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Since: Aug 25, 2005
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 9:42 pm
Post subject: Insect Collection Cruelty
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My son is a freshman in a Christian High School. This school has a long
tradition of making an insect collection a large part of the Biology
curriculum. Each student is expected to catch, kill and mount as large
a variety of insects as possible. I believe that this is wrong on many
levels. First, it teaches disrespect for life. Second, it is
ecologically irresponsible. Third, it is an ineffective and
time-consuming way to teach one of the most unimportant aspects of
biology.
Can you help me convince my son's teacher that what he is doing is
wrong? A Google search was very unfruitful, and only produced some
anti-PETA articles from FOX news. I don't get it- this approach to
biology is so wrong and outdated, why am I the only one up in arms?
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2005 10:29 am
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"Dr Phred" <drphred.RemoveThis@attitude.com> wrote in message
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> My son is a freshman in a Christian High School. This school
> has a long
> tradition of making an insect collection a large part of the
> Biology
> curriculum. Each student is expected to catch, kill and mount
> as large
> a variety of insects as possible. I believe that this is wrong
> on many
> levels. First, it teaches disrespect for life. Second, it is
> ecologically irresponsible. Third, it is an ineffective and
> time-consuming way to teach one of the most unimportant aspects
> of
> biology.
>
> Can you help me convince my son's teacher that what he is doing
> is
> wrong? A Google search was very unfruitful, and only produced
> some
> anti-PETA articles from FOX news. I don't get it- this approach
> to
> biology is so wrong and outdated, why am I the only one up in
> arms?
> ====================
Because you are a shrill, braindead loony-toon that has nothing
better to do with their time.
The entireity of your life rests on the death and suffering of
far many more bugs, not to mention mammals, birds, reptiles, fish
and amphibians than your sons biology class will ever kill.
Hell, even your inane post to usenet contributed to the death and
suffering of far more animals than any biology class will affect.
You are a loser. You are a killer. You are a hypocrite, fool.
> Thanks.
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2005 1:11 pm
Post subject: Re: Insect Collection Cruelty [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2005 2:36 pm
Post subject: Re: Insect Collection Cruelty [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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rick wrote:
> "Dr Phred" <drphred DeleteThis @attitude.com> wrote in message
> news:1125087075.275748.21870@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
> > I'm not sure how I'm killing things by posting to usenet.
> >===================
> Of course you're not. Like all good ar fools, you remain
> willfully ignorant of your impact, and instead focus only on what
> you think others are doing. Try researching power generation and
> distribution and communications, hypocrite.
So ricky....if he *didn't* post to usenet, how many bugs' lives would
be saved?
(p.s. Are you the bug genius now?)
>
> Then get back with us on why YOU think it's ok to contribute to
> all those deaths just for your selfish, unnecessary
> entertainment. >> Stay informed about: Insect Collection Cruelty |
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2005 9:05 pm
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"Dr Phred" <drphred.TakeThisOut@attitude.com> wrote in message
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> I'm not sure how I'm killing things by posting to usenet.
>===================
Of course you're not. Like all good ar fools, you remain
willfully ignorant of your impact, and instead focus only on what
you think others are doing. Try researching power generation and
distribution and communications, hypocrite.
Then get back with us on why YOU think it's ok to contribute to
all those deaths just for your selfish, unnecessary
entertainment. >> Stay informed about: Insect Collection Cruelty |
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2005 10:42 pm
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"Bawl" <bunghole-jonnie RemoveThis @lycos.com> wrote in message
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> rick wrote:
>> "Dr Phred" <drphred RemoveThis @attitude.com> wrote in message
>> news:1125087075.275748.21870@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
>> > I'm not sure how I'm killing things by posting to usenet.
>> >===================
>> Of course you're not. Like all good ar fools, you remain
>> willfully ignorant of your impact, and instead focus only on
>> what
>> you think others are doing. Try researching power generation
>> and
>> distribution and communications, hypocrite.
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>
>
> So ricky....if he *didn't* post to usenet, how many bugs' lives
> would
> be saved?
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far more than veganism saves, hypocrite...
>
>
> (p.s. Are you the bug genius now?)
> ===================
Compared to you, I'm a genius on everything, except ignorance and
stupidity. You have those locked up, killer.
Thanks for again proving you cannot add anything to ANY thread,
hypocrite.
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>
>
>
>
>>
>> Then get back with us on why YOU think it's ok to contribute
>> to
>> all those deaths just for your selfish, unnecessary
>> entertainment.
> >> Stay informed about: Insect Collection Cruelty |
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2005 8:23 am
Post subject: Re: Insect Collection Cruelty [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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rick wrote:
> "Bawl" <bunghole-jonnie.DeleteThis@lycos.com> wrote in message
> news:1125092211.176251.312740@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> >
> > rick wrote:
> >> "Dr Phred" <drphred.DeleteThis@attitude.com> wrote in message
> >> news:1125087075.275748.21870@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
> >> > I'm not sure how I'm killing things by posting to usenet.
> >> >===================
> >> Of course you're not. Like all good ar fools, you remain
> >> willfully ignorant of your impact, and instead focus only on
> >> what
> >> you think others are doing. Try researching power generation
> >> and
> >> distribution and communications, hypocrite.
> >
> >
> >
> > So ricky....if he *didn't* post to usenet, how many bugs' lives
> > would
> > be saved?
> ==================
> far more than veganism saves, hypocrite...
You have some peer reviewed studies to cite Mr. Bug Genius?
How *do* you do it etter? Field Mouse Genius, Cow Food Expert, and now
Bug Genius......and you still find time to go to a farm and select the
specific bovine you want slaughtered for it's udder and murder burgers.
Just where do you find the time etter? You are such a busy boy.
>
> >
> >
> > (p.s. Are you the bug genius now?)
> > ===================
> Compared to you, I'm a genius on everything, except ignorance and
> stupidity. You have those locked up, killer.
> Thanks for again proving you cannot add anything to ANY thread,
> hypocrite.
>
>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>
> >> Then get back with us on why YOU think it's ok to contribute
> >> to
> >> all those deaths just for your selfish, unnecessary
> >> entertainment.
> > >> Stay informed about: Insect Collection Cruelty |
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2005 8:46 am
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2005 9:01 am
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Dr Phred wrote:
> I see lots of flame, but it isn't shedding any light on my problem...
Did you talk to the teacher?
If you haven't raised this objection with the teacher, what do you
expect any of us to do about it? >> Stay informed about: Insect Collection Cruelty |
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2005 10:22 am
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rick wrote:
> "Ron" <banmilk DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1125156210.986094.28720@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
> >
> > rick wrote:
> >> "Bawl" <bunghole-jonnie DeleteThis @lycos.com> wrote in message
> >> news:1125092211.176251.312740@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> >> >
> >> > rick wrote:
> >> >> "Dr Phred" <drphred DeleteThis @attitude.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:1125087075.275748.21870@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
> >> >> > I'm not sure how I'm killing things by posting to usenet.
> >> >> >===================
> >> >> Of course you're not. Like all good ar fools, you remain
> >> >> willfully ignorant of your impact, and instead focus only
> >> >> on
> >> >> what
> >> >> you think others are doing. Try researching power
> >> >> generation
> >> >> and
> >> >> distribution and communications, hypocrite.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > So ricky....if he *didn't* post to usenet, how many bugs'
> >> > lives
> >> > would
> >> > be saved?
> >> ==================
> >
> >
> >
> >> far more than veganism saves, hypocrite...
> >
> >
> >
> > You have some peer reviewed studies to cite Mr. Bug Genius?
> >
> >
> > How *do* you do it etter? Field Mouse Genius, Cow Food Expert,
> > and now
> > Bug Genius......and you still find time to go to a farm and
> > select the
> > specific bovine you want slaughtered for it's udder and murder
> > burgers.
> ======================
> Thanks for again proving you cannot add anything to ANY thread,
> hypocrite.
>
>
>
> >
> > Just where do you find the time etter? You are such a busy boy.
> >
> ======================
> Thanks for again proving you cannot add anything to ANY thread,
> hypocrite.
>
Thank you for your input ricky.
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > (p.s. Are you the bug genius now?)
> >> > ===================
> >> Compared to you, I'm a genius on everything, except ignorance
> >> and
> >> stupidity. You have those locked up, killer.
> >> Thanks for again proving you cannot add anything to ANY
> >> thread,
> >> hypocrite.
> >>
> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> Then get back with us on why YOU think it's ok to
> >> >> contribute
> >> >> to
> >> >> all those deaths just for your selfish, unnecessary
> >> >> entertainment.
> >> >
> > >> Stay informed about: Insect Collection Cruelty |
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2005 4:08 pm
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"Ron" <banmilk DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> rick wrote:
>> "Bawl" <bunghole-jonnie DeleteThis @lycos.com> wrote in message
>> news:1125092211.176251.312740@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>> >
>> > rick wrote:
>> >> "Dr Phred" <drphred DeleteThis @attitude.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:1125087075.275748.21870@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
>> >> > I'm not sure how I'm killing things by posting to usenet.
>> >> >===================
>> >> Of course you're not. Like all good ar fools, you remain
>> >> willfully ignorant of your impact, and instead focus only
>> >> on
>> >> what
>> >> you think others are doing. Try researching power
>> >> generation
>> >> and
>> >> distribution and communications, hypocrite.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > So ricky....if he *didn't* post to usenet, how many bugs'
>> > lives
>> > would
>> > be saved?
>> ==================
>
>
>
>> far more than veganism saves, hypocrite...
>
>
>
> You have some peer reviewed studies to cite Mr. Bug Genius?
>
>
> How *do* you do it etter? Field Mouse Genius, Cow Food Expert,
> and now
> Bug Genius......and you still find time to go to a farm and
> select the
> specific bovine you want slaughtered for it's udder and murder
> burgers.
======================
Thanks for again proving you cannot add anything to ANY thread,
hypocrite.
>
> Just where do you find the time etter? You are such a busy boy.
>
======================
Thanks for again proving you cannot add anything to ANY thread,
hypocrite.
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>
>
>
>
>
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > (p.s. Are you the bug genius now?)
>> > ===================
>> Compared to you, I'm a genius on everything, except ignorance
>> and
>> stupidity. You have those locked up, killer.
>> Thanks for again proving you cannot add anything to ANY
>> thread,
>> hypocrite.
>>
>>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Then get back with us on why YOU think it's ok to
>> >> contribute
>> >> to
>> >> all those deaths just for your selfish, unnecessary
>> >> entertainment.
>> >
> >> Stay informed about: Insect Collection Cruelty |
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 12:27 pm
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 3:15 pm
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rick wrote:
> "Pesco-vegan" <prplbn DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1125257226.190200.124850@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> > You may think it's silly or hypocritical of Phred to be
> > worrying about
> > these
> > insects but can you explain how the students are learning
> > anything
> > useful
> > from the process?
> ========================
> Do you know what is taught in the class along with the
> collection?
No but what useful knowledge could such a collection be
used to teach?
> Didn't think so, fool.
Let me know when you are ready to debate in a civilized fashion. >> Stay informed about: Insect Collection Cruelty |
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 9:17 pm
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"Pesco-vegan" <prplbn RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> You may think it's silly or hypocritical of Phred to be
> worrying about
> these
> insects but can you explain how the students are learning
> anything
> useful
> from the process?
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Do you know what is taught in the class along with the
collection? Didn't think so, fool.
> >> Stay informed about: Insect Collection Cruelty |
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 12:50 am
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"Pesco-vegan" <prplbn RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> rick wrote:
>
>> "Pesco-vegan" <prplbn RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1125257226.190200.124850@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>> > You may think it's silly or hypocritical of Phred to be
>> > worrying about
>> > these
>> > insects but can you explain how the students are learning
>> > anything
>> > useful
>> > from the process?
>> ========================
>> Do you know what is taught in the class along with the
>> collection?
>
> No but what useful knowledge could such a collection be
> used to teach?
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I could see all kinds of things. Each 'collection' will no doubt
be different. Each insect, and its place in the environment can
be discussed with real examples of it, and the insects it
interacts with in a real-world setting. far more teachable than
any dry, boring look at a book and try to imagine each insect,
and their interactions. That you have a closed-minded view of
the use of animals is typical of AR loons. Again, like I asked
the OP, why all the concern for what amounts to only dozens of
bugs when your lifestyle, including posting to usenet,
contributes to the death of millions upon millions of insects,
AND mammals, birds, reptiles, fish and amphibians?
>
>> Didn't think so, fool.
>
> Let me know when you are ready to debate in a civilized
> fashion.
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Already have. You, on the other hand, have brought nothing but
emotive foolishness to the discussion.
You refused to even try to see any use, so immediately its
'wrong.'
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