HOWEDY Melissa,
"Melissa D'Ambrosio" <md042080.RemoveThis@aol.com> wrote in message
news:60776662.0405032028.2e136213@posting.google.com...
>
> Jackson is a two year old wiemeriener.
A dog is a dog.
> He is very loving and loyal but recently
> he bit a little girl.
Ooops!
> Now due to circumstances beyond my
> control I am forced to give him up.
What kinda circumstances?
> I called the weimeriener rescue
> society and they told me that they
> could not take him because he had
> bitten and that made him a liability.
INDEED. So you came here figgerin you'll
find some DOG LOVERS who'll heelp SAVE
you dog?
HOWER DOG LOVERS MURDER DOGS
LIKE YOU GOT, Melissa.
> When I asked what I should do they told
> me to put him to sleep.
That's on accHOWENT of they're DOG
LOVERS like we got here abHOWETS, Melissa.
> I cant bear the thought
Then it's just you your dog and The
Amazing Puppy Wizard.
> and would like to find him a good home.
The Amazing Puppy Wizard COULD take
another dog in HIS HOWES, but THAT'S
not what HE'S abHOWET.
It's The Amazing Puppy Wizard's job to
train you to handle and train your dog to
be SAFE and SHOWEND, NEARLY
INSTANTLY.
> He has worked with a trainer
Well THAT'S HOWE COME you're
havin problems, Melissa. Anything
these MENTALLY ILL LYING DOG
ABUSING Punk Thug Cowards do
is gonna CONtradict Nature.
> and she does not believe he is hopeless.
Oh? Your dog is SAFE already?
> he needs someone who will be able to
> work with him on his training as well as
> someone who is able to keep him active
> and give him lots of love.
He needs you to FORGET EVERY THING
you've been "taught" by your EXXXPERT
trainer who sez he needs EXXXERCISE
to control his hyperactivity.
> we live in long island and if anyone is
> interested or has any advice for me
Your dog will be good as a new born
puppy in a couple days if you study
your FREE copy of The Puppy Wizard's
FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training
Method Manual available for FREE at
http://www.doggydoright.com
> I'd really appreciate it.
LikeWIZE. Start at the begining and
do ALL of the exercises as instructed
and ask The Amazing Puppy Wizard
if you need any additional FREE heelp.
> You can contact me by e-mail at MD042080.RemoveThis@aol.com.
Here's two case histories JUST LIKE YOURS:
Val writes Monday, 6/3/02:
Well, for what it's worth, I am praising without
physical contact and she does seem to listen
better than when I would praise with it. I agree
that it is a distraction.
Anyway, no more aggressive behaviors from
her since I started the Witts End.
"MaryBeth" <marbeths.RemoveThis@NOSPAMcomcast.net> wrote in message
news:3cfcdcfb$2_8@news.teranews.com...
>
> "MaryBeth" <marbeths.RemoveThis@NOSPAMcomcast.net>
> wrote in message
>
> > Didja also see that he has 'morphed' into Valerie M.
> > Holmes ?????
>
> Note: I am not saying there isn't a VALID Valerie
> M. Holmes, but this one lives in howdy's home.
>
> MB <G>
From: Seeing Spots \(Val\) (Holmes.V@worldnet.att.net)
Subject: Re: Dear Wits End
Date: 2002-06-04 18:19:07 PST
HEY!!!
There is a Valid Valerie with a REAL Dalmatian
who is a real sweet dog with a few issues that I
am working to resolve after adopting her from a
shelter she spent 2 years in.
All I want is to get some decent help for my dog.
There is some decent stuff in Jerry's manual.
My dog has ACTUALLY been responding to
her training. The deal is you have to separate
your opinions and impressions from the guy
who is writing these posts and take from the
manual what you want.
Personally, I get a pretty good chuckle out
of the whole Jerry thing. I have to say the
guy is pretty clever, you're letting him get
under your skin.
It makes for a very amusing game I think.
I'm sure he would agree, or he wouldn't
be playing everyday.
He also wouldn't be playing if he didn't believe
that his method of training weren't valid.
Perhaps I'll learn from my mistakes, but so far,
using the Wits' End, I have gotten my dalmatian
to listen to me, to look to me for direction, to wait
for me to say when.
I have changed her from an aggressive dog
to one who is willing to please her owner,
willing to listen, willing to assume her role
in the pack.
The real Valerie M. Holmes speaking
P.s. Jerry, don't get any ideas about morphing
into me, ok?
Friday, 5/31/02:
HOWEDY Valerie,
"Valerie M. Holmes" <Holmes.V.RemoveThis@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:vVAJ8.14474$LC3.1002840@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net
....
> I recently adopted a female, spayed 3 1/2 yr old
> dalmatian from a no-kill shelter.
Nice goin.
> She spent 2 years in the shelter and naturally
> she has some socialization issues to overcome.
Naaah not naturally, anyHOWE. Kenneling for a long time
shouldn't have problems associated with it if the facility
was reasonable, and if they're not killin dogs they couldn't
be as cruel as our dog lovers janet boss john richardson
and mikey ball who gladly help dogs DIE.
> My problem is I am not quite sure HOW to tackle these
> issues. .
Don't worry about it! I got all the answers and none
of the calories. All ya got to do is agree to do anything
Jerry sez and you get the aluminum funnel hat, membership card,
secret password, secret
decoder ring, secret fan club privilidges, secret
FREE Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual,
secret FREE Wits' End Dog Training Method
member's benefits, and secret Contract Signed
In Werewoof And Elf Blood with a lifetime
GUARANTEE NEVER to have a dog behavior
problem again and your dog will ALWAYS
WANT to do as you ask.
IMPOSSIBLE? It gets EVEN BETTER! Stick around...
> 1. She is aggresive toward **ALL** other dogs,
Ooops! WE got a TOUGH problem here. I hope you're fit,
dog training is a physical skill not easily learned through
books, the written word just can't SHOW you the precise
moves necessary for commanding a dog.
Every dog is an individual, and we got to SEE the behaviors to
even GUESS what's going on with
your dog. THEN we got to formulate a training
program based on the individual dog's requirements
for physical and emotional PRESSURE and learn
the fine art of attrition and have the expertise to hurt
your dog PRECICELY, and ONLY WHEN NECESSARY.
But FIRST, a trip to the vet is in order. Any sudden changes in
behavior needs to be examined by the
veterinarian and he'll be able to give you a referral
to such an expert who knows HOWE and when to
HURT your dog properly to make it friendly or advise
you when to KILL IT TO BE FAIR.
So, tomorrow morning call your vet and make an appointment in 15
days to put your dog to sleep.
Ask him HOWE MUCH. Hang up the phone and
SPEAK TO NO ONE!!!
SAY NOTHING TILL you put that money into an
envelope with your dog's name PRINTED on it
in UPPER CASE thingys.
MAKE SURE you GO DIRECTLY TO THE BANK, SPEAK
NOTHING!, and withdraw ONLY NEW BILLS!
If you cannot obtain NEW currency KEEP GOIN!
We need CLEAN MONEY for this SACRIFICE.
When you accept this money DO NOT TOUCH!
HAVE THE TELLER PUT THE BILLS INTO THE
ENVELOPE AND SEAL IT.
ASK HER TO PRINT YOUR DOG'S NAME
ON THE BACK,
Ooops! DON'T! That's just an expression.
Hand the teller a note. DON'T SPEAK!
NOT THE FRONT. THE BACK OF THE
SACRIFICIAL ENVELOPE IN UPPER
CASE THINGY'S.
Now you can speak, but don't, nobody
will believe you. Trust me. Take the
envelope to your HOWES and put it
inside your pillow case and FORGET
ABOUT IT. Don't need that for two weeks yet.
> even dogs that have shown that they are
> willing to be submissive.
Oooops? What's that mean? I don't understand doggietalkie.
You mean she attacks other dogs, boys, girls,
puppys, all dogs? Good. That tells me we
consistency going for us to fix it.
When does she get an opportunity to have a dog cower?
> Upon sight of a dog, she lunges and snarls.
O.K., that's GOOD! That tells me we can
probably break the lunging in a few minutes
of work. Maybe five, but we'll need to repeat
it a few times to generalize the idea.
And we'll need to do a little work to learn to
handle her properly, maybe an hour over
several 15 minute sessions and a half dozen
5 minute sessions. I hope your ciphering is
keepin up with us.
> 2. She is usually kind and affectionate
> toward her owner (me),
Well, usually? I don't like usually. I like always,
consistent, 100%, that's what's good. Always
consistent. Consistent behaviors change to
other, often seemingly un related, consistent
behaviors.
Dogs like consistency too, but not repression.
You'll see.
> but recently began turning sour
Ooops! That's good. That tells me the rest of
the problem is as I thought, JUST a little
mishandling. I'll teach you every thing you
need to know. We're about half way
done training aready. WATCH!
> and for no apparent reason
All problem dog behaviors are a PREDICTABLE
direct result of our ineffective and inappropriate
responses to our dog's innate normal natural
instinctive reflexive responses to circumstances
of their environment WE create for them.
I'll teach you HOWE to train yourself to respond
differently to your dog's instinctive reflexes to you,
which will cause your dog to reflex differently to
your CONDITIONED reflexive responses and
interactions towards him, compelling him
to NATURALLY WANT to do EVERY THING
you ask, cause THAT'S THE NATURE OF
THE BEAST.
Once YOU have learned proper handling techniques
and appropriate non physical control through conditioned
distraction and praise *(ABOUT 2 HRS WORK, maybe
less,) you'll be able to negotiate any obstacle LIKE
MAGICK, relying on scientific conditioning and desensitization
techniques and demonstrated self
control as explained in our Contract.. err, your
FREE Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual
available for FREE at
http://www.doggydoright.com .
Ahem.
Unless you got that one in a BAZILLION dog that's
gonna throw Jerry the dew claw. Don't let that happen.
I'll work you through the whole process and you'll see
results tommorow.
You'll have the behavior in pretty good shape
in a week, and in about ten days we should be
ready to start introducing her to a couple select
dogs in about fifteen minutes of work and then
we'll repeat that again a couple times and again
with a couple moore dogs and then we'll be
ready to start with the first dog again for the off
lead introduction and you're DONE.
Oooops! PROBLEMO. My arithmetic sez we're gonna
need a couple moore days to work this introduction
business till the aggression is thouroghly and permenantely
extinguished. If we break our Contract,
I'm err, shall we say OUTTA HERE FOREVER?
Of course I could handle this a lot faster in person
myself cause I can control you and your dog to insure
the result, so nobody's got to do nothin noHOWE,
but speak when I ask, and hush as I speak and relish
each word like candy you'd eat, and jump when I say,
ask HOWE HIGH and salute, and tout tributes to
Jerry's manual whenever you open your mouth...
That's all. Oh, and one other thing... I hope you don't
faint at the sight of blood. WE got to sign a contract.
HOWE MUCH do you want this dog to turn out
PERFECT in about two weeks? I'm willing to...shall
we say STAKE my ahahahahahaaaa, life on it???
BWWWWAHAHAHAAAA!!!
> and...
And NUTHIN. I REBUKE YOU IN THE NAME
OF SATAN, DOG LOVER!!!
You'll do as I say and dance when I speak...and sing
for your breakfast and beg for your treat ...I'll stop at
at nuthin to save your dog's life, include sell the souls
of my dog and my wife, to prove there's no way to make
a dog lover right. I'll go with The Devil to save our dog's
lives, I'll fight tooth and nail with guns and with knives,
I'm droppin the hammer on dog trainer's careers,
and takin their eye teeth along with their rears. They
been jerkin and chokin the life outta dogs and now I
got them all by their balls in my jaws...
Now go ahead and pinch my ears..., or just
make me laugh.
I just told you we figured out your dog's problem.
> snarls toward me!
Big deal. She won't do that noMOORE once
you learn to handle her like any of my students.
> This has completely destroyed the trust
What trust? The trust established with your
choke collar and corrections?
Don't worry about a thing. WE got a
CONTRACT. Remember?
> we were building over the past month.
BWWWWAJJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAAAAA!!!
Got me laughin in Spanish and I don't even speak
Spanish.
> 3. She deals with visitors,
Deals? Sounds tentative. She's just a little shy. Don't
worry about it. I'm the only game in town. I got the deal
and Jerry don't make no deals... Well not no moore,
since I'm temporarily HOWETA... mmm, currency.
Jerry don't compromise with dog lovers who prefer to
hurt and kill dogs than spend a couple hours trying to show the
dog HOWE to live instead of forcing IT to
choose the degree of pain it prefers to tolerate in
between spurts of life, anxiety, and repression.
> but is very anxious around people she doesn't know.
Shy. The anxiety is a result of punishment for being
aggressive cause she's shy, or maybe just from back
when a puppy jumpin up onto a guest and gettin kneed
in the chest or toes stepped on or alphaphalpha rolled
and growled into their throat pr just SCRUFF SHAKE
and screamed NO for 5 seconds or chin CHUKED and
bit on the ears till they piss themselves or jerked and
choked on a pronged spiked pinch choke collar or
burned with a medical grade static like stimulation device
or containment system like our dog lovers at k9 web and
cindy "don't let the dog SCREAM" mooron recommend TO ENHANCE THE
BOND between 'trainer' and dog.
Our traditional training methods are what's making
your dog turn on you for hurting and scaring her during
her meetings with other dogs. Our pal lying "I LOVE
KOEHLER" lynn and janet boss recommend pronged
spiked pinch choke and shock and citronella collars
for training this kind of dog... and they'd rather not put
IT through all that when there's SO MANY dogs that
are deserving of their HELP. And then they'll deny
it, despite it's archived FOREVER.
You see where WE're goin with all this? WATCH.
> At first she would scream if a stranger petted
> her with 2 hands.
I'd probably come real close to dropping the
hammer on them myself. My dogs will bite
you if a stranger meeting us put their hands
on us in a restraining manner. We don't like that.
Trust me. Strangers touching us means we got
to run and find an adult or a policeman. RIGHT?
Either that or...
> I just don't trust her around anyone yet.
Me too. I never trust a dog. I only trust my training methods and
then we don't got to worry about what
the heel the dog cares... who the heel's the
goddamned trainer, you or the dog?
THE DOG!
You got to TRAIN YOURSELF to reflex to his
needs properly and then he'll reflex to his natural
instinct and be able to use his dog skills as part
of your family pack, equally with you and the other
family members.
Every thing you've been taught about handling your dog
is DEAD WRONG and your dog is prima facia evidence
in Jerry's Giiihhhaaad against the dog behavior industry
for bringing us every dog behavior problem we've got.
> 4. She lunged at my sisters 2 year old
$#!T! You're gonna try and make this hard for
me aren't ya, pullin the fear/guilt double high
card trump tryin to make Old Jerry roll over
and piss himself with the 2 yo kid card???
NOTHIN DOIN! Get the heel outta here!
IN THE NAME OF SATAN I REBUKE YOU,
DOG LOVERS!!!
> the same way she lunged toward other
> dogs, aggressively.
Duh-Oh! Spooooookey!!!
BWWWAAAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!
> I really really like this dog,
THAT'S GREAT! I do too. I like all dogs on general principle and
individual dogs on merit and don't like
nobody no moore than me...and mine. You got your
copy of The Contract?
Don't worry about nuthin. Me an mine are
comin through this alive... sort of, in a sense.
> when she is calm and able to relax.
Vs what? I would like to know when she's not
calm and able to relax... tell us what she's doin.
THOSE are the anxiety relief mechanisms WE
need to deal with so I can fulfill OUR Contract
and... finish you off, and that little dog too!
> I want to keep her,
LIKEWISE. WE got a long term Contract.
Haven't we?
> but I don't really know what the best way
> to establish the necessary trust.
Yeah, as a matter of fact we got EXPERTS
here. Let me INTRODUCE you around?
> Any ideas out there?
Yeah. Our dog lovers were just on their way to
another forum. Weren't you, dog lovers?
We'll introduce our new found friends later.
Right now our OP's got some studying to do
before she has an accident cause she won't
know HOWE to handle her lead to stop
triggering her dog to pull if she's wastin
time with dog abusers who jerk and choke
dogs.
That's moore then half of what gets IT angry.
Now if this sounds too unbelievable I'll just up the ante.
I'll PAY YOU $10.00 / hr to study with me, IF YOU FAIL.
Call or write for details and agreement: 1 888 WITSEND. Jerry.
j;~)
Nevyn writes:
Jerry I cannot even begin to tell you the success Ive
had with your training manual! My two mutts have
gone from out-of-control psychos to obedient well
behaved companions within a matter of weeks! AND
My friends have seen the success and have asked
me to work on their dogs!
I was working with a 5 month old Ridgeback female
today and she was being an angel after like an hour
of working with her! it is AMAZING!!
I pity those fools who take their dogs to classes where
the "Trainers" abuse their dogs! (do they have a degree?
A masters? a Phd? by the way? NO they are average joes
off the street who think they know how to train dogs!)
Once again, Jerry, you are a genius!
NEVYN and my Dogs, Rizzo and Midget, My Grandparents
dogs, Dusty and Snoopy, and my friends pup, Jazz.
================
Never give out your password or credit card number in an
instant message conversation.
Nevyn says:
hello Jerry.
Jerry says:
HOWEDY Nevyn
Nevyn says:
How are you?
Jerry says:
sup?
Nevyn says:
Oh nothing
Nevyn says:
My dogs are alot better now!
Jerry says:
fine
Jerry says:
tell me
Nevyn says:
I can walk them on or off the leash and they don't give a #@%
about other
dogs
Jerry says:
naah
Nevyn says:
I can let them inside and they wont eat the cats
Jerry says:
naah
Nevyn says:
Yup
Jerry says:
what did you do, buy a shock collar?
Nevyn says:
No
Nevyn says:
Praised them
Jerry says:
ahh!
Jerry says:
you think they're 100% better
Nevyn says:
'cept they still bark at the neighbour but only coz he swears
at them and
pours water on them
Nevyn says:
nahh they still have stinky breath!
Nevyn says:
muahaha
Jerry says:
ok
Jerry says:
I'll go for that
Jerry says:
it'll take a couple more days to break the neighbor thing if
you're
consistent
Jerry says:
then he won't swear and throw water at them
Nevyn says:
yeah but he's only out on the weekends
Jerry says:
but they'll still have stinky breath
Nevyn says:
muahahaha
Jerry says:
you gonna write the group and tell them they're suckin hind
teat?
Nevyn says:
eh
Nevyn says:
nah
Nevyn says:
cant
Nevyn says:
my news server isn't workin
Nevyn says:
how about u just screenshot or copy this chat and post it
Jerry says:
why not.
Nevyn says:
sorry been tryin all day to get on the news server
Jerry says:
you got anything you'd like to tell the dog lovers who would
prefer
to see you choke and shock and lock your dogs in a box?
Jerry says:
I guess you don't want to tell them nuthin that they don't
already know,
huh?
Nevyn says:
hah
Nevyn says:
tell them they're fuckers who need to die
Nevyn says:
dogs aren't for abusing they are for loving they love so much
Jerry says:
that's HOWE COME they got me now
Jerry says:
howe much training time did it take for the two of 'em?
Nevyn says:
pfftt
Nevyn says:
it didn't even seem like training
Nevyn says:
its been 24 days since I got your manual
Jerry says:
pfffttt!!!!
Jerry says:
hhahahahaha
Jerry says:
have you got that feeling that they're in tune with EVERYTHING
you're
wanting them to do?
Jerry says:
I forgot what city you're in.
Jerry says:
maybe if you're near alphalpha sweeny you can swing by and
LAUGH your ass
off at him growling at his dogs???
Jerry says:
BWWWHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!
Nevyn says:
LOL
Nevyn says:
I'm in Perth, Australia!
Nevyn says:
and yes they do seem to be in tune
=====================
Nevyn says:
oh!! the other day my dogs went into submissive position when
a tiny little toy poodle came up barking at them! !LOL
Jerry says:
EXCELLENT!
Nevyn says:
lol
Jerry says:
they knew they didn't need to fight, cause everything was in
your expert control.
Keep up the good work. j;~)
-----------------
From: Nevyn (alien4@wasp.net.au)
Date: 2002-03-01 03:15:50 PST
Hello
I have two mungrel females; the breeds exactly
are Blue Heeler (spots) x Kelpi (dominant genes)
x American Pitbull (behavioural) x Pug (don't laugh!).
They are gentle loving dogs when I'm at home
with them, and they are friendly with unknown
people. They are sisters. One is obviously dominant
over the other, and I don't have a problem with that,
however;
Their behaviour is very odd. Some days they
are very good whilst I'm walking them, some
days they are not. They are 3 years old and
have only been walking for about 12 months
because my mom didn't walk them and now
I'm home so I walk them for about an hour
and half every afternoon. I take them to the
park where they chase birds and swim in the lake.
This is my problem :
The less-dominant dog viscously barks at
every other dog we walk past; I have tried
using a stick and giving her a tap when
she does it, and treating her with treats
when she doesn't, using a choke chain,
a muzzle and a thing that sprays stuff
in her mouth when she barks.
She won't stop! Does anyone know how I can stop her? ]
Also, the more-dominant dog seems to know
this is WRONG, when the other dog barks,
she doesn't bark, but she nips at the other
dog as if telling her to cut it out, and then
the barking one attacks the more-dominant
one and they fight on the leash... it is
quite disturbing to the people walking past.
And also the more-dominant one is okay around other
dogs... SOMETIMES... sometimes she completely ignores
them, and yet other times she will attack them, like yesterday.
The less dominant one I must keep on a
leash if a person brings there dog to the park.
How do I stop them attacking other dogs?
I have tried all the methods I have used
above for 10 months every afternoon.
Is it just a pack-behaviour thing?
It can really be quite embarrassing when your
dogs attack some old lady's or little girl's dog.
They are good dogs, when at home or when
there are no other dogs around. Today there
were hundreds of sparrows flying around the
park and they were chasing them and jumping
up trying to catch them for more than 90 minutes
(They went straight to bed when I bought them home!).
Can anyone help me? Email me at my emails
address, alien4.RemoveThis@wasp.net.au coz this list is
tooo crowded.
Thanks,
Nevyn
The Puppy Wizard. <{}; ~ ) >
MaryBeth, QUEEN OF THE RPD* MENTALLY
ILL ALLSTARS MENTAL ILLNESS IN RPD*
Mental illness is a public issue in these newsgroups.
People are always running around calling other people
mentally ill and diagnosing their illnesses. I think it's
only fair that we have an accurate list of who is and who
isn't mentally ill, so that we can avoid any misunderstandings
and promote group harmony.
MaryBeth
MVP (most valuable psycho)
Has contributed greatly to the annual profit
results at several large pharmaceutical corps
has taken virtually every mentally ill (crazy)
drug treatment in the book, and then some:
prozac, zoloft, amitryptiline, Buspar, Xanax,
effexor, paxil, HRT, wellbutrin, tranquilizers,
clomid, has suffered from or been:
suicidal, agoraphobic, tidal waves of
PMS, mood swings, turned into a hermit,
bloated, just real angry, hubby afraid of
her, high blood pressure, divorced,
"raving bitch" "zoloft zombie" for four
years, "living through layers and layers
of gauze," chain smoker, buzzing, weight
gain, fatigue, terrible dry mouth, dull
headaches, fuzzy brain, lack of
concentration..etc.
severe depression, severe insomnia, Panic
ALL the time, crying, not sleeping, you
name it...etc...
MaryBeth (on being seriously f'd in the head
aka mentally ill) aka cuckoo! kuckoo! ding! ding! ding!
aka a superpsychotic bitch from hell
"I know for a fact I went thru years of
being overly sensitive, being a b*tch,
being self centered, being self pitying,
you name it, I was a wreck and I ran over
everyone in my path."
"<G> I do know the power of meds,
especially on a long term basis, and it's
not pretty. You become another person, if
it's not the correct med for you.
--All the best,
MaryBeth
"Yup Diane, I am taking Zoloft, and my
Rheumatologist told me that taking
Ultram with it can cause seizures."
"I have all the symptoms.I am suicidal at
times (cyclical) have severe insomnia,
'crawly' skin etc. I have an appt to see
my doc next Friday to test for
menopause."
--MaryBeth
"I noticed that antidepressants cut
libido into the dead zone and I had no
real emotions, like not laughing at funny
stuff, couldn't cry either.....except
about my suicidal thoughts (but at the
time I thought there was no other way out)."
--MaryBeth
"Hi, new to group, just starting Clomid
today. I talked with RE and pharmacist
re: zoloft (50 mg daily) and ineraction
with Clomid.
They reported none. Not sure about the
prozac tho. Gonna poat a new message to
intorduce myself :)"
--MaryBeth <still feeling like herself>
<G>
"I wasted about 10 years of my life, and
lost many many treasured ppl and things.
Please don't do the same.
(((((((SCOUT))))))))))
--MaryBeth
"Slowly but surely my depression got worse
and worse. They put me on meds for it, and
all along kept telling me to wait on the
TKR, as 'it really wasn't that
bad.....yet". HA!" The depression got so
bad, and lots of other
things happened and my ex and I would up
divorced four years after our move. It was
horrible. The hardest thing I have eve
gone thru"
--MaryBeth
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