Help with German Shephard

HOWEDY Bill,

"Bill Zimmerman" <wazimmerman DeleteThis @adelphia.net> wrote in message
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> Hi
>
> Our 6 month old German shepherd male puppy is showing
> aggressive behavior toward our 2 sons. They are 19 and 21.

All behavior problems are caused by mishandling, Bill.

> He will bark at the sound of our older son moving around in
> his room in the basement of our home.

That should take a couple minutes to extinguish.

> While barking he will also back away as if he is afraid.

Right. All aggression is fear.

> We have tried yanking on his choke chain

To teach him to be confident?

> and correcting him

Hurting and intimidating dogs is not correcting nuthin,
it's being a dog abuser.

> as advised by his breeder,

Well, you learned the hard way. You ready for MOORE of
the same or are you ready to get off the elevator?

> but he still carries on with the barking.

Takes MINUTES. Maybe LESS. WithHOWET HURTIN noWON.

> He will let our son get close to him and pet him, and while
> he has never bitten him, we are concerned.

That's pretty bad.

> He is doing somewhat better with our younger son, since he is
> around him more. The strange thing is that he doesn't show any
> sign of this behavior around any other males.

That's probably cause other males don't make suspiciHOWES
noises that cause him to get jerked and choked as taught to
you by your ethickal breeder.

> We have taken him around other family members and their dogs,
> and to the pet store with no problems. He is fine with other
men
> that come to the house and he is fine with my wife and our 17
year
> old daughter.

Well, he's only six months and you've got your hands full
cause you've been given bad information from your breeder.

> He was raised for the first 6 months by a single 60ish woman,
> who decided he was too much for her.

Where was the ethickal breeder when the lady had trHOWEBLE
with this pup? She just took the dog off her hands?

> He is a good dog otherwise, seems to be pretty intelligent and
> eager to learn.

Yeah. Too bad you've been given bad advice abHOWET him.

> We don't know how to correct this behavior

Well, you're in EXXXCELLENT company here abHOWETS.

> and are open to suggestions.

You won't be gettin no goddamned suggestions from HOWER
dog abuser liars and mental cases, Bill. You been readin HOWER
forums?

> Thanks

"Charlie Wilkes" <charlie_wilkes DeleteThis @easynews.com> wrote in message
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>
> I read through his manual and tried the techniques
> on my puppy, who looked like growing up to be a
> mean-assed dog like her daddy.
>
> Guess what? It worked.
>
> More forceful methods might have allowed me
> to control her, but I don't think I'd have the
>
> - exquisitely gentle -
>
> and well-behaved dog I do now.
>
> Charlie

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"Charlie Wilkes" <charlie_wilkes DeleteThis @easynews.com> wrote in message
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> I read up on rotties, pitbulls, etc., and quite a bit of the
> literature suggested I needed to assert my dominance
> and "make the dog earn everything it gets." I tried this
> once or twice, just by taking a stern tone of voice, and
> the results were terrible.
>
> The pup got scared and just wanted to stay away from me.
> That's why I support Jerry Howe and his FREE Wits'
> End Dog Training manual -- that and the fact that
> Jerry is an all-around great guy.
> The core takeaway I got from Jerry's manual is this:
> make yourself the center of your puppy's world -- his
> personal Lord Jesus.
>
> Never give him a reason to fear you or think you're angry.
>
> Love the heck out of him, and you'll end up with a great dog.
>
> This has truly worked with my puppy. She'll do anything I want
> her to, if she understands, because she trusts me 100 percent,
> and nothing is more important in her world than her relationship
> with me. http://www.geocities.com/viscouspuppy
> Charlie

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<"Terri"@cyberhighway

> Hey, do like me, and killfile Jerry.
> He has millions of people aleady reading his posts and
> watching him extract his soggy foot out of his mouth!
> Out of these MILLIONS, I've only seen 2 naive childs
> come forward and actually believe in his training manual.

Robert Crim writes:

I assume that I and my wife are those two naive childs
since I freely admit to having read and, I hope,
understood enough of the manual and it's counterparts by
John Fisher and the posts of Marilyn Rammell to believe
and use it.

This naive child would like to say thank you to both
Jerry and Marilyn for putting up with a constant barrage
of really infantile crap at the hands of supposedly
adult dog lovers.

The other naive child (LSW) has to put up with the
nagging idea that if people like them had been posting
earlier, maybe we would not have had to hold the head
of a really magnificent animal in our arms while he was
given the needle and having to hug him and wait until he
gasped his last gasp.

To my mind, "naive" is believing you can terrorize a dog
into good behavior. Naive is believing that people that
hide behind fake names are more honest than people that
use their real names. Naive is thinking that dilettante
dog breeders and amateur "trainers" like Joey
(lyingdogDUMMY, j.h.) are the equal or better than
those that have studied and lived by their craft for
decades.

"Stupid" is believing that people do not see kindergarten
level insults for what they are. Really stupid is believing
that people like Jerry Howe and Marilyn Rammell are
going to just go away because you people act like fools.

Why do you act like fools? I really have no idea, and I
don't really care.

> And, to date: I've not seen ONE come forward and
> actually admit to buying and having success with his
> little black box.

I think I'm going to get one myself for Father's day and
take it down to the Animal Shelter for their use and
testing. You would never believe the results, so you'll
never know.

> Anyone by now that doesn't see a scam man coming by
> Jerry's posts deserves to get what is sure to be coming
> to him! LOL!

I don't see a "scam man", so I guess I and Longsuffering
Wife and Rollei will just have to get what we deserve,
eh? As Joey (Dogman) says, "poor Rollei.".......right.

>Terri

Yes it was, and that is sad.

Robert, Longsuffering Wife and Rollei (do I get to
listen to the box first?)

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HOWEDY egd,

"EGD" <emailnotworking.RemoveThis@news.net> wrote in message
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> Sort of interesting Bill.

That so?

> Is there anything about your son which somehow spooks him?

Yeah. That jerking and choking his breeder told him to do.

> Does he wear a hat -

No, he wears a choke collar.

> some dogs are wierd about certain hats.

That so? MOORE dogs are WEIRD abHOWET GETTIN CHOKED.

> I had a dog who hated one particular friend. Turned out it was
> his cowboy hat. Hat removed - dog greeted him happily.

INDEED? You think Bill's dog wears a cowboy hat?

> Does he appear suddenly from the door to the basement as
> opposed to those who might knock at the front door and be
> greeted as friends by you?

Perhaps the boys should slip HOWET the window and
come rHOWEND to the front door and ring the bell when
they want to raid the fridge in the middle of the nite?

> Consider anything that makes him very different from your other
son.

Perhaps Bill's son doesn't wear a cowboy hat?

> Does he carry a brief case or guitar or something which spooks
the dog?

That's probably it!

> I'm really grasping at straws here

Yeah. Every dog is different, you know.

> but there are many things which could be the problem.

RIGHT! Perhaps there's a sqeeky stair or door hinge?

> Is he tall and bends "over" the dog when trying to make friends?

You suppose it might be the jerking and choking when he barks?

> Dog's often don't like this.

Right. Dogs HATE being jerked and choked.

> Does he "like" the dog?

Did your friend who wore the hat like your dog?

> Would he be willing to take over the dog's feeding,

You think havin someWON he's SCARED OF giving him
his breakfast is gonna make IT feel comfortable?

> walking, complete care etc. for a while.

That's got NUTHIN to do with the problem. I'm still thinkin
the dog is wearin a cowboy hat and THAT'S the problem.

> Does the dog spend any time in the basement with your son?

Perhaps he should take off his hat in the HOWES?

>That might help.

INDEED.

> Could even be that somewhere during his life he had a bad
> experience with someone very like your son.

You think maybe a guitar carrying non hat wearing youth
startled his mom while he was in gestation?

> Can't be much more help with this

Well, you couldn't be much LESS help either.

> but something else might come to me and
> others will probably also have ideas.

Good thinkin. Work on that cowboy hat idea. Perhaps it's a gang
sign?

> Funny little creatures these dogs.

INDEEDY. Funny HOWE they react HOWETA FEAR over NUTHIN.

> They get ideas in their heads and it's up
> to us to try to sort them out and understand.

Right. Bill's breeder told him to jerk and choke his dog
to heelp sort HOWET and undersand his fears.

> Make sure that you are not contributing to the dog's worry over
your son,

RIGHT. Wouldn't want him to worry.

> by treating him differently

You mean, like by not makin him take off his
hat in the HOWES and jerking and choking him?

> when your son appears as opposed to when others are around him.

Right. But this only seems to happen when the dog's wearin
a cowboy hat as a gang sign.

> Your unwitting nervousness would be quite apparent to the dog

You think so?

> who would then have his ideas about your son confirmed in his
mind.

You don't SUPPOSE the JERKING and CHOKING might have
sumpthin to do with this?

> EGD

Perhaps someWON will have MOORE ideas. Perhaps Bill
can give us MOORE details. I think we need MOORE information.

Don't you?

The Puppy Wizard. <{ ; ~ ) >


> "Bill Zimmerman" <wazimmerman.RemoveThis@adelphia.net> wrote in message
> news:zgOxb.19$oe4.32931@news2.news.adelphia.net...
> > Hi
> >
> > Our 6 month old German shepherd male puppy is showing
aggressive behavior
> > toward our 2 sons. They are 19 and 21. He will bark at the
sound of our
> > older son moving around in his room in the basement of our
home. While
> > barking he will also back away as if he is afraid. We have
tried yanking
> on
> > his choke chain and correcting him as advised by his breeder,
but he still
> > carries on with the barking. He will let our son get close to
him and pet
> > him, and while he has never bitten him, we are concerned. He
is doing
> > somewhat better with our younger son, since he is around him
more. The
> > strange thing is that he doesn't show any sign of this
behavior around any
> > other males. We have taken him around other family members and
their dogs,
> > and to the pet store with no problems. He is fine with other
men that
> come
> > to the house and he is fine with my wife and our 17 year old
daughter.
> He
> > was raised for the first 6 months by a single 60ish woman, who
decided he
> > was too much for her. He is a good dog otherwise, seems to be
pretty
> > intelligent and eager to learn. We don't know how to correct
this
> behavior
> > and are open to suggestions. Thanks
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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"Bill Zimmerman" <wazimmerman DeleteThis @adelphia.net> wrote in message
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> Hi
>
> Our 6 month old German shepherd male puppy is showing aggressive behavior
> toward our 2 sons. They are 19 and 21. He will bark at the sound of our
> older son moving around in his room in the basement of our home. While
> barking he will also back away as if he is afraid. We have tried yanking
on
> his choke chain and correcting him as advised by his breeder, but he still
> carries on with the barking. He will let our son get close to him and pet
> him, and while he has never bitten him, we are concerned. He is doing
> somewhat better with our younger son, since he is around him more. The
> strange thing is that he doesn't show any sign of this behavior around any
> other males. We have taken him around other family members and their dogs,
> and to the pet store with no problems. He is fine with other men that
come
> to the house and he is fine with my wife and our 17 year old daughter.
He
> was raised for the first 6 months by a single 60ish woman, who decided he
> was too much for her. He is a good dog otherwise, seems to be pretty
> intelligent and eager to learn. We don't know how to correct this
behavior
> and are open to suggestions. Thanks
>
>
>

- Yanking him when he is barking at your son might not be such a good
idea that might agitate him more. The best thing will be for your son to
ignore the dog when he comes in and continue ignoring him, by that I mean no
looking at, no speaking to or touching the dog until he calms down. It will
be best if you ignore the dog too. Let the dog be until he seeks contact
with your son. When he seeks contact your son can pet him. A good thing will
be for your son to have a pocket full of treats to give your dog when he
behaves good, as in no barking, no acting out. When your dog has gotten a
bit more comfortable around your son it will be good if your son could do
something with him that he likes, like playing fetch, going for a walk etc.
Your dog sounds lovely and I am sure he will come around and that you have
nothing to worry about. he just needs to get to know your son and be
comfortable around him.

Lone
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"Bill Zimmerman" <wazimmerman.RemoveThis@adelphia.net> wrote in message news:<zgOxb.19$oe4.32931@news2.news.adelphia.net>...
> Hi
>
> Our 6 month old German shepherd male puppy is showing aggressive behavior
> toward our 2 sons. They are 19 and 21. He will bark at the sound of our
> older son moving around in his room in the basement of our home.

I know of no breed that goes through as extreme a developmental fear
period (usually at 7-9 months) as GSDs. The sound of unknown activity
is probably what is setting him off, rather than anything about your
sons. Don't force him to confront his fears right now. Ignore him or
laugh at him to tell him that this is a perfectly normal activity and
nothing to be upset about. Chances are good that it will go way as
quickly as it began.

Lynn K.
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HOWEDY looney toons,

"Lone Hansen" <lone DeleteThis @zorland.remove.this.bit.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Bill Zimmerman" <wazimmerman DeleteThis @adelphia.net> wrote in message
> news:zgOxb.19$oe4.32931@news2.news.adelphia.net...
> > Hi
> >
> > Our 6 month old German shepherd male puppy is showing
aggressive behavior
> > toward our 2 sons. They are 19 and 21. He will bark at the
sound of our
> > older son moving around in his room in the basement of our
home. While
> > barking he will also back away as if he is afraid. We have
tried yanking on
> > his choke chain and correcting him as advised by his breeder,
but he still
> > carries on with the barking.
>
> - Yanking him when he is barking at your son might not be
> such a good idea that might agitate him more.

You think so, looney toons? What do you do when your
dogs do that? You scold and intimidate and lock them
in a box, don't you?

> The best thing will be for your son to ignore the dog
> when he comes in and continue ignoring him,

Don't you think that's RUDE, looney toons?

> by that I mean no looking at, no speaking to or touching
> the dog until he calms down.

That might make the dog MOORE mistrustful.

> It will be best if you ignore the dog too.

You can't ignore a dangerHOWES behavior problem
and not expect it to get worse, looney toons. Tell us
all abHOWET the many incidents where your two
dogs have done the same same, even bitten innocent
kids, the vet, your SO, and others, looney toons? Did
you IGNORE your dogs when they was attackin people?

> Let the dog be until he seeks contact with your son.

The dog is aggressive.

> When he seeks contact your son can pet him.

He'll probably get bit.

> A good thing will be for your son to have a pocket full of
> treats to give your dog when he behaves good,

Bribing dogs makes them suspiciHOWES. Dogs are SCAVENGERS.
They steal scraps of food and run to hide to eat it with their
backs
to the wall in a heightened state of alert.

Is that what you WANT?

> as in no barking, no acting out.

Offering the treat is bHOWEND to start him up again.

> When your dog has gotten a bit more comfortable around your son

It's been a couple months and it ain't gettin no goddamned better,
looney toons. What's gonna change? OLD AGE? The dog's gonna
get too old to bark at his kids and then they can pat IT?

> it will be good if your son could do something with him that he
likes,

Oh? You mean, sumpthin like not gettin bit?

> like playing fetch, going for a walk etc.

The dog ain't interested, looney toons. The dog barks
at his son, looney toons.

> Your dog sounds lovely

His dog is gettin jerked and choked on the advice of
his ethickal breeder and is assaulting his kids and is
probably gonna GET DEAD in a couple weeks.

> and I am sure he will come around and that you have
> nothing to worry about.

Your dog bit a child and you didn't worry abHOWET it.

> he just needs to get to know your son and be
> comfortable around him.

Kinda like your dogs need to do likeWIZE?

> Lone

You're a dog abuse and a MENTAL CASE.

The Puppy Wizard. <} ; ~ ) >

Date: 2003-11-23 16:22:38 PST


HOWEDY looney toons,

"Lone Hansen" <lone DeleteThis @zorland.remove.this.bit.net> wrote in message
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> "Michelle V." <shelby73 DeleteThis @nocomcastspam.net> wrote in message
> news:bAAub.242620$Tr4.719477@attbi_s03...
>
> > Havent heard any updates on Picnic lately? Hows he doing?

Nuthin's changed, you can be SHORE of that. looney toons
has had the same same same same problems with Ezra for
three years goin.

> > Shells
> - Well lets see.

This oughta be preciHOWES.

> He is still here,

INDEED. You wouldn't DUMP a dog who needs you SO.

> Morten has changed his name to Sonny(was also called Sonic
> at the rescue). He hasn't gotten his shots yet as he bit the vet
> and Morten when he was at the vet to have them done :

Yeah... HOWE abHOWET that.

> ( And no the muzzle didn't help as
> he bit Morten when he was about to put it on.....

BWEEEAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!

That's gotta be FUN for a hemopheliac.

> Morten hasn't held his end of the deal up as he has
> done NO training what so ever,

That's good. He probably woulda got bit harder if he had
been "trainin" him.

> I have so far stayed out of it,

Good for you! You're a dog abuser. That's HOWE COME
your dogs are screwed up. Your dog Ezra has bitten several
people, including a child.

> as he was the one who wanted to keep him,

Yeah.

> and hence he is his responsibility, but I can see from it that
> I will have to give in and start to work with him if I want a
dog
> that I can live with,

Like Ezra? Ezra has been HOWETA control since day WON.

> although I have taught him to sit and stay for his dinner(didn't
> want an arm ripped of)

BWEEEAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!

> He hasn't tried to bite me for a long time now,

Good for you!

> The VOICE seems to have made an impact on him.

You mean, INTIMIDATING him? Perhaps THAT'S HOWE COME
he bit the vet and Morten?

> He has horrible manners as in going on tables after
> food and trying to take the food right of your plate,

Who? Morten or the dog?

> pushing him away or shutting him out of the room doesn't help,

Of curse not. That's HOWE COME he has terrible manners
and is HOWETA control. He copies you.

> Ezra does keep him away from my plate...

Lucky thing your dog is guarding your plate for you.

> it has become her mission in life to guard my plate (bless her
little heart)

That's IDIOCY.

> Sonny is also food aggressive

INDEED? "Food aggression" means the dog is AFRAID you'll
STEAL IT from him. He's INSECURE.

> which means that once he has gotten a hold of something I
> can't take it away form him without getting bitten.

Yeah: "The VOICE seems to have made an impact on him."

> Though generally he isn't bad about taking stuff as long as I
keep
> an eye on him and manage to stop him before he gets it.

Seems like the VOICE seems to have made an impact on him.

> Ezra and Sonny have their battles,

IMAGINE? From such a peacable HOWEshold as yours/

> often with me caught in the middle like on walks, so far more
> noise than damage.

You're a hero.

> Ezra is good about backing out when I tell her so breaking
> it up is easy I just have to call her.

The VOICE seems to have made an impact on him.

> Thanks heaven for the training I have done with her.

BWEEEEAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!!

The VOICE seems to have made an impact on him.

That's HOWE COME your dogs are HOWETA CONTROL.

> Sonny loooves to get his ears rubbed, if I find the right
spot and apply
> the right amount of pressure he moans and is about to faint also
he loves a
> good belly rub.

That's MOORE information than we need to know...

> So he can also be a big goofy lovable guy. He seems happy,
> he smiles and does the happy dance a lot especially around
> meal and walk time, although he is awful when it is walk time.

That "happy dance" is ANXIETY. Your dog is food aggressive
and pulls on leash. You HURT and INTIMIDATE him for those
issues. THAT'S HOWE COME he does that "happy dance."

> He barks, and barks, and barks and barks

Barking is a SYMPTOM of ANXIHOWESNESS.

> from the moment I make walk preparations till we step out of
> the door.... that is driving me crazy.

Try screamin NO at IT: "The VOICE seems to have made an
impact on him." "Thanks heaven for the training I have done with
her."

> He also barks, and barks, and barks, and barks at fireworks

Fear of LHOWED noises is caused by MISHANDLING.

> and since we have had fireworks going of non stop for a month
> now, we have had one dog barking and running around the
> house non stop... not funny to live with.

The VOICE seems to have made an impact on him."
"Thanks heaven for the training I have done with her."

> I hope that in time he will be more relaxed.

The VOICE seems to have made an impact on him."
"Thanks heaven for the training I have done with her."

> Lone


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Mental illness is a public issue in these newsgroups.
People are always running around calling other people
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lyinglynn writes to a new foster care giver:
For barking in the crate - leave the leash on and
pass it through the crate door. Attach a line to it.
When he barks, use the line for a correction.

- if necessary, go to a citronella bark collar.

Lynn K.

> ================
>
>>lynn kosmakos (Lithium, Zoloft, bipolar, manic,
>> depression) will "put down a biter
>> as fast as anyone" yet claims to
>> be a saintly dog rescuer
>>Lynn K. wrote:
>>
>>"I used to work the Kill Room as a volunteer in
>>one shelter.) But their ability to set their own
>>schedules and duties causes a great deal of
>>scheduling overhead.
>>
>>And it takes effort and thought to ensure that
>>volunteers get the meaningful experience that
>>they work for.
>>
>>Someone has to be responsible for that
>>Volunteer Program, and it is best done
>>by a non-volunteer."
>>
>>Lynn K.
>>---------------------------------
>>
>>"I worked with one shelter where I bathed and groomed
>>every adoptable dog on intake. I frankly felt that the
>>effort/benefit equation was not balanced for some of the
>>older/ill poodle/terrier mixes we got in badly matted condition.
>>
>>Should I have refused to groom them?
>>
>>Or even more pertinent - I was one of the people who
>>had to make the euthanasia decisions at that shelter."
>>
>>Lynn K.
>>--------------------------------------

"Many People Have Problems Getting The Pinch
Right, Either They Do Not Pinch Enough, Or They
Have A Very Stoic Dog. Some Dogs Will Collapse
Into A Heap. About The Ear Pinch: You Must Keep
The Pressure Up," sindy "don't let the dog SCREAM"
mooreon, author of HOWER FAQ's pages on k9 web.

You think HURTING a HUNTING DOG to
MAKE IT HUNT is NECESSARY???


I'll be you've never had to put down litters of
beautiful labrador puppies? If you had did, maybe
you'd be singing a different tune?

"Actually, have held them for the tech to euth, and
put their bodies in the trash bag and in the freezer
for the trash company to come and dispose of.

No different tune," ~Emily

"I'll bet you don't know a thing about me. I volunteered
as assistant to the euthanasia tech at our local shelter
for a while, and I know a bit about overpopulation and
unwanted animals.

This however has nothing at all to do with responsible
breeders, because responsible breeders don't contribute
to that problem," Mustang Sally.

Are those MENTAL CASES, or NOT?

Better report to Soup and update your MENTAL ILLNESS
status. The Puppy Wizard wouldn't wanna push you over
the goddamned edge and see you HURT YOURSELF
from EMBARRASSMENT.
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The dog sleeps in the basement in a cage. He also eats down there and we
let him in and out from the basement. (basement door leads outside)

Reese (my dog's name) will be upstairs in the family room and as soon as he
hears my son's bedroom door open , he goes nuts. He will bark his head off
for ten minutes. If I put the leash on him he will usually stop. Sometimes
I will put the leash on him and hand it to my son. Reese will sit and let
him pet him. 30 minutes later he hears my son's door open and he's going
nuts again.

I'm going crazy trying to figure out what to do..


"Bill Zimmerman" <wazimmerman DeleteThis @adelphia.net> wrote in message
news:zgOxb.19$oe4.32931@news2.news.adelphia.net...
> Hi
>
> Our 6 month old German shepherd male puppy is showing aggressive behavior
> toward our 2 sons. They are 19 and 21. He will bark at the sound of our
> older son moving around in his room in the basement of our home. While
> barking he will also back away as if he is afraid. We have tried yanking
on
> his choke chain and correcting him as advised by his breeder, but he still
> carries on with the barking. He will let our son get close to him and pet
> him, and while he has never bitten him, we are concerned. He is doing
> somewhat better with our younger son, since he is around him more. The
> strange thing is that he doesn't show any sign of this behavior around any
> other males. We have taken him around other family members and their dogs,
> and to the pet store with no problems. He is fine with other men that
come
> to the house and he is fine with my wife and our 17 year old daughter.
He
> was raised for the first 6 months by a single 60ish woman, who decided he
> was too much for her. He is a good dog otherwise, seems to be pretty
> intelligent and eager to learn. We don't know how to correct this
behavior
> and are open to suggestions. Thanks
>
>
>
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Some thoughts... for what they are worth, no more, no less... no
accusations being made...

1. Your dog is a puppy with very little life experience. He is making
a judgement based on darn little... perhaps.

2. Boys in their adolescent years sometimes make shaky decisions, too.
Both of them are in the basement... Same area? Kinda makes me wonder if
your son has done something out of your sight, based on his immaturity
(even if he's normally mature for his age) that has frightened the pup.
This does not mean that he has done it intentionally or that he has hurt
the pup... only that it has effected the pup to produce the behavior you
see.

3. GSDs tend to go through very pronounced fear stages.... several of
them... and one is often around this general age... so his reaction may
be based only on this developmental stage and his selection of your son
to react to in this way.

4. One approach might be to have your son do all or almost all of the
pup's daily care, especially his feeding. This will make the kid very
special to the pup.

5. The confidence-building effect of a basic obedience class, around
other well-controlled dogs, not directly interacting with them, just
learning to understand that he is safe with you, and earns all sorts of
praise and rewards for learning to work with you, may be extremely
helpful in developing strategies to work through the last couple of fear
stages... as well as this one. Classes will be starting right after New
Years...so I'd ask at your vet clinic for which schools/clubs/trainers
are the best, and enroll now.

Jo Wolf
Martinez, Georgia
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HOWEDY jo,

"Jo Wolf" <wolfje DeleteThis @webtv.net> wrote in message
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>
> Some thoughts...

From an incompetent dog abusing fraudulent dog
training lesson sales person.

> for what they are worth, no more, no less...

All your advice has been discredited, jo. You've
been proven to be a fraud and a dog abuser.

> no accusations being made...

The Puppy Wizard got PROOF, jo.

> 1. Your dog is a puppy with very little life experience.

A dog is a dog, jo. A three week old puppy got
all the brain IT needs to learn anything IT needs.

> He is making a judgement based on darn little... perhaps.

The dog is AFRAID, jo. The dog ain't "makin a judgement,"
IT is REFLEXING to his normal innate instinctive natural
INSTINCT to fight or flee, jo. You remember hearin abHOWET
INSTINCT, jo?

> 2. Boys in their adolescent years sometimes make
> shaky decisions, too.

You're a blowhard, jo. You're a dHOWEbletalker, jo.
You're a FRAUD, jo. You're a DOG ABUSER, jo.

> Both of them are in the basement... Same area?

That's irrelevent, jo.

> Kinda makes me wonder if your son has done
> something out of your sight,

You think his kid is sneakin arHOWEND to jerk
and choke IT on a pronged spiked pinch choke
collar when he's not doin it himself, jo?

> based on his immaturity

Based on your ABSURDITY, jo...

> (even if he's normally mature for his age)

You maggot. You ain't gettin away with blamin
the kid for scarin the dog when the OP been
jerkin and chokin his dog based on his ETHICKAL
BREEDER tellin him to HURT HIS DOG to calm
ITS fears, jo.

> that has frightened the pup.

Get the heel HOWETA The Puppy Wizard's FREE
WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method Forum, jo.
You got nuthin to contribute here, like ed w of PET
LOSS dot COIN and FRAUDreck and Master Of
Deception blankman and professor SCRUFF SHAKE
ain't got no goddamned business here noMOORE.

> This does not mean that he has done it intentionally
> or that he has hurt the pup... only that it has effected
> the pup to produce the behavior you see.

And the jerking and choking, jo? That ain't got
NUTHIN to do with his dog FEARING his son?

> 3. GSDs tend to

A dog is a dog, jo. You ain't gonna get away
with blamin the breed no goddamned MOORE
than you're gonna get away with blamin the
godddamned kid. You're a FRAUD, jo.

> go through very pronounced fear stages....

Well, perhaps that's on accHOWENT of ETHICKAL
BREEDERS and EXXXPERT TRAINERS like you
jo, JERKIN and CHOKIN and INTIMIDATING dogs.

> several of them...

You been readin Scott & Fuller, jo? Let's talk
abHOWET the adolescent rebelliHOWES stage,
eh jo? HOWE COME a dog is gonna become
REBELIHOWES, jo?

MIGHT jerkin and chokin IT make IT rebelliHOWES, jo?

> and one is often around his general age...

You've hit the goddamned wall, jo.

> so his reaction may be based only on this developmental
> stage and his selection of your son to react to in this way.

That's sheer idiocy and incompetence talkin.

> 4. One approach might be to have your son do all
> or almost all of the pup's daily care, especially his feeding.

That's idiocy, jo. The dog is AFRAID of his son, jo.

> This will make the kid very special to the pup.

You think you can bribe a dog not to be afraid?

> 5. The confidence-building effect of a basic obedience class,

You HURT dogs to train them, jo.

> around other well-controlled dogs,

You mean watchin other dogs gettin jerked
and choked is reassuring to the dog, jo?

> not directly interacting with them, just
> learning to understand that he is safe with you,

The dog AIN'T SAFE with him, he jerks and chokes
his dog according to his ETHICKAL BREEDER'S
instructions, jo. THAT'S the PROBLEM, jo, not who's
FEEDIN IT.

> and earns all sorts of praise and rewards

You mean bribes, jo?

> for learning to work with you, may be extremely
> helpful in developing strategies to work through
> the last couple of fear stages... as well as this one.

You mean, after his dog gets used to gettin jerked
and choked, jo?

> Classes will be starting right after New Years...

You'll be goin HOWETA BUSINESS this year, jo.
You're a FRAUD.

> so I'd ask at your vet clinic for which schools/clubs/trainers
> are the best, and enroll now.

Better yet, perhaps you can make a private appointment
so they don't have to wait another month with their dog
threatening his kids.

> Jo Wolf

NHOWE, you wanna SEE HOWE COME the dog
is aggressive, jo?L:

> Martinez, Georgia


"Bill Zimmerman" <wazimmerman DeleteThis @adelphia.net> wrote in message
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>
> The dog sleeps in the basement in a cage.

THAT MAKES A DOG INSECURE.

> He also eats down there and we let him in and
> out from the basement. (basement door leads outside)
>
> Reese (my dog's name) will be upstairs in the family
> room and as soon as he hears my son's bedroom door
> open , he goes nuts.

So, you're supposed to PRAISE HIM and REASSURE HIM.

> He will bark his head off for ten minutes.

NOT IF YOU PRAISE HIM.

> If I put the leash on him he will usually stop.

Cause he knows it's time for MOORE jerking and choking.
That INCREASES anxiety even as he REPRESSES his
anxiety, and THAT'S HOWE COME behavior problems
CHANGE to other, seemingly non related behavior problems
as REPLACEMENT or TRAINSFER behaviors.

> Sometimes I will put the leash on him and hand it to my son.

That's a REAL BAD idea.

> Reese will sit and let him pet him.

CAUSE HE'S AFRAID.

> 30 minutes later he hears my son's door open
> and he's going nuts again.

On accHOWENT of the entire time the dog has
been REPRESSING HIS FEARS while on lead
with your son his ANXIETY INCREASES and
when the CONTROL is relieved, the dog reverts
back to a HEIGHTENED LEVEL of his FEAR.

> I'm going crazy trying to figure out what to do..

You're in good company, Bill.

HOWER dog lovers are predominately liars, dog
abusers and active MENTAL CASES:

Here's a partial list of and some qoutes from
HOWER liars and dog abusers:

Can you tell the truth from a lie?:

> > > Jerome Bigge writes:
> > > I do know that hitting, hurting
> > > your dog will often make the
> > > dog either aggressive or a fear
> > > biter, neither of which we want to do.

And then we got, matty! Follow his discussion!
This is what's called, a liar and dog abuser:

> > And neither does anyone else,
> > Jerome. No matter
> > what Jerry Howe states.

"Just Want To Second Jerry's Method For
Dealing With This I've Suggested It To Quite
A Few Clients Now And It's Worked 'EVERY
TIME The Very First Time' - marilyn, Trainer,
33 Years Experience.

You DO remember KILLFILING MARILYN for her coment above
regarding her success with The Puppy Wizard's Surrogate Toy
Separation Anxiety / Bed Time Calming Technique (STSA/BTCT)?

Perhaps you likeWIZE recall a pediatrician, Dr. Z, who commented
that his bed time calming technique was quite similar?

> > You're scary Marilyn.

> > Marilyn must be quite a disturbed
> > individual. I feel very sorry for her
> > and her family.

"His Amazing Progress Almost Makes Me Cry.
Your Method Takes Positive Training To The
Next Level And Should Really Be Used By All
Trainers Who Call Themselves Trainers. Thank
You For Helping Me Save His Life," Kay Pierce,
Professional Trainer, 30 Years Experience.

> > BUT, giving you the benefit of the
> > doubt, please provide a quote (an
> > original quote, not from one of Jerry
> > Howe's heavily edited diatribes) that
> > shows a regular poster promoting or
> > using an abusive form of training.

BWWWWEAAAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!

> > --Matt. Rocky's a Dog.

"Many People Have Problems Getting The Pinch
Right, Either They Do Not Pinch Enough, Or They
Have A Very Stoic Dog. Some Dogs Will Collapse
Into A Heap. About The Ear Pinch: You Must Keep
The Pressure Up," sindy "don't let the dog SCREAM"
mooreon, author of HOWER FAQ's pages on k9 web.

You think HURTING a HUNTING DOG to
MAKE IT HUNT is NECESSARY???

"Well, Jack Did Hit My Dog. Actually I'd Call It
A Sharp Tap Of The Crook To The Nose. I Know
Jack Wouldn't HaveDone It If He Thought Solo
Couldn't Take It. I Still Crate Him Because
Otherwise I Fear He Might Eat My Cat," melanie.

You think allowing a "FEAR AGGRESSIVE MAN
SHY" dog to be BEATEN by a strange male trainer
is INTELLIGENT BEHAVIOR for a DOG LOVER?

"Warning: Sometimes The Corrections Will Seem
Quite Harsh And Cause You To Cringe. This Is A
Normal Reaction The First Few Times It Happens,
But You'll Get Over It."mike duforth, author:
"Courteous Canine."

You think HURTIN dogs and CRINGING
is COURTEOUS?

"I have heard advice stating that you should pre-load
your dog for Bitter Apple for it to work as efficiently
as possible. What does this mean?"

Means the author is a dog abuser of the worst magnitude.

"When you bring home the Bitter Apple for the first time,
spray one squirt directly into the dog's mouth and walk away.
The dog won't be too thrilled with this but just ignore him and
continue your normal behavior."

You think HURTING your dog is NORMAL BEHAVIOR?

--Mike Dufort
author of the zero selling book
"Courteous Canines"

You think HOWER pal mikey is playin with a full deck?

Yeah. When I preload my dog's mouth with bitter apple,
suppose I don't get used to being stupid and cruel, mikey?

Then HOWE do I train my dog if I can't HURT it?

"I Dropped The Leash, Threw My Right Arm Over The Lab's Shoulder,
Grabbed Her Opposite Foot With My Left Hand,
Rolled Her On Her Side, Leaned On Her, Smartly Growled
Into Her Throat And Said "GRRRR!" And Neatly Nipped Her
Ear," sionnach.

Oh, THANKS, sinofabitch...

And from terri willis, Psychoclown wrote:
"Nope. That "beating dogs with sticks" things is
something you twisted out of context,
because you are full of bizarro manure."

"Get A 30"- 40" Stick.You can have a
helper wield the stick, or do it yourself.
Tougher, less tractable dogs may require
you to progress to striking them more
sharply," lying frosty dahl, ethical breeder,
expert trainer.

You think a EXXXPERT trainer got to BEAT
a HUNTIN dog to MAKE IT HUNT?

"Pudge Was So Soft That She Could And
Would Avoid A Simple Swat On The Rump
With A Riding Crop," lying frosty dahl,
discoverer of CANNIBALISM in Labradors.

Perhaps the mom dog didn't want her babies HURT all
their lives like HOWE HOWER dog lovers PREFER to
HURT THEIR DOGS?

"John ran out, grabbed Blackie by the collar, and
gave the dog two or three medium whacks on the
rump with a training stick while holding him partially
off the ground. John then told Blackie to sit, ran back
to the line and cast him back to the dummies."

The Puppy Wizard sez a mom dog eatin her babies
to SAVE THEM from a fate like that, is COMMENDABLE.

We're gonna teach folks THAT AIN'T NORMAL...

terri willis, Psychoclown wrote:
"Nope. That "beating dogs with sticks"
things is something you twisted out of
context, because you are full of bizarro
manure."

Sez on our FAQ'S pages at K9 Web you should knee
the dog in the chest, step on its toes, throw him down
by his ears and climb all over it like a raped ape growling
into his throat and bite IT on his ears, or leash pop it on a
pronged spiked pinch choke collar or pop him in the snout
with the heel of your palm.

"BethF" <dawg DeleteThis @alaska.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Frank" <flmarcher DeleteThis @netscape.net> wrote in message
> news:d2f1624e.0206101912.2980eb03@posting.google.com...
> > dfrntdrums DeleteThis @aol.comMURK-OFF (Leah) wrote in message
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> > > >"brianev" brianev DeleteThis @attbi.com wrote:
> > > > I ENJOYED reading your book, and
> > > > AGREED with what you had to say.
> > > > I find it sick to hear what people
> > > > do with their dogs.
> > > Keep in mind that everything he says that
> > > the regular posters of this ng do to their
> > > dogs are lies.
> > > All of it. Every last bit.
> > All of it?
> > Ear pinching?
> > Shock collars?
> > Spiked chokers?
> > The regulars lie more in their denials than
> > Howe does in his accusing of them.
:
> Uh, Frank? Who do you see denying anything?
> Its quite interesting that a newbie like yourself
> would see denials when everyone has Jerry
> killfiled and therefore don't even read his posts,
> let alone respond to them.

"Rocky" <2dogs DeleteThis @rocky-dog.com> wrote in message
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> Linda wrote in rec.pets.dogs.behavior:

> > When you compare using sound and
> > praise to solve a problem with using
> > shock collars, hanging, and punishment
> > how can you criticize the use of sound?

> There's nothing more to be said, then.
> You've made up your mind.

> But you've impressed me by mentioning
> that you're a professor with 30 years of
> experience.

> So, can you cite some examples of
> people recommending "shock collars,
> hanging, and punishment"?

BWWWAWHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!!

> --
> --Matt. Rocky's a Dog.

You think matty's playin with a full
goddamned deck?

matty's NOT a liar and dog abuser.

Isn't that true, Marilyn?

Of course not, but THIS IS:

"Chin CHUCK absolutely doesn't mean slap,"
professora gingold.

"Marshall Dermer" <dermer DeleteThis @alpha1.csd.uwm.edu> wrote in message
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> >Di,

> I don't believe you mentioned a particular
> kind of training. If you are interested in
> training retrieval behavior than do
> consider our own Amy Dahl's:

> The 10-Minute Retriever : How to Make a
> Well-Mannered, Obedient and
> Enthusiastic Gun Dog in 10 Minutes a
> Day by John I. Dahl, Amy Dahl

You failed to mention your pals the dahls are
proven liars and dog abusers, professor "SCRUFF SHAKE:"

"I Would Never Advise Anyone To Slap A
Dog I Do Not Believe There Is A Single
Circumstance Ever, Where Slapping A
Dog Is Anything But Destructive,"

LUCKY thing CHIN CHUCK absolutely don't
mean slap the goddamned dog, we'd look like
a conspiracy of LIARS and DOG abusers if
CHIN CHUCK DID mean SLAP the dog.

"I don't see why anyone would want to choke or
beat a dog, or how any trainer could possibly get
a good working dog by making them unhapper,
fearful, cowering, etc." sez amy lying frosty dahl.

DOES THAT SOUND LIKE THE TRUTH?

> just $17.95 at Amazon.com.

> (Also, it is best to killfile posts from the
> few regulars here who are either ill-
> tempered, ill-mannered, or just plain ill.)
> --Marshall

Or HOWE about HOWER just plain CRUEL
STUPID and ABUSIVE DOG ABUSERS,
professor SCRUFF SHAKE?

amy lying frosty dahl continues:

"On the other extreme, the really hard dogs
we have trained require much more
frequent and heavy application of pressure
(PAIN j.h.) to get the job done,

This is continued resistance to your
increasing authority, and the job is
not done until it is overcome

Get A 30"- 40" Stick.You can have a helper
wield the stick, or do it yourself. Tougher,
less tractable dogs may require you to
progress to striking them more sharply"

BUT NOBODY DOES THAT HERE...

"Try pinching the ear between the metal
casing and the collar, even the buckle on
the collar. Persist! Eventually, the dog will
give in but will squeal, thrash around, and
direct their efforts to escaping the ear pinch"

OR ATTACKING HIS ABUSER.

"You can press the dog's ear with a
shotshell instead of your thumb even
get a studded collar and pinch the ear
against that Make the dog's need to stop
the pinching so urgent that resisting your
will fades in importance.

CHUCK IT Under ITS Chin With That Ever
Ready Right Hand, As it catches on, try
using the stick and no ear pinch.

When the dog is digging out to beat the
stick and seems totally reliable without
any ear pinch, you are finished

This is continued resistance to your
increasing authority, and the job is
not done until it is overcome"

If the dog drops it, chuck it solidly
under the chin, say "No! Hold!"

(stay on the ear until it does) (perhaps
because the ear is getting tender, or the
dog has decided it isn't worth it)" lying
frosty dahl.

"Chin cuff absolutely does not mean slap,"
professora gingold.

From: Marshall Dermer (dermer@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu)
In article <38CC0C43.94E2DDD1 DeleteThis @earthlink.net>
rhurwitz DeleteThis @earthlink.net writes:

>> -snip headers etc.

>> Yes. you're right, I really should find
>> the book.. they don't have these books
>> in the local pet stores I frequent, where
>> do you find Koehler?

> I got a nice large print copy from
> Amazon.com

>Richard

Please try Powell's Books in Portland
Oregon. Their URL is:

http://www.powells.com/

Unlike Amazon.com, Powell's keeps both
new and used books on its shelves. You
can order books via e-email.

Koehler Method Of Dog
Training
by Koehler, W R
Published by HOWELL BOOK
HOUSE (0876056575,

========================================================

Here's some quotes and some methods right
outta your koehler book professor "SCRUFF SHAKE and scream "NO!"
into its
face for 5
seconds:"

"The Koehler Method of Dog Training (1962). New York:
Howell Book Book House(p. 52-53)."

Hanging

"First, the trainer makes certain that the collar
and leash are more than adequate for any jerk
or strain that the dog's most frantic actions could cause. Then
he starts
to work the dog deliberately and fairly to the point where the dog
makes his
grab.

Before the teeth have reached their target,
the dog, weight permitting, is jerked from
the ground.

As in coping with some of the afore-mentioned problems the dog is
suspended
in mid-air.

However, to let the biting dog recover
his footing while he still had the strength
to renew the attack would be cruelty.

The only justifiable course is to hold him
suspended until he has neither the strength
nor inclination to renew the fight.

When finally it is obvious that he is
physically incapable of expressing his
resentment and is lowered to the ground,
he will probably stagger loop-legged for a
few steps, vomit once or twice, and roll
over on his side.

The sight of a dog lying, thick-tongued,
on his side, is not pleasant, but do not
let it alarm you

THE REAL "HOOD"

"If your dog is a real "hood" who would
regard the foregoing types of protest as
"kid stuff" and would express his
resentment of your efforts by biting,
your problem is difficult -- and pressing.

"Professional trainers often get these
extreme problems. Nearly always the
"protest biter" is the handiwork of a
person who, by avoiding situations that
the dog might resent, has nurtured the
seeds of rebellion and then cultivated
the resultant growth with under correction.

When these people reap their inevitable
and oftentimes painful harvest, they are
ready to avail themselves of "the cruel
trainer" whose advice they may have
once rejected because it was incompatible
with the sugary droolings of mealy-
mouthed columnists, breed-ring biddies,
and dog psychologists who, by the
broken skins and broken hearts their
misinformation causes, can be proven guilty
of the greatest act of cruelty to animals
since the dawn of time.

"With more genuine compassion for the
biting dog than would ever be demonstrated
by those who are "too kind" to make a
correction and certainly with more disregard
for his safety, the professional trainer
morally feels obligated to perform a "major
operation."

"Since we are presently concerned with
the dog that bites in resentment of the
demands of training, we will set our
example in that situation. (In a later
chapter we will deal with the with the
much easier problem of the dog that
bites someone other than his master."

Are we havin FUN yet?

Got a lite, professor SCRUFF SHAKE?
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HOWEDY lying "I LOVE KOEHLER" lynn,

"Lynn K." <javagsd.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Bill Zimmerman" <wazimmerman.DeleteThis@adelphia.net> wrote in message
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>
> > Hi
>
> > Our 6 month old German shepherd male puppy
> > is showing aggressive behaviortoward our 2 sons.
> > They are 19 and 21. He will bark at the sound of
> > our older son moving around in his room in the
> > basement of our home.
>
> I know of no breed that goes through as extreme
> a developmental fear period (usually at 7-9 months)
> as GSDs.

That so? Perhaps that's on accHOWENT of you
jerk and choke them on pronged spiked pinch
choke collars and shock and spray aversives in
their faces and beat them with your training stick
and lock them in boxes.

> The sound of unknown activity is probably what
> is setting him off,

You think so? IMAGINE? You figgered that HOWET
withHOWET even havin to SEE the dog?

> rather than anything about your sons.

Right... EXXXCEPT for the jerkin an chokin he
was instructed to do by his ethickal breeder.

> Don't force him to confront his fears right now.

RIGHT. That's HOWE COME he's been HURTIN his dog.

> Ignore him

He CAN'T IGNORE the dog tryin to attack his kids,
lying "I LOVE KOEHLER" lynn.

> or laugh at him

Before or after jerkin an chokin IT?

> to tell him that this is a perfectly normal activity

You think jerkin an chokin a dog is NORMAL???

> and nothing to be upset about.

Well, not if it's NORMAL.

> Chances are good that it will go way as
> quickly as it began.

That so? What other behaviors do you know
that dissappear when you IGNORE them?

> Lynn K.

HOWEDY Group,

Here some SUCCESS STORIES ive had using JERRY'S MANUAL

1) My dogz, two bitches - Vicious, barking, aggressive, pulled
on leash, wanted to kill any dogs they saw, fought between
each other. TWO WEEKS using Jerry's manual, they were calm,
friends, my companions.

2) ADDED A BEAGLE PUPPY (male) to my "PACK", the
girls had -NO PROBLEMS- with him from the moment I
dropped him by their noses.

3) My FRIENDS dogs 2 MALES barking and jumping
at the fence all night 3 DAYS TRAINING WITH JERRY'S
MANUAL they were CALMED AND HAVEN'T BARKED ONCE!

Added a NEW MALE DOG (2 yrs old) AND
WELCOMED HIM WITH NO WUCKAS !

4) POODLE that ATE food from the KITCHEN BENCH -
lock him in a box? NO! USE JERRYS MANUAL! 4 DAYS
AND HES NEVER DONE IT SINCE!

5) ABUSED DOGS AT THE SHELTER I WORK AT -
HAD TO BE FED WITH A BUCKET ON A STICK -
ONE WEEK ON JERRYS MANUAL, THE SUPERVISOR
TOLD ME TO PUT THEM IN THE PUBLIC KENNELS
FOR SALE !

Quite amazing to - I thought they were just dull coloured
dogs, but after I had removed the fear and anxiety their
hairs coloured up amazingly.

6) STAFFY FEMALE who would NOT DROP HER
BALL! She carried it around all day and night - 3
DAYS on jerrys MANUAL and she now DROPS
it when u ASK her to!

BWHWHAHAHAHAAHA !!!!

Nevyn

============

Nevyn writes:

Jerry I cannot even begin to tell you the success Ive
had with your training manual! My two mutts have
gone from out-of-control psychos to obedient well
behaved companions within a matter of weeks!

AND My friends have seen the success and have
asked me to work on their dogs!

I was working with a 5 month old Ridgeback female
today and she was being an angel after like an hour
of working with her!

it is AMAZING!!

I pity those fools who take their dogs to classes where the
"Trainers" abuse their dogs! (do they have a degree? A
masters? a Phd? by the way? NO they are average joes
off the street who think they know how to train dogs!)

Once again, Jerry, you are a genius!

NEVYN and my Dogs, Rizzo and Midget, My Grandparents
dogs, Dusty and Snoopy, and my friends pup, Jazz.

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> Nevyn" <alien4.DeleteThis@wasp.net.au> wrote in message
> news:fde575d9.0209090337.34fb7ee2@posting.google.com...
>
> Hi There Jerry
>
> Its Nevyn. Sorry Ive not been posting, but I've been
> working weekend work at the tracks with the greyhounds
> (thanks to you!).
>
> Well my dogs are the envy of all on my street. I can
> have them out in the yard with me, take them walking
> without a leash, they will do any command with no
> hesitation. And they don't bark anymore! Thanks to
> your machine!
>
> Oh yeah, I loaned your machine to several friends
> and family -- Here are some reports:
>
> "I would say my dogs are well trained, but they suffer
> severe anxiety when no body is home. This machine
> quietened them almost instantly - still they barked,
> in the beginning, but just one or two barks. Then
> slowly they just stopped... beginning to bark, then
> instantly stopping.
>
> It took only 2 weeks, and we did nothing.
>
> Truly amazing;
>
> I have recommomeded it to my family, and perhaps
> they will buy one. Its a shame you don't sell them publicly".
> -- Kylie, 30, on dogs Lili (11 yr mutt bitch) and Sheeba (4 yr
> Rotty X)
>
>
> "My two dogs barked insanely when someone would
> go past. With this little machine they quietened right
> down, and even became partly obedient, and we did
> nothing!
>
>