Ignoring Rudy

Meadowlark wrote:
> Rudy Canoza wrote:
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>> Yes, you're Karen.
>
>
> No, I'm not.

Yes, you are. Stop lying. You are Karen Winter.


>
>> So, tell us: what is the issue to which you made vague reference ("I
>> have just learned of a very serious issue in my life, and need your
>> prayers.")? Just tell us what it is. You certainly haven't had any
>> qualms in the past about sharing a lot of details of your life. Come
>> on, just tell us.
>
>
>
> That wasn't me

Yes, it was. Karen, you don't seem to understand about
the computer signature on posted messages to usenet.
The signatures on your "Meadowlark" and "Cynomis" posts
are *identical*. You post to the same groups, you
write the same way, you have the same viewpoints. Your
continuing to lie and say you're not Karen is ludicrous.

> -- but why would anyone tell you anything?
> You and Usual wouldn't only try to use it to hurt that person.

I think you meant to say we *would* only try to use it
in that way, but that's completely false. Neither of
us ever tried to hurt you. We were trying to help you
by getting you to realize how wrong your sentiments
are, and trying to get you to stop thinking that way.
It is wrong of you, for example, to want your grandson
to grow up homosexual only to spite your son. It was
wrong of you to abandon your son, and it still is wrong
of you to try to paint it as something other than
abandonment.

So, just tell us what the serious issue in your life is
or was for which you needed the prayers of the
participants in a.r.c.e. What harm could it possibly do?
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Rudy Canoza wrote:

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> Yes, it was. Karen,

I'm not Karen

<snip>

> Neither of us ever tried to hurt you.

<snip>
No, but you have definitely tried to -- and suceeded in --
hurting this Winter person. I've Googled your entire sordid history
on that. You are dangerous and utterly unscrupulous.

Once anyone knows about you, he would never give you any infomation
whatever. You use it only for evil.
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usual suspect wrote:
> Meadowlark wrote:

>> I'm not Karen

And I am not. That's the last I intend to say on the subject.
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Meadowlark wrote:

> Rudy Canoza wrote:
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> <snip>

You even note your snips, when you note them, exactly
as you did when posting as "Rat" or "Cynomis".


>
>
>> Yes, it was. Karen,
>
>
> I'm not Karen

Yes, you are. Stop lying.


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> <snip>
>
>> Neither of us ever tried to hurt you.
>
>
> <snip>
> No, but you have definitely tried to -- and suceeded in --
> hurting this Winter person.

Stop the charade, Karen. It's silly.

Neither Mr. Suspect nor I ever attempted to hurt you.

Just tell us what the issue is, Karen. What is the
serious issue in your life over which you asked people
to pray for you? You know better than to think that
Mr. Suspect or I would sneer at genuine misfortune. If
it's something genuinely bad that happened to you out
of your control, you'd get sympathy. If it's something
you've done that's gotten you in trouble, you'd get
encouragement to put it right while acknowledging your
responsibility. Just tell us; there really is no
reason not to.
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Beach Runner wrote:
> Laurie,

His name is Larry. Don't confirm him in his usenet transvestitism.

> Thanks again for your thick hide

He has a matching skull.

> and writing the truth.

He's opposed to the truth.

<...>
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Meadowlark wrote:

> usual suspect wrote:
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>> Meadowlark wrote:
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>>> I'm not Karen
>
>
> And I am not.

Yes, you are. Stop lying.


> That's the last I intend to say on the subject.

We'll see about that. You've also said you intended to
stop posting here altogether, yet you've always returned.
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Scented Nectar wrote:

> I sincerely hope that you
> are not the Karen they're talking
> about.

I am not
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Scented Nectar wrote:

> "Rudy Canoza" <someguy RemoveThis @ph.con> wrote in message
> news:Tv8Je.1750$Je.1505@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...
>
>>Meadowlark wrote:
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>>>usual suspect wrote:
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>>>
>>>>Meadowlark wrote:
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>>>
>>>>>I'm not Karen
>>>
>>>
>>>And I am not.
>>
>>Yes, you are. Stop lying.
>>
>>
>>
>>>That's the last I intend to say on the subject.
>>
>>We'll see about that. You've also said you intended to
>>stop posting here altogether, yet you've always returned.
>
>
> Settle it this way.

It's already settled. "Meadowlark" is Karen Winter's
latest pseudonym.
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Rudy Canoza wrote:

Nothing on topic.

As usual.
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Rudy Canoza wrote:

> Well...what a remarkable coincidence, eh?

Remarkable how there is only one fan in Los Angeles,
isn't it?
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Dutch wrote:

> "Beach Runner" <bob RemoveThis @nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:mzjIe.60112$mC.17292@tornado.tampabay.rr.com...
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>>
>>Dutch wrote:
>>
>>>"Beach Runner" <bob RemoveThis @nospam.com> wrote in message
>>>news:kIdIe.48669$t43.47785@tornado.tampabay.rr.com...
>>>
>>>
>>>>Dutch wrote:
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>>>>
>>>>>"Derek" <usenet.email RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>
>>>>>[..]
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>you must be aware that animals can
>>>>>>>experience the emotion of fear.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Though it's commonly said that animals experience
>>>>>>fear, I disagree and content that they behave in a
>>>>>>way devoid of that human emotion.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Why would you adopt such a counter-intuitive
>>>>>idea? What evidence do you have to make you
>>>>>believe that what appear to be emotive states,
>>>>>accompanied by familiar physiological and
>>>>>behavioural changes, are in fact actually... nothing?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>There are all kinds of stuides of animal emotions, from a behavioral
>>>>objective, a biochecmical standpoint,
>>>>and mri views. IF you chose to ignore them because you don't want to is
>>>>ignoring objective evidence.
>>>
>>>
>>>The only real debate is related to *complex* emotions,
>>>such as jealousy, which are arguably anthropomorphic,
>>>not basic emotions per se.
>>
>>With all due respect, I don't want to get into any argument,
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> That's fine.
>
>
>>Jealousy is one of the most obvious emotions. Try having two animals and
>>give affection or food to one.
>
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> That's not necessarily jealousy. The animal sees, hears
> or smells something that triggers a positive reaction, that
> doesn't mean they are thinking anything like, "I am jealous
> of Skippy", they are more likely being attracted to the
> positive stimulus than thinking about their feelings towards
> the other animal.
>
> Yes, I agree it's debatable, that was my point. What is NOT
> debatable is that animals experience basic emotions, like fear.
> This Derek person seems to adopt positions randomly then
> attempts to defend them.
>
>
Emotions come from the oldest part of the brain.
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David Wright Sr. wrote:

> [junk]

You can't ignore me. I'm insistent, persistent and
compelling.
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Karen Winter, NAMBLA supporter, wrote:
>>> I'm not Karen
>
> And I am not.

Yes, you are. Why were you asking for prayers at ARCE?
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