dessert plates at
> Target, they're cheaper.

I bought a glass dish wide enough to accomodate a cat's whiskers at
Dollar store for $1. I think glass should be OK too, right?


Winnie

> It's great that you've decided to adopt a cat. They are wonderful
> companions. Please do keep coming with questions and comments, we're here
> to help.
>
>
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Thu May 26, 2005 5:18 am
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Thank you for your detailed advice. I went to Petsmart and bought an
assortment of Nutro, IAMS, and Science Diet cans to give them a try.

(I am glad that thanks to all the good advice I received I avoided what
I would have been most likely to buy otherwise: 24-can packs of Whiskas
or Friskies!)

I spent a lot of time reading labels. Must say I was concerned that
even premium food had by-products and corn/rice listed among
ingredients, like cheaper brands. Maybe it ia a matter of percentage?

Another customer who was there said she buys premium food but likes
to economize by mixing dry food with wet. Does this seem like a good
idea to people here ? (She uses 1 Tbsp wet with 1/2 cup dry.)

Thanks again for all the help.

A.

: > 1. Is dry food better or wet food, or some kind of rotation?
:
: Wet food is *always* better than dry food. Cats are carnivores, there is
: no reason to feed them corn or rice. Read the ingredients list and judge
: for yourself. :)
:
: > 2. We can't afford to go too premium but also don't want to feed her
: > junk food that's bad for her. Are there any "best value" brands to look
: > for? What kind of stores are best?
:
: You will find the lowest prices at the big chain stores (Petsmart,
: Petco). From the brands sold there, the best is Nutro. Look for stuff
: without by-products and with meats at the top of the ingredients list.
: If a grain is one of the top 3 ingredients, don't buy it.
:
: > 3. If she doesn't finish the food, can the left-overs remain in the
: > bowl to be eaten later, or should they be discarded?
:
: Canned food will go bad eventually, it depends on the weather. :) I feed
: my crew canned food twice a day, if there are any leftovers by the time
: of the next feeding, I toss them.
:
: > 4. In case of canned food, if we don't use the entire can, can the
: > unused portion be refrigerated and used next day? Should it be given
: > cold, or microwaved?
:
: Most cats prefer their food at room or body temperature, but some will
: eat it cold. If she won't eat it cold, try warming it a bit by taking it
: out a couple of hours before feeding. I would avoid the microwave, since
: it produces very uneven results (some parts of the food will be too hot,
: some cold).
:
: > 5. Do cats like to eat at a definite spot, from a fixed bowl, etc?
:
: Yes, cats are routine loving critters and most prefer to eat on the same
: spot every day. Avoid plastic dishes, metal and ceramic are best.
: Instead of buying overpriced cat bowls, buy regular people dessert
: plates at Target, they're cheaper.
:
: > As you can see, we know nothing. All pointers would be greatly
: > appreciated.
:
: It's great that you've decided to adopt a cat. They are wonderful
: companions. Please do keep coming with questions and comments, we're
: here to help.
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Thu May 26, 2005 5:23 am
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<wester RemoveThis @laway.net> wrote:

: Mine get dry M-F with a can of albacore in water (they will not eat it
: in oil) on the weekends.

Thank you for all the great advice. As I wrote in another post, I went
to Petsmart and came home with a small assortment of Nutro, IAMS, and
Scientific Diet cans. Still have the old dry food.

I will sound as ignorant as I am, but what is albacore? :-)
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Thu May 26, 2005 11:45 am
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Ajanta wrote:
> I spent a lot of time reading labels. Must say I was concerned that
> even premium food had by-products and corn/rice listed among
> ingredients, like cheaper brands. Maybe it ia a matter of percentage?

Yes. Some people aren't concerned about by-products and some people say
not all by-products are created equal. If I could get my cats to eat
only Innova and Felidae, I'd be happy. But they seem to like by-products
for some reason. The Nutro line does not have by-products, so I try to
feed them as much as possible about them. I also avoid corn, since it's
a known allergen for cats.

> Another customer who was there said she buys premium food but likes
> to economize by mixing dry food with wet. Does this seem like a good
> idea to people here ? (She uses 1 Tbsp wet with 1/2 cup dry.)

I give them dry food to snack on between meals. Some of our cats prefer
dry food, but I try to make them eat canned food (it's good for you, eat
it!) as much as possible.

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(Msg. 10) Posted: Thu May 26, 2005 12:15 pm
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Ajanta wrote:
> <wester.RemoveThis@laway.net> wrote:
>
>> Mine get dry M-F with a can of albacore in water (they will not eat
>> it in oil) on the weekends.
>
> Thank you for all the great advice. As I wrote in another post, I went
> to Petsmart and came home with a small assortment of Nutro, IAMS, and
> Scientific Diet cans. Still have the old dry food.
>
> I will sound as ignorant as I am, but what is albacore? :-)

A species of tuna.

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(Msg. 11) Posted: Thu May 26, 2005 10:02 pm
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On Thu, 26 May 2005 05:23:56 GMT, Ajanta <ajanta.RemoveThis@null.void> wrote:

> <wester.RemoveThis@laway.net> wrote:
>
>: Mine get dry M-F with a can of albacore in water (they will not eat it
>: in oil) on the weekends.
>
>Thank you for all the great advice. As I wrote in another post, I went
>to Petsmart and came home with a small assortment of Nutro, IAMS, and
>Scientific Diet cans. Still have the old dry food.
>
>I will sound as ignorant as I am, but what is albacore? :-)

Albacore is the finest tuna. Pure white chunks, not your average
"regular" tuna. I pamper my kitties. Or else they will attack me in
the night and scrape my face and kneecaps off.
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Fri May 27, 2005 1:22 am
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Ajanta wrote:
> We have sort of "adopted" a cat that visits us once or twice a day. I
> wouldn't mind keeping her but she is a free spirit and I think
> confinement would be a torture for her now.

Canned Friskie's. Get her spayed.

-L.
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