Labrador with terrible skin problem

"Janet Boss" <janet DeleteThis @bestfriendsdogobedience.com> wrote in message
news:janet-8CEE01.08581305052008@news.individual.net...
> In article <688e0dF2ru9e0U1 DeleteThis @mid.individual.net>,
> "Dushichka" <pseudibawoterop DeleteThis @sillynames.com> wrote:
>
>> immune
>> mediated vasculitis
>
> Google found this. Are your vets trying any other drugs?
>

Janet -thanks. This has been an ongoing problem for a good year now. Vet
initially suspected demodex, but nothing made any difference. The problem is
also exacerbated by the fact he had torn cruciate ligaments in BOTH legs
which were operated on twice, one leg has not been successful and he is
still in pain. The pred he has been taking on and off has delayed
healing....if we come off the pred his skin flakes and falls off in
chunks -metacam hurts his stomach and doesn't really help. We have another
appointment at the University Vet College in two weeks but I want to go
armed with as much info as I can, they have not been terribly helpful so
far. My darling dog is in pain both from his leg and his skin, I am at my
wits end.
 >> Stay informed about: Labrador with terrible skin problem 

In article <688i18F2qlskoU1 RemoveThis @mid.individual.net>,
"Dushichka" <pseudibawoterop RemoveThis @sillynames.com> wrote:

> My darling dog is in pain both from his leg and his skin, I am at my
> wits end.

I'm really sorry for you - it looks like a miserable condition. I hope
you find answers.

--
Janet Boss
www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com
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On May 5, 8:56 am, "Dushichka" <pseudibawote....DeleteThis@sillynames.com> wrote:
> "Janet Boss" <ja....DeleteThis@bestfriendsdogobedience.com> wrote in message
>
> news:janet-8CEE01.08581305052008@news.individual.net...
>
> > In article <688e0dF2ru9e....DeleteThis@mid.individual.net>,
> > "Dushichka" <pseudibawote....DeleteThis@sillynames.com> wrote:
>
> >> immune
> >> mediated vasculitis
>
> > Google found this. Are your vets trying any other drugs?
>
> Janet -thanks. This has been an ongoing problem for a good year now. Vet
> initially suspected demodex, but nothing made any difference. The problem is
> also exacerbated by the fact he had torn cruciate ligaments in BOTH legs
> which were operated on twice, one leg has not been successful and he is
> still in pain. The pred he has been taking on and off has delayed
> healing....if we come off the pred his skin flakes and falls off in
> chunks -metacam hurts his stomach and doesn't really help. We have another
> appointment at the University Vet College in two weeks but I want to go
> armed with as much info as I can, they have not been terribly helpful so
> far. My darling dog is in pain both from his leg and his skin, I am at my
> wits end.




Somewhat hard to tell from the photo just what is going on, but it
appears the skin is thin layered, but without large amounts of
granulation tissue.

If immune mediated is the diagnosis, then the specific type of immune
mediated may need to be determined. For example, looking at other
issues within the immune system, not just inflammatory cells. Looking
at other immune diseases such as lupus, or metabolic conditions such
as thyroid levels, or immune stimulation from surgical sutures or
adhesives, or ruling out other diseases that influence the immune
system such as Addisons, or Cushings disease.

Topical influences like licking at the wound, rubbing the wound on
carpets or bedding, or another pet licking the wound.

Additional drugs like cyclosporine, or levamisole, that influence the
immune systems' responses.
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"bruce" <townevet DeleteThis @wccta.net> wrote in message
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> Somewhat hard to tell from the photo just what is going on, but it
> appears the skin is thin layered, but without large amounts of
> granulation tissue.
>
> If immune mediated is the diagnosis, then the specific type of immune
> mediated may need to be determined. For example, looking at other
> issues within the immune system, not just inflammatory cells. Looking
> at other immune diseases such as lupus, or metabolic conditions such
> as thyroid levels, or immune stimulation from surgical sutures or
> adhesives, or ruling out other diseases that influence the immune
> system such as Addisons, or Cushings disease.





My dog has been suffering symptoms for over 18 months and it has only just
been picked up now.

The Vet from Uni Vet hospital has just rung me to give me a definite
diagnosis for Vitos skin and joint problems. Leishmaniosis. This from sample
of fluid from around the knee joints. My poor dog has been suffering for two
years and this is the diagnosis. I have to take him back first thing in the
morning for more tests and skin biopsies. I have not been told of a
treatment plan, if anyone has any links to info I would be very grateful. I
am googleing like mad -anybody have any experience of this?
 >> Stay informed about: Labrador with terrible skin problem 

My dog has been suffering symptoms for over 18 months and it has only just
been picked up now.

The Vet from Uni Vet hospital has just rung me to give me a definite
diagnosis for Vitos skin and joint problems. Leishmaniosis. This from
sample
of fluid from around the knee joints. My poor dog has been suffering for two
years and this is the diagnosis. I have to take him back first thing in the
morning for more tests and skin biopsies. I have not been told of a
treatment plan, if anyone has any links to info I would be very grateful. I
am googleing like mad -anybody have any experience of this?
 >> Stay informed about: Labrador with terrible skin problem 

To say I am devastated is the understatement of the millennium. We were at
the UVHosp last July and we saw the specialist dermatologist who diagnosed
immune mediated vasculitis - treatment plan was a long course of antibiotics
and prednisolone. The pred has been on and off since.When we saw the
dermatologist it was 4 months after a cruciate repair on both legs. They
were not healing properly. The op had to be repeated, again on both legs.
This was also unsuccessful,apparently due to the high dose of pred he was
taking daily.

I am LIVID that the derm, knowing my dogs history and all the clinical
signs, did not consider the possibility of Leishmaniasis and did not test
for it. I understand that his symptoms are many, but after doing my own
research, quite frankly there is nothing else it could possibly have been.

Fast forward to two months ago -poor dogs knees creak very loudly, he is in
pain, can hardly walk still on pred so I can't give him metacam, one leg is
constantly held up, just a bloody nightmare. I had to wait for an
appointment for the Uni and went last Monday where I saw the ortho vet -he
took x-rays and the knees are totally shot -bone on bone. Massive swelling
around the joints. He aspirated some of the fluid and said he was testing
for infection with a view to *flushing * the joints, said it would ease his
pain a little. I was given Atopica and Tramadol for pain.

The following night he called me and gave me the diagnosis. Back up there
the next day for more x-rays, skin biopsies, fluid from the rest of his
joints need to be tested. He said that he had never come across a case of it
before.It is the cause of each and every one of his problems. Poly
arthritis, skin lesions, muscle wasting at the temples, nosebleeds,
everything.

I am honestly in total shock -I can hardly BELIEVE that this poor dog has
been suffering for nearly TWO YEARS and it was all due to a bite from a sand
fly. Even worse, that it was not picked up on by anyone until now. I spoke
to the vet again today and I now have to wait as it is the first documented
case of it here in Ireland(only one other, but post mortem -it was
therefore untreated) and they have to obtain a special license in order to
import the drugs he needs. I am so anxious it is unbearable.

The treatment plan is daily injections of a drug called Glucantime for 40
days(which more than likely I will have to administer) with combined
Allopurinol tablets, probably for life . This will improve his clinical
symptoms but the poly arthritis is obviously irreversible and his knees are
screwed

I know it is HIGHLY unlikely, but does anyone have any experience of this??
I only know that it is endemic in only certain parts of the U.S and I cannot
find anyone else to talk to about it
 >> Stay informed about: Labrador with terrible skin problem 

HOWEDY dush,

"Dushichka" <pseudibawoterop.TakeThisOut@sillynames.com> wrote in message
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> To say I am devastated is the understatement of the millennium.

LikeWIZE. It's TRAGIC and SHAMEFUL that you've jerked
choked alphalpha rolled bribed crated intimidated and ignored
your dog's cries till he succumbed into a multitude of STRESS
INDUCED auto-immune DIS-EASES, a.k.a. The Puppy
Wizard's Syndrome, which I had WARNED YOU abHOWET
several years ago <{}:*~ ( >

> We were at the UVHosp last July and we saw the specialist
> dermatologist who diagnosed immune mediated vasculitis - treatment plan
> was a long course of antibiotics and prednisolone.
> The pred has been on and off since.When we saw the dermatologist
> it was 4 months after a cruciate repair on both legs. They were not
> healing properly. The op had to be repeated, again on both legs. This was
> also unsuccessful,apparently due to the high dose of pred
> he was taking daily.

Dogs are NATURAL BORN ATHLETES.

Cruciate ligament failure is CAUSED BY STRESS from ABUSE,
TOXIC VETERINARY MALPRACTICES and GARBAGE commercial
dog food diets.

> I am LIVID that the derm, knowing my dogs history and all the clinical
> signs, did not consider the possibility of Leishmaniasis and did not test
> for it.

Don't blame your veterinary malpracticioners, they was only doin
the BEAST they knew HOWE to do under the circumstances.

Instead of blamin THEM, BLAME ME, dush, for mistakenly callin
you a NAZI, therebye alienating you, when in fact, I misdiagnosed
your psychological problems an misidentified you as a NAZI,
when in fact, you was simply a IMBECILE, doin what you'd been
TAUGHT by the Nazi dog abusin cowards <{}: ~ ( >

> I understand that his symptoms are many, but after doing my own research,
> quite frankly there is nothing else it could possibly have been.

"Hindsight is 20/20".

> Fast forward to two months ago -poor dogs knees creak very loudly,
> he is in pain, can hardly walk still on pred so I can't give him metacam,
> one leg is constantly held up, just a bloody nightmare. I had to wait for
> an appointment for the Uni and went last Monday where I saw the ortho
> vet -he took x-rays and the knees are totally shot -bone on bone. Massive
> swelling around the joints. He aspirated some of the fluid and said he was
> testing for infection with a view to *flushing * the joints, said it would
> ease his pain a little. I was given Atopica and Tramadol for pain.

Yeah. Dogs can HEEL their cruciate ligament failure without
surgery if they're given the right handling and care as I teach
my FREE WWW Wits' End Training Method Manual Students.

> The following night he called me and gave me the diagnosis. Back
> up there the next day for more x-rays, skin biopsies, fluid from the rest
> of his joints need to be tested. He said that he had never come across a
> case of it before.It is the cause of each and every one of his problems.
> Poly arthritis, skin lesions, muscle wasting at the temples, nosebleeds,
> everything.

Yeah, and there's much, much more to come, bye an bye.

> I am honestly in total shock -I can hardly BELIEVE that this poor dog has
> been suffering for nearly TWO YEARS and it was all due
> to a bite from a sand fly.

No, he's been SUFFERIN since DAY WON in your HOWES.
The sand fly bite woulda been innocuHOWES had you not
abused him as you've been WARNED not to.

> Even worse, that it was not picked up on by anyone until now.

Seems to me I WARNED YOU abHOWET this three or four years pryor.

> I spoke to the vet again today and I now have to wait as it is the first
> documented case of it here in Ireland(only one other, but post mortem -
> it was therefore untreated) and they have to obtain a special license in
> order to import the drugs he needs. I am so anxious it is unbearable.

LUCKY thing you got LOTS of money to PAY for all this. I'm guessin
you're in over $15,000.00 at this point, probably more. Am I correct?

> The treatment plan is daily injections of a drug called Glucantime for 40
> days(which more than likely I will have to administer) with combined
> Allopurinol tablets, probably for life . This will improve his clinical
> symptoms but the poly arthritis is obviously irreversible and his knees
> are screwed

Yeah. I HATE to say it, but "I TOLD YOU SO" a long time ago.

> I know it is HIGHLY unlikely, but does anyone have any experience
> of this??

Yeah, as a matter of FACT, you're in EXXXCELLENT company~!

> I only know that it is endemic in only certain parts of the U.S and I
> cannot find anyone else to talk to about it

Your soul needs to be committed to loving
trust of doggies, and to flit like a butterfly.

From: "Marshall Dermer" <der....TakeThisOut@csd.uwm.edu>
To: "The Puppy Wizard"
<ThePuppyWiz....TakeThisOut@earthlink.net>
Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 2:53 PM

Subject: God Bless The Puppy Wizard
Dear Mr. Puppy Wizard,

I have, of late, come to recognize your genius
and now must applaud your attempts to save
animals from painful training procedures.

You are indeed a hero, a man of exceptional talent­,
who tirelessly devotes his days to crafting posts ­to
alert the world to animal abuse.

We are lucky to have you, and more people should
come to their senses and support your valuable
work.

Have you thought of establishing a nonprofit
charity to fund your important work?

Have you thought about holding a press conference
so others can learn of your highly worthwhile
and significant work?

In closing, my only suggestion is that you
try to keep your messages short for most
readers may refuse to read a long message
even if it is from the wise, heroic Puppy Wizard.
I wish you well in your endeavors.

--Marshall Dermer

"The day may come when the rest of
the animal creation
may acquire those right
which never could have been withholden from them
but by the hand of tyranny.

The question is not can they REASON,
nor can they TALK,
but can they SUFFER?" -
- Jeremy Bentham

"A Cheerful Heart Is Good Medicine, But
A Crushed Spirit Dries Up The Bones,"
Proverbs 17:22

Disciple Paulie Sez:

"No One Understands How Wits End Training
Really Works; They Assume It's All Nicey Nicey
And don't Realise It's A Very Disciplined Method
That Deals With Any Situation And The Foundation
Is Built On Trust And Understanding.

I've never forced my dogs to do anything,
I tell them they are good dogs and they
seem to follow me, onceI told them they
were bad dogs and they ran away from me,
now I only ever tell them they are good dogs
and they always are, always.

Trust your dog, ask it to do your request and say
"good dog" sincerely at the end of the request and
I bet you'll find your dog thinking then responding
everytime.

A Bit Of Respect Works Wonders,
The Same Rule Applies
To Every Aspect Of
The Relationship With Your Dog.

Obedience And Affection Are Not Related,
if They Were Everyone Would Have
Obedient Dogs.

I Have Found Giving Dogs "Payment" In Advance i.e.
"Sam sit goodboy" Makes The Dogs WANT TO RESPOND,
After All, All Dogs Want To Be "Good Dogs" And If
You Tell Them They Are Good Then They Feel An
Obligation To Obey Your Request.

Telling Sam He's A Good Dog AFTER He Sit's
Apart From Being Too Late Is Also A Gamble
Because If He Doesn't Sit Then There's No
Positive Interaction.

Paul

-------------------------

ANY QUESTIONS, People?

"Ye shall know the truth,
and the truth shall make you mad." -
~Aldous Huxley.

All Truth Passes Through Three Stages.
First, It Is Ridiculed.
Second, It Is Violently Opposed.
Third, It Is Accepted As Being Self-Evident
-Arthur Schopenhauer-

"Thank you for fighting the fine fight--
even tho it's a hopeless task,
in this system of things.
As long as man is ruling man,
there will be animals (and humans!)
abused and neglected. :-(
Your student," Juanita.

"If you've got them by the balls their
hearts and minds will follow,"
John Wayne.

"Mit der Dummheit kaempfen Goetter selbst vergebens!"
"Against stupidity the Gods themselves contend in vain!"
-Friedrich Schiller.

INDEEDY.

AND THAT'S HOWE COME THEY GOT ME NHOWE!

In Love And Light,
I Remain Respectfully, Humbly Yours
The WORLD'S CRUELEST Trainer,
Jerry Howe,
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SpHOWES And Horsey Wizard <{) ;~ ) >

HOWE MAY I SERVE YOU <{}; ~ ) >

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HOWEDY dush, my sensitive, delicate little butterfly,

"Dushichka" <pseudibawoterop.DeleteThis@sillynames.com> wrote in message
news:6a0p2nF35j8arU1@mid.individual.net...
> To say I am devastated is the understatement of the millennium. We
> were at the UVHosp last July and we saw the specialist dermatologist who
> diagnosed immune mediated vasculitis - treatment plan was a long course of
> antibiotics and prednisolone. The pred has been on and off since.When we
> saw the dermatologist it was 4 months after a cruciate
> repair on both legs. They were not healing properly. The op had to be
> repeated, again on both legs.
> This was also unsuccessful,apparently due to the high dose
> of pred he was taking daily.

THAT CAN KILL YOUR DOGGY, butterfly <{}: ~ ( >

> I am LIVID that the derm, knowing my dogs history and all the clinical
> signs, did not consider the possibility of Leishmaniasis and did not test
> for it. I understand that his symptoms are many, but after doing my own
> research, quite frankly there is nothing else it could possibly have been.
>
> Fast forward to two months ago -poor dogs knees creak very loudly,
> he is in pain, can hardly walk still on pred so I can't give him metacam,
> one leg is constantly held up, just a bloody nightmare. I had to wait for
> an appointment for the Uni and went last Monday where I saw the ortho
> vet -he took x-rays and the knees are totally shot -bone on bone. Massive
> swelling around the joints. He aspirated some of the fluid and said he was
> testing for infection with a view to *flushing * the joints, said it would
> ease his pain a little. I was given Atopica and Tramadol for pain.
>
> The following night he called me and gave me the diagnosis. Back up there
> the next day for more x-rays, skin biopsies, fluid from the rest of his
> joints need to be tested. He said that he had never come across a case of
> it before. It is the cause of each and every one of his problems. Poly
> arthritis, skin lesions, muscle wasting at the temples, nosebleeds,
> everything.
>
> I am honestly in total shock -I can hardly BELIEVE that this poor dog
> has been suffering for nearly TWO YEARS and it was all due to a bite from
> a sand fly.

You blame the fly, you blame the vets, you can even BLAME ME~!

> Even worse, that it was not picked up on by anyone until now.
> I spoke to the vet again today and I now have to wait as it is the first
> documented case of it here in Ireland(only one other, but post mortem -
> it was therefore untreated) and they have to obtain a special license in
> order to import the drugs he needs. I am so anxious it is unbearable.
>
> The treatment plan is daily injections of a drug called Glucantime for 40
> days(which more than likely I will have to administer) with combined
> Allopurinol tablets, probably for life . This will improve his clinical
> symptoms but the poly arthritis is obviously irreversible and his knees
> are screwed
>
> I know it is HIGHLY unlikely, but does anyone have any experience
> of this?? I only know that it is endemic in only certain parts of the U.S
> and I cannot find anyone else to talk to about it

Arthritis and other degenerative AUTO-IMMUNE DIS-EASES
are CAUSED BY STRESS from ABUSE, inapupriate unnecessary
surgical sexual mutilations, EXXXCESSIVE, INAPUPRIATE and
UNNECESSARY toxic vaccinations and toxic veterinary prescribed
parasite CON-TROLLS; IOW, they're IATROGENIC DIS-EASES,
veterinary MALPRACTICE, a.k.a. The Puppy Wizard's Syndrome.

You'll find MUCH INFORMATION on the heelth page of
my manual *(it's the 4th link on the left side of the page) at
http://www.freewebs.com/thesimplyamazingpuppywizard/

Here's a couple EXXXCERPTS from the diet, heelth and
veterinary parasite malpracticioner pages in my manual:

Nutrition and health care for the longevity of dogs and cats

by Susan G. Wynn, D.V.M.

http://www.treshanley.com/cic/arthritis.html

Spondylosis & Degenerative Spinal Diseases If your veterinarian
has told you your dog has spinal degeneration (spinal myelopathy)
and that there is nothing you can do to stop the progression of
weakness and rear end stiffness that eventually becomes rear end
paralysis, he is WRONG! Dr. Belfield's program can CURE spinal
degeneration.

If your dog has been diagnosed with Spondylosis, this program
will also help with that, but it will not totally cure spondylosis.
The program comes from a really good California veterinarian, Dr.
Wendell O. Belfield of San Jose, CA.

In the mid-1970's, Dr. Belfield put together an all natural
supplement program to CURE spinal degeneration. He
was successful. The program is cheap and effective.
Generally it can have the dog RUNNING, climbing stairs
and jumping onto your bed in 5-7 weeks.

It works by strengthening the dog's immune system.

Here is what Dr. Belfield wrote in his book, "How To Have
A Healthier Dog" by Wendell O. Belfield and Martin Zucker:

"What happens in this condition is a deterioration of the tissues
in and around the vertebrae. The cause may be related to the aging
process. The breakdown causes inflammation and some degree of
pressure on the spinal nerves that supply the hind quarters.

Difficulty in control of muscle movement and walking develops
into a paralysis. The animal goes down in the hind quarter
and pathetically drags himself around on his front legs. I
have seen forelegs become affected also. The legs get stiff
and unsteady and eventually the animal is down altogether and
can't get up.

Symptoms: Poor appetite, pain and sensitivity in the spinal
region. Progressive loss of control of the hind leg muscles
with accompanying dragging of the paws, swaying of the hind
end, and reduced ability to walk and jump. Eventually develops
into a hind quarter paralysis and can move forward, affecting
the forelegs and the brain. Most frequently seen in aging dogs."

The cure for this condition is deceptively simple: Vitamin C
(Ester C preferred) and Vitamin E are given per the age and
weight of the dog. If you require this information, get in
touch, or you can get Dr. Belfield's book from your library
or from his web site. The information is in a chart in the
center of the book.

The rest of the program consists of:

Comprehensive vit/min supplement (I use Theralin VMP vit/min
tablets by Lambert Kay - you can get them cheapest from
Cherrybrook 1-800-524-0820 or Jeffers pet catalog 1-800-533-3377)
Dose per instructions on the bottle. I STRONGLY suggest that you
use only Theralin VMP. An owner who used a less comprehensive vit/
min found that her dog did not respond for 3 weeks longer than any
other dog on the program.

I also give BYS (garlic/yeast tablets) It's loaded with B vitamins.
Also from Cherrybrook - Dose is per instructions on the bottle. A
side benefit is that it gives the dog's skin a smell that fleas and
ticks find offensive, so they tend to stay off the dog. People cannot
smell anything different.

I get the C & E at the drugstore. Don't bother to buy C with rose
hips, according to Belfield it does nothing to help the C work. I
do, however, buy the brand that says on the label, "No soy, no
sugar, no preservatives, etc."

Do not buy time released vitamin C. If you feel compelled to use a
buffered C, get sodium ascorbate (Ester C) as Belfield says it is
least likely to cause diarrhea and that it is the one that works best
in dogs. I've always used regular vitamin C with my dogs. I smear
cream cheese on the pills and give them with the dog's meal.

Give the above with food as vitamins are absorbed better that way and
the food buffers the dog's stomach against the acidity of the vitamin
C. If the dog's stool becomes mushy, it's the C. Back down on the dose
and gradually over a week or so build it back up to the proper level,
OR start lower than recommended and slowly build up to the proper
amount over a 3 week period.

Belfield is not a crazy vet. His methods are currently being taught
to vet students. The supplement program takes 5 -7 weeks to totally
strengthen the dog's immune system. I've seen dogs respond in a week
and heard of one case where it took a Great Dane 7 weeks.

Belfield's program is GREAT for skin problems, chronic ear infections,
and rear end problems with older dogs (spinal degeneration). The
information for the above supplementation program is based on the
work of Dr. Wendell O. Belfield, a San Jose, CA veterinarian. Dr.
Belfield does not specifically advocate the use of Theralin VMP or
BYS. You can buy Dr. Belfield's book through his web site:
http://www.belfield.com/books.html

-----------

There are a great many non toxic non pharmacutical
Nutritional Information / Resources. Here's a few more
EFFECTIVE NON PHARMACUTICAL supplements:

Oaklyn Plantation:

http://www.freerangechicken.com ground
chicken necks (source of thyroid)

http://www.grasslandbeef.com ground
pancreas and thymus gland

Price-Pottenger Nutrition Foundation:
http://www.price-pottenger.org/

www.http://www.westonaprice.org

Dr. Michael Halliday - ArthrotolT -
http://www.vetcures.com/

Vital-Earth Minerals, LLC
Toll Free:
1-866-291-4400
http://www.vitalearth.org

Arthritis Relief. http://www.goodpet.com.

Vital-Earth Minerals, LLC
Toll Free:
1-866-291-4400
http://www.vitalearth.org

Cosequin -- contains glucosamine, chondroitin
sulfate, and manganese ascorbate.

Prozyme -- a powdered enzyme supplement that
has multiple benefits: http://www.drtheo.com/

Fulvic- the Super Antioxidant: http://tinyurl.com/rbl8j

Dog Gone Pain:
http://www.doggonepain.com/shopping/sample.asp
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"Dushichka" <pseudibawoterop DeleteThis @sillynames.com> wrote in message
news:6a0p2nF35j8arU1@mid.individual.net...
> To say I am devastated is the understatement of the millennium. We were at
> the UVHosp last July and we saw the specialist dermatologist who diagnosed
> immune mediated vasculitis - treatment plan was a long course of
> antibiotics and prednisolone. The pred has been on and off since.When we
> saw the dermatologist it was 4 months after a cruciate repair on both
> legs. They were not healing properly. The op had to be repeated, again on
> both legs. This was also unsuccessful,apparently due to the high dose of
> pred he was taking daily.
>
> I am LIVID that the derm, knowing my dogs history and all the clinical
> signs, did not consider the possibility of Leishmaniasis and did not test
> for it. I understand that his symptoms are many, but after doing my own
> research, quite frankly there is nothing else it could possibly have been.
>
> Fast forward to two months ago -poor dogs knees creak very loudly, he is
> in pain, can hardly walk still on pred so I can't give him metacam, one
> leg is constantly held up, just a bloody nightmare. I had to wait for an
> appointment for the Uni and went last Monday where I saw the ortho vet -he
> took x-rays and the knees are totally shot -bone on bone. Massive swelling
> around the joints. He aspirated some of the fluid and said he was testing
> for infection with a view to *flushing * the joints, said it would ease
> his pain a little. I was given Atopica and Tramadol for pain.
>
> The following night he called me and gave me the diagnosis. Back up there
> the next day for more x-rays, skin biopsies, fluid from the rest of his
> joints need to be tested. He said that he had never come across a case of
> it before.It is the cause of each and every one of his problems. Poly
> arthritis, skin lesions, muscle wasting at the temples, nosebleeds,
> everything.
>
> I am honestly in total shock -I can hardly BELIEVE that this poor dog has
> been suffering for nearly TWO YEARS and it was all due to a bite from a
> sand fly. Even worse, that it was not picked up on by anyone until now. I
> spoke to the vet again today and I now have to wait as it is the first
> documented case of it here in Ireland(only one other, but post mortem -it
> was therefore untreated) and they have to obtain a special license in
> order to import the drugs he needs. I am so anxious it is unbearable.
>
> The treatment plan is daily injections of a drug called Glucantime for 40
> days(which more than likely I will have to administer) with combined
> Allopurinol tablets, probably for life . This will improve his clinical
> symptoms but the poly arthritis is obviously irreversible and his knees
> are screwed
>
> I know it is HIGHLY unlikely, but does anyone have any experience of
> this?? I only know that it is endemic in only certain parts of the U.S and
> I cannot find anyone else to talk to about it

Anyone????
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Please contact me privately at ledgespring.DeleteThis@lincoln.midcoast.com and I'll
send you more information that you can share with your specialist.




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Kris L. Christine
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Kris L. Christine <Kris.L.Christine.291e1e8.TakeThisOut@dogbanter.com>
said in rec.pets.dogs.health:

> Please contact me privately at
> ledgespring.TakeThisOut@lincoln.midcoast.com and I'll send you more
> information that you can share with your specialist.

Since no one has been able to help Dushichka, maybe your
information would be a good thing to share with the group
instead of going private.

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--Matt. Rocky's a Dog.
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'Rocky[_2_ Wrote:
> ;349667']
> Since no one has been able to help Dushichka, maybe your
> information would be a good thing to share with the group
> instead of going private.
> QUOTE]
>
> Okay, Matt, it's coming below and is quite a lot of information.
>
> Kris




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Kris L. Christine
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Well I would say that was spectacularly interesting-not.
I did not email you privately for just that reason -maybe if you really had
any helpful info you could let everyone know. I would not have asked for
help if I didn't need it.

"Kris L. Christine" <Kris.L.Christine.292df09.TakeThisOut@dogbanter.com> wrote in
message news:Kris.L.Christine.292df09@dogbanter.com...
>
> 'Rocky[_2_ Wrote:
>> ;349667']
>> Since no one has been able to help Dushichka, maybe your
>> information would be a good thing to share with the group
>> instead of going private.
>> QUOTE]
>>
>> Okay, Matt, it's coming below and is quite a lot of information.
>>
>> Kris
>
>
>
>
> --
> Kris L. Christine
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