Help with rescue, please

Hey, Aimee; thanks for the pedialyte formula!

Our vet uses bottle of warm water to help keep babies comfortable, too.
They tend to use gallon milk cartons or the like, which are flat-sided and
less likely to roll.

On Wed, 11 Aug 2004, Aimee S wrote:

>
> Here is a formula that you can make at home, I've used it several times
> and the kittens do really well on it.
> Also wanted to mention, I always kept hot water bottles, covered with a
> towel to keep them warm. Any kind of bottle will do, I used soda
> bottles.
>
> Okay here's the formula, I wish you the very best of luck
>
> One 12 ounce can of Evaporated Skim cows milk, One 4 ounce can
> evaporated whole cows milk, one 4 ounce container of plain yogurt and
> three egg yolks. Mix well and strain. I always give it to them warm -
> let them think it's coming right from Mom...what do they know????
> I use droppers to feed the kittens, I like them better than bottles.
>
>
> And I have found a recipe for a pedialite substitute:
>
> 4 1/4 C. Water. 2 tsp. sugar - you can add up to eight for flavor. 1/2
> tsp. salt and 1/2 tsp baking soda. This is good to have on hand for
> babies that are getting dehydrated or showing signs of URI.
>
>
>
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"Judith Umbria" <decobabe.DeleteThis@libero.it> wrote in message
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> I have searched for help on how to save a kitten about 4 weeks old whose
> mother was found dead two days ago, but have found very little that is
> useful. We didn't find the kitten until today.
> I am in Italy and there is no formula, no kitten bottle, none of the
things
> mentioned in the rescue docs online. What can I do? There are also no
> rescue organizations except in Rome, far far away.
> The poor thing won't eat from a saucer. I forced about 3 demitasse spoons
> of warmed skimmed milk down it, but it wouldn't take soaked catfood at
all.
> The emergency formulas say they won't permanently support growth... so
what
> to feed it? I do recall a vet telling me to supplement milk for weaners
> with baby food chicken or turkey, so tomorrow I can buy some.
> I cleaned it with a warm, wet cottonball. It is sitting in my lap on a
> towel because it otherwise yells continuously, but it poops as it wishes
and
> wherever it is. I tried to introduce it to a good mom cat who was related
> to its mom, but she just spat at it, as did all the other cats.
> It is thin, has a round tummy which is flaccid. It walks well, ears are
up,
> has teeth but still has a round head.
> I will be so grateful for any help at all. I cannot bear to think of the
> poor thing starving.
>
>

Other posts have covered feeding the little one. After you get him eating
and all checked out one more thing you want to do is get him using the
litter box. If he's pooping by himself he's old enough to use the box. Get a
container that he can get into (I use a Rubbermaid rectangular food storage
container for my kittens) to use for a litter box. Put him in it and scratch
his paws in the litter. At his age he may take right to it if his mom had
already started showing him the ropes. Otherwise take a warm damp papertowel
or cotton ball and gently stimulate his bum while he's in the litter box. He
should at least pee in short order. Then scratch his paws in the litter. Do
this a couple of times and I bet he gets the picture in no time.

W
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"Wendy" <wendypart.RemoveThis@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> "Judith Umbria" <decobabe.RemoveThis@libero.it> wrote in message
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> > I have searched for help on how to save a kitten about 4 weeks old whose
> > mother was found dead two days ago, but have found very little that is
> > useful. > Other posts have covered feeding the little one.

I have received several kitten glop recipes, but I cannot get all the
ingredients for any of them. There is no Karo or other corn syrup, no
evaporated milk, no Knox gelatine and only cowsmilk. What about baby
formula? Could I doctor that with leaf gelatine and mayonnaise?

After you get him eating
> and all checked out one more thing you want to do is get him using the
> litter box.

> W


I tried him immediately in the litter box, with no luck at all, but
immediately after eating the first time he pooped, and after the second had
a big pee. On me. I have so far used two dresses with this tyke.
I will persevere, and I will take him to the vet when she opens. Maybe
she'll rescue him, since she has gazillions of cats!
I thank you all for helping me out.
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>
> Looks very bad. It simply will not eat. Or drink the homemade pedialyte.
> It simply shakes its head and sends it everywhere.

Have you tried baby food? Without onions. If it is getting weak, at
this point I would try to feed it just about anything that it would
eat, maybe potted meat or something similar, they tend to love the
smell. I'm sure it's not good for their tummy(so please, nobody fuss
at me), but at the starvation point, I will try anything with a little
one. I think your biggest concern should be getting it to drink. I
found with mine, I had to wrap her in a cloth very tight so that she
couldn't wiggle, and hold them as close to flat on the belly as you
can, if necessary hold it up until you get it to take the formula,
then quickly change it's position. Once you have them wrapped up,
wait for the crying to start, then use the bottle, or whatever to drop
milk in its mouth. Once might tasted it, I had to literally take the
bottle away when she had enough.

You may have to let it play and wear itself out, I have found that
with an older kitten that has been with its mom, it is their instinct
to fight you. Check for dehydration by pinching the skin gently at
the back of its neck and pulling it away from the neck(very gently!),
if it doesn't spring right back withina second or two, the kitty is
dehydrated, forget about formula, and get as much of the pedialyte
into him as you can.

I have also known kittens of this age to greive themselves to death
because of the loss of their mother. You also do not know what it
might have been exposed to, it may have gotten something from the
mother. Sometimes there is simply nothing you can do. Definitely get
it to a vet, but if he doesn't make it, don't blame yourself. It
sound to me like you have done just about everything you can.
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"Samantha G." <snoflake241.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> >
> > Looks very bad. It simply will not eat. Or drink the homemade
pedialyte.
> > It simply shakes its head and sends it everywhere.
>
> Have you tried baby food?

Since the vet opened this morning I tried nothing other than what I had
already been doing. The kitten died at the vet. The vet said there was
never anything I could have done as it was sick from the start. It's body
temp had dropped beyond salvation in spite of the hot water bottle and
something was white, though I didn't catch what. I feel rather sorry that I
forced it now.
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Judith,

I'm so sorry to hear about your kitten. We recently lost a kitten that I
had tried so hard to save -- it was heart-wrenching.

The kitten would have been much worse off had you not rescued it. You
gave the kitten a chance, and he or she knew someone was there to help.

If you wouldn't have fed it, you would have questioned yourself later
about whether you could have save it. We just have to do our best.

Take care,

Rhonda

Judith Umbria wrote:

> "Samantha G." <snoflake241 RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>>>Looks very bad. It simply will not eat. Or drink the homemade
>>>
> pedialyte.
>
>>>It simply shakes its head and sends it everywhere.
>>>
>>Have you tried baby food?
>>
>
> Since the vet opened this morning I tried nothing other than what I had
> already been doing. The kitten died at the vet. The vet said there was
> never anything I could have done as it was sick from the start. It's body
> temp had dropped beyond salvation in spite of the hot water bottle and
> something was white, though I didn't catch what. I feel rather sorry that I
> forced it now.
>
>
>
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