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Sal

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2003 5:04 am
Post subject: Mouse Mites (Liponyssoides sanguineus) We're infested
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This weekend I got my glasses out of my bedroom and put them on my face,
the next minute my face was itching uncontrollably and I took my glasses
off and looked at them closely and there were maybe 100 little tiny
almost invisible white things moving about on the glasses. I took a very
hot shower called my doctor in a panic and he said they were probably
dust mites or spider mites, to just vacuum my room and wash the bedding
and any clothing that was on the floor with hot water, which I did.

A little while ago I went to bed, my alarm clock is next to my bed, I
lifted it to set it and they were crawling all over the clock, again they
are so small you almost can't see them, but my clock is black so thank
god I did notice, because I then looked at my pillow and bedding closely
and they were all over my pillow, which my head had just been on.

I started searching google for info about mites, and came across the
subject of a different mite, the mouse mite, and they say that they
become a problem in a household after the host/mouse dies. My mouse
recently died a few days ago. So now I'm thinking this is what they must
have come from, I can't otherwise imagine a sudden explosion of dust
mites in my home, the coinciding of these mites and the death of my mouse
rings true for me.

I am wondering if anyone else has experienced mouse mites and what they
did about it. Would my other pets, a dog and a cat, most likely have
these on their bodies now too? Obviously I'll need to call the vet
tomorrow, I wonder if I should have them treated as a precaution. I am
afraid of my house and how I can eradicate these mites, I have children
as well I am concerned for. Anyway, if any of you fellow mouse owners
have any info on this thanks so much, apparantly washing everything
didn't fix this.

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2003 6:09 am
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We haven't experienced mouse mites that rampant before... seen them on a few
of our mice, but they were easily killed, and taken care of. Let us know
what your vet tells you though... this is very interesting but unfortunate
for you.

Kathy
<Sal.TakeThisOut@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> This weekend I got my glasses out of my bedroom and put them on my face,
> the next minute my face was itching uncontrollably and I took my glasses
> off and looked at them closely and there were maybe 100 little tiny
> almost invisible white things moving about on the glasses. I took a very
> hot shower called my doctor in a panic and he said they were probably
> dust mites or spider mites, to just vacuum my room and wash the bedding
> and any clothing that was on the floor with hot water, which I did.
>
> A little while ago I went to bed, my alarm clock is next to my bed, I
> lifted it to set it and they were crawling all over the clock, again they
> are so small you almost can't see them, but my clock is black so thank
> god I did notice, because I then looked at my pillow and bedding closely
> and they were all over my pillow, which my head had just been on.
>
> I started searching google for info about mites, and came across the
> subject of a different mite, the mouse mite, and they say that they
> become a problem in a household after the host/mouse dies. My mouse
> recently died a few days ago. So now I'm thinking this is what they must
> have come from, I can't otherwise imagine a sudden explosion of dust
> mites in my home, the coinciding of these mites and the death of my mouse
> rings true for me.
>
> I am wondering if anyone else has experienced mouse mites and what they
> did about it. Would my other pets, a dog and a cat, most likely have
> these on their bodies now too? Obviously I'll need to call the vet
> tomorrow, I wonder if I should have them treated as a precaution. I am
> afraid of my house and how I can eradicate these mites, I have children
> as well I am concerned for. Anyway, if any of you fellow mouse owners
> have any info on this thanks so much, apparantly washing everything
> didn't fix this.

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Flykiller

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2003 7:40 am
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>I am wondering if anyone else has experienced mouse mites and what they
>did about it.

I've had up to 48 mice at one time, and I've never seen anything like what you
describe.

most parasites are very host-specific, meaning when their host dies then they
die unless they can find another same-species animal. given the size of your
invasion I would suggest you have something that lives on people. call around
to find a doctor who knows about these things and bring him a few samples of
your creatures, and see what he says. he should be able to pop them under a
magnifying glass or microscope and tell you right away.
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through me." john 14:6
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Sal

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2003 5:29 pm
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I assumed they were the mice mites since they all suddenly appeared right
after the death of my mouse and I had never seen any before that, but if
it's very unusual to have such a number like I do then I'll keep
researching, maybe spider mites indeed? What I did today was bought the
Hot Spot Pest Strip that contains dichlorvos. I read that that is
generally good for killing mites, so hopefully it will kill these mites
too regardless of what they are. It's such potent stuff though that I've
hung it up and had to close off that bedroom indefinitely though. Good
lord this is a horrible situation here. Thanks for your info.

In article <20030728034000.23869.00000668.DeleteThis@mb-m27.aol.com>,
flykiller.DeleteThis@aol.com.com says...
> >I am wondering if anyone else has experienced mouse mites and what they
> >did about it.
>
> I've had up to 48 mice at one time, and I've never seen anything like what you
> describe.
>
> most parasites are very host-specific, meaning when their host dies then they
> die unless they can find another same-species animal. given the size of your
> invasion I would suggest you have something that lives on people. call around
> to find a doctor who knows about these things and bring him a few samples of
> your creatures, and see what he says. he should be able to pop them under a
> magnifying glass or microscope and tell you right away.
>
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Don Fitch

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2003 5:15 am
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In Message-id: <20030728034000.23869.00000668.TakeThisOut@mb-m27.aol.com>,
on 28 July '03, Flykiller (flykiller@aol.com.com) wrote:

<snip>
>most parasites are very host-specific, [...] I would suggest
>you have something that lives on people. call around to
>find a doctor who knows about these things and bring him
>a few samples of your creatures, and see what he says. he
>should be able to pop them under a magnifying glass or
>microscope and tell you right away.

For a substantial fee, most likely, in countries that don't
have a decent Public Health System. *sigh* On the other
hand, most miticides appear to be broad-spectrum, so
knowing the precise species might not be absolutely
necessary.

It's certainly correct that most parasites are host-specific,
but a few are equal-opportunity employers --including one
around here (Southern California) that seems to start on
trees (including the Ash overhanging the open porch where
my (c. 20) mouse-cages are), then attack mice, chickens,
and people, indiscriminately. (Possibly dogs & cats as well,
but I don't have a dog, and the neighborhood cat that
spends so much time watching my mice & chickens isn't
showing any obvious symptoms of infestation.) They also (I
_think_ it's the same species) seem to be able to survive
indefinitely in old lumber, logs, and bark.

On reasonably-healthy, well-fed, non-stressed animals
(including people) they seem to be more of an Irritating
Annoyance than a Serious Problem, but I _do_ hope to find
some way to combat them that doesn't involve the use of
pesticides that have serious potential side-effects.

So far, the only semi-control I've found to be effective is to
treat the new bedding-material (I use pelletized aspen cat-
litter, plus a sprinkling of shredded aspen on top) with a
little flea & tick powder intended for cats (& dogs), and
make a point of replacing the bedding every week or so, but
.... I feel some concern about the side-effects of this. In a
couple of the more-closed cages (deep plastic ones, and
glass fish-tanks, with wire-mesh tops) that don't have the
super-good air circulation of all-hardware-cloth cages, I've
observed a couple of examples of neuro-muscular problems
in litters of young, and even an occasional sudden &
inexplicable death. Not that these are all that unusual, or
numerous enough to be statistically significant, but still... I
do try to avoid using chemical insecticides on cages
containing pregnant or nursing females, more-or-less on
general principles. If there's a miticide that's both really
safe and reasonably effective, I'd sure like to know about it.

[This alt. newsgroup doesn't propagate well by way of aol
and this computer's newsreader -- almost half the messages
posted to this group that appear on my monitor are
responses to things that have never shown up -- so I'd
appreciate it if people who respond to this posting would
also send a copy directly to me (<fitchdons.TakeThisOut@aol.com>).]


Don Fitch

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2003 7:40 pm
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>For a substantial fee, most likely, in countries that don't
>have a decent Public Health System.

<political mode>
oh, the fee is always substantial. countries that don't have substantial
medical fees have substantial taxes. nothing's free.
</political mode>
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through me." john 14:6
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