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chardonnay9 wrote:
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your own).
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elegy wrote:
>
> the drugs are given in
> lower doses so that the dogs don't get the more notorious
> side-effects. some will have some minor nausea (and they make
> medication for that), maybe some appetite loss, but not what i'm
> guessing that you're imaginging.


You think what you described is a typical reaction? Not even close.
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elegy wrote:
> On Fri, 05 Dec 2008 20:39:22 -0500, chardonnay9
> wrote:
>
>> elegy wrote:
>>> the drugs are given in
>>> lower doses so that the dogs don't get the more notorious
>>> side-effects. some will have some minor nausea (and they make
>>> medication for that), maybe some appetite loss, but not what i'm
>>> guessing that you're imaginging.
>>
>> You think what you described is a typical reaction? Not even close.
>
> and how many dogs have you seen go through chemo?

I've seen one, and her reaction was as elegy described - no
nausea, no diarrhea, no loss of appetite, no noticeable changes
in behavior. And this was a dog who had a sensitive digestive
system as a result of parvo at 8 weeks. She'd try to jump up on
the treatment table at the clinic and did not need to be sedated
while the chemo was being administered. And she lived 3.5 years
after the cancer was diagnosed (until she was 11).

Typical? From what I've heard, yeah, her reaction was typical.

To Nitram, the OP: I'm sorry - it's a rough diagnosis. Your
dog's age may be more of a factor in your decision. Get as much
information as you can, and then make up your mind.

FurPaw


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On Sat, 06 Dec 2008 00:08:20 GMT, "Nitram" wrote:

>My golden retriever was just diagnosed with Cutaneous Lymphoma. We're off to
>the oncologist on Tuesday to discuss treatment options.
>
>Chemo appears to only provide short term remission so I'm concerned that our
>11 1/2 year old dog will suffer when taking the drugs and not get much of a
>benefit.
>
>Anyone have any experience with this disease.

My greyhound group had a dog surrendered to us several years ago, who
within a couple of months had surgery for thyroid cancer and then was
diagnosed with lymphoma. Since he hadn't had much of a fun life, we
did fundraisers to cover the cost of chemo. The statistics we got at
that time were that the average survival time was 16-18 months with
chemo. Jack only got a year before he started to be unwell, but it
was a good year - he loved attention, so he didn't mind the vet
visits, and he wasn't sick from the chemo.

Dogs don't have the side effects people have from chemo, because they
are given smaller doses in proportion to their weight. They
consequently have shorter periods of cancer-free time, but it's
generally good quality time.

Oh, and ignore chardonnay. She's truly dangerous.

Mustang Sally
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On Fri, 05 Dec 2008 20:39:22 -0500, chardonnay9
wrote:

>elegy wrote:
>>
>> the drugs are given in
>> lower doses so that the dogs don't get the more notorious
>> side-effects. some will have some minor nausea (and they make
>> medication for that), maybe some appetite loss, but not what i'm
>> guessing that you're imaginging.
>
>
>You think what you described is a typical reaction? Not even close.

How the hell would you know? What elegy describes is, in fact,
typical for dogs.
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sighthounds & siberians wrote:
> On Fri, 05 Dec 2008 20:39:22 -0500, chardonnay9
> wrote:
>
>> elegy wrote:
>>> the drugs are given in
>>> lower doses so that the dogs don't get the more notorious
>>> side-effects. some will have some minor nausea (and they make
>>> medication for that), maybe some appetite loss, but not what i'm
>>> guessing that you're imaginging.
>>
>> You think what you described is a typical reaction? Not even close.
>
> How the hell would you know? What elegy describes is, in fact,
> typical for dogs.
>

Did you know there is absolutely no evidence that chemo helps?
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chardonnay9 wrote:

> Did you know there is absolutely no evidence that chemo helps?

Considering the nature of the "evidence" that you have provided
for your outrageous claims, and considering your lack of
understanding of science, I believe that you actually believe
that statement.

Pity.

FurPaw

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On Sat, 06 Dec 2008 08:31:10 -0500, chardonnay9
wrote:

>sighthounds & siberians wrote:
>> On Fri, 05 Dec 2008 20:39:22 -0500, chardonnay9
>> wrote:
>>
>>> elegy wrote:
>>>> the drugs are given in
>>>> lower doses so that the dogs don't get the more notorious
>>>> side-effects. some will have some minor nausea (and they make
>>>> medication for that), maybe some appetite loss, but not what i'm
>>>> guessing that you're imaginging.
>>>
>>> You think what you described is a typical reaction? Not even close.
>>
>> How the hell would you know? What elegy describes is, in fact,
>> typical for dogs.
>>
>
>Did you know there is absolutely no evidence that chemo helps?

There are idiots who try to tell people with cancer that, too, and
it's really dangerous. Even if there weren't scientific evidence that
you're wrong, I have seen first-hand evidence in both dogs and people.
Just so we're clear, this particular first-hand evidence was in my
house.
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sighthounds & siberians wrote:
> On Sat, 06 Dec 2008 08:31:10 -0500, chardonnay9
> wrote:
>
>
>>sighthounds & siberians wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, 05 Dec 2008 20:39:22 -0500, chardonnay9
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>elegy wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>the drugs are given in
>>>>>lower doses so that the dogs don't get the more notorious
>>>>>side-effects. some will have some minor nausea (and they make
>>>>>medication for that), maybe some appetite loss, but not what i'm
>>>>>guessing that you're imaginging.
>>>>
>>>>You think what you described is a typical reaction? Not even close.
>>>
>>>How the hell would you know? What elegy describes is, in fact,
>>>typical for dogs.
>>>
>>
>>Did you know there is absolutely no evidence that chemo helps?
>
>
> There are idiots who try to tell people with cancer that, too, and
> it's really dangerous. Even if there weren't scientific evidence that
> you're wrong, I have seen first-hand evidence in both dogs and people.
> Just so we're clear, this particular first-hand evidence was in my
> house.
>
>
Oh sure. Who are you the hell to bring actual experience and first
hand facts into the conversation?
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FurPaw wrote:
>chardonnay9 wrote:
>
>> Did you know there is absolutely no evidence that chemo helps?
>
> Considering the nature of the "evidence" that you have provided
> for your outrageous claims, and considering your lack of
> understanding of science, I believe that you actually believe
> that statement.

Duh! It says on the internet that chemo doesn't work! What the
scientific literature says is completely irrelevant to this
discussion...

:-)

Dianne
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