Welcome to PetForumz.com!
FAQFAQ      ProfileProfile    Private MessagesPrivate Messages   Log inLog in

Help! Dying Fish!

 
   Pet Problems (Home) -> Goldfish RSS
Next:  looking for source for fish food  
Author Message
KMJ

External


Since: Oct 06, 2006
Posts: 1



(Msg. 1) Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 9:39 am
Post subject: Help! Dying Fish!
Archived from groups: rec>aquaria>freshwater>goldfish (more info?)

I'm a complete newbie to this site and goldfish keeping in general. I'm
looking after my dad's place while he's away and I've noticed the
goldfish in the pond aren't doing too well. One guy in particular is
in a bad way. He wasn't moving much and sinking to the bottom with
white stuff coming out from his gills as well as a white residue on his
body. I took him to an aquarium and the guy said he didn't know what it
was and didn't offer any advice as the fish was probably going to die
away. Needless to say I though he was an idiot and started searching
the net for answers.

So far I've brought him inside and isolated him in a "hospital" tank
which has a filter and airator. I put some water conditioning drops in
and checked the PH which looks around 7. I also gave him a salt bath of
30% for a minute or so until he rolled over (I thought I'd killed him)
then put him back in the hospital and some fungucide drops in the
water. He's picked up a bit and is now swimming at the surface again
but not strongly.

Can anyone suggest what else I can do? Should I feed him or not? If
so what should I feed him. I read about frequent water changing of
30%, is that just with straight tap water? I thought changes to the
water would shock him. Like I said I don't know anything about keeping
goldfish and I don't want the little guy to die on my watch.

Any advice would be gratefully received.

Cheers,
KMJ




--
KMJ

 >> Stay informed about: Help! Dying Fish! 
Back to top
Login to vote
Iola

External


Since: Oct 07, 2006
Posts: 2



(Msg. 2) Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 8:46 pm
Post subject: fish in md [Login to view extended thread Info.]
Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

Hello, our pond fish in md spawned and we have babbies.... mostley
shubinkuins and sarassas.... anyone intrested? I have a 300 tank full on
babies. Ola
"KMJ" <KMJ.2f9ews DeleteThis @news.fishkeepingbanter.com> wrote in message
news:KMJ.2f9ews@news.fishkeepingbanter.com...
>
> I'm a complete newbie to this site and goldfish keeping in general. I'm
> looking after my dad's place while he's away and I've noticed the
> goldfish in the pond aren't doing too well. One guy in particular is
> in a bad way. He wasn't moving much and sinking to the bottom with
> white stuff coming out from his gills as well as a white residue on his
> body. I took him to an aquarium and the guy said he didn't know what it
> was and didn't offer any advice as the fish was probably going to die
> away. Needless to say I though he was an idiot and started searching
> the net for answers.
>
> So far I've brought him inside and isolated him in a "hospital" tank
> which has a filter and airator. I put some water conditioning drops in
> and checked the PH which looks around 7. I also gave him a salt bath of
> 30% for a minute or so until he rolled over (I thought I'd killed him)
> then put him back in the hospital and some fungucide drops in the
> water. He's picked up a bit and is now swimming at the surface again
> but not strongly.
>
> Can anyone suggest what else I can do? Should I feed him or not? If
> so what should I feed him. I read about frequent water changing of
> 30%, is that just with straight tap water? I thought changes to the
> water would shock him. Like I said I don't know anything about keeping
> goldfish and I don't want the little guy to die on my watch.
>
> Any advice would be gratefully received.
>
> Cheers,
> KMJ
>
>
>
>
> --
> KMJ

 >> Stay informed about: Help! Dying Fish! 
Back to top
Login to vote
dr-solo

External


Since: Sep 16, 2003
Posts: 73



(Msg. 3) Posted: Sun Oct 08, 2006 4:22 am
Post subject: Re: Help! Dying Fish! [Login to view extended thread Info.]
Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

white powdery mildew is columnaris, a bacteria.
it sounds like something has been dumped into the pond, like slaked lime, or maybe
somebody tossed in a lump of plaster of paris, or a plaster of paris statue, or maybe
marble chips around it and it rained and leached it into the pond. or some kind of
fresh concrete statue or bricks under pots. or >????
Ingrid

KMJ <KMJ.2fc6wu.DeleteThis@news.fishkeepingbanter.com> wrote:

>Thank for the advice and the pointer to the Puregold website.
>Unfortunately I got to him too late and he died as well as 2 more fish
>in the pond. It's been a steep learning curve but I'm really getting
>into it now. I tested the PH in the pond water and it was around 9.
>I've managed to get it down to around 7.2 over the last few days and
>the other fish seem OK so far except a few have what looks like a white
>powdery mildew. Now I've got to figure out what this is fungus or
>bacteria and what made the 7 year old pond become so alkaline.
>
>Cheers KMJ



~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List at
http://weloveteaching.com/puregold/
sign up: http://groups.google.com/groups/dir?hl=en&q=puregold&qt_s=Group+lookup
www.drsolo.com
Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I receive no compensation for running the Puregold list or Puregold website.
I do not run nor receive any money from the ads at the old Puregold site.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Zone 5 next to Lake Michigan
 >> Stay informed about: Help! Dying Fish! 
Back to top
Login to vote
KMJ

External


Since: Oct 08, 2006
Posts: 1



(Msg. 4) Posted: Sun Oct 08, 2006 11:42 pm
Post subject: Re: Help! Dying Fish! [Login to view extended thread Info.]
Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

dr-solo.TakeThisOut@wi.rr.xx.com Wrote:
> white powdery mildew is columnaris, a bacteria.
> it sounds like something has been dumped into the pond, like slaked
> lime, or maybe
> somebody tossed in a lump of plaster of paris, or a plaster of paris
> statue, or maybe
> marble chips around it and it rained and leached it into the pond. or
> some kind of
> fresh concrete statue or bricks under pots. or ????
> Ingrid
>
> KMJ KMJ.2fc6wu.TakeThisOut@news.fishkeepingbanter.com wrote:
> -
> Thank for the advice and the pointer to the Puregold website.
> Unfortunately I got to him too late and he died as well as 2 more fish
> in the pond. It's been a steep learning curve but I'm really getting
> into it now. I tested the PH in the pond water and it was around 9.
> I've managed to get it down to around 7.2 over the last few days and
> the other fish seem OK so far except a few have what looks like a
> white
> powdery mildew. Now I've got to figure out what this is fungus or
> bacteria and what made the 7 year old pond become so alkaline.
>
> Cheers KMJ-
>
>
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List at
> http://weloveteaching.com/puregold/
> sign up: http://tinyurl.com/h5rmf
> www.drsolo.com
> Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> I receive no compensation for running the Puregold list or Puregold
> website.
> I do not run nor receive any money from the ads at the old Puregold
> site.
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Zone 5 next to Lake Michigan

white powdery mildew is columnaris, a bacteria.
it sounds like something has been dumped into the pond, like slaked
lime, or maybe
somebody tossed in a lump of plaster of paris, or a plaster of paris
statue, or maybe
marble chips around it and it rained and leached it into the pond. or
some kind of
fresh concrete statue or bricks under pots. or ????
Ingrid

Thanks for that Ingrid. That explains a lot. That's why the bucket
load of fungicide I put in the pond did nothing. The pond had a big
clean out a couple of months ago and I use a couple of brick to raise
the statue. They are out now. This probably stressed the fish making
them more suceptable to the disease. I've got the PH down to around 7
and I'm testing it every day to check for any change.

The puregold site said the treatment for columnairs is potassium
permanganate in the water but I'm a little unsure about the exact
method of use. Is it a crystal that is mixed with water to form a
solution? What is the ratio for the solution? Do I take the fish out
and treat them in a hospital tank or do I put it in the pond which is
1600 litres. Does it then have to be remove from the water after the
treatment by using hydrogen peroxide and what ratio? Will it kill the
plants snails and mussles? It also said don't use potassium
permanganate if the PH is too high. What is the safe level.

Thanks again,
Kim




--
KMJ
 >> Stay informed about: Help! Dying Fish! 
Back to top
Login to vote
dr-solo

External


Since: Sep 16, 2003
Posts: 73



(Msg. 5) Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 2:18 am
Post subject: Re: Help! Dying Fish! [Login to view extended thread Info.]
Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

When the pond was cleaned out, if the sides were scrubbed it could be the water went
toxic for a while too before it recycled. also, if the water temp is too cold, this
stresses the fish and they get "stuff".
http://weloveteaching.com/puregold/disease/treatment/trtmnt.htm#POTASSIUM
there is the treatment. PP is now available online as a solution all made up. also,
I just found this
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7773651854&category=20756
he offers 4 oz which is perfect
4 oz to 1 quart of water (distilled is better) = stock solution
1 drop of stock PP per gallon
20 drops = 1 ml
1600 liters = 422 gallons
that is 21 ml of stock solution for each treatment.
1/4 cup of plain old drug store peroxide is fine to clear the PP. the water doesnt
need to be changed.
a pH of under 8 is preferred.
Ingrid

KMJ <KMJ.2fe1kv.TakeThisOut@news.fishkeepingbanter.com> wrote:
The pond had a big
>clean out a couple of months ago and I use a couple of brick to raise
>the statue. They are out now. This probably stressed the fish making
>them more suceptable to the disease. I've got the PH down to around 7
>and I'm testing it every day to check for any change.
>
>The puregold site said the treatment for columnairs is potassium
>permanganate in the water but I'm a little unsure about the exact
>method of use. Is it a crystal that is mixed with water to form a
>solution? What is the ratio for the solution? Do I take the fish out
>and treat them in a hospital tank or do I put it in the pond which is
>1600 litres. Does it then have to be remove from the water after the
>treatment by using hydrogen peroxide and what ratio? Will it kill the
>plants snails and mussles? It also said don't use potassium
>permanganate if the PH is too high. What is the safe level.
>
>Thanks again,
>Kim



~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List at
http://weloveteaching.com/puregold/
sign up: http://groups.google.com/groups/dir?hl=en&q=puregold&qt_s=Group+lookup
www.drsolo.com
Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I receive no compensation for running the Puregold list or Puregold website.
I do not run nor receive any money from the ads at the old Puregold site.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Zone 5 next to Lake Michigan
 >> Stay informed about: Help! Dying Fish! 
Back to top
Login to vote
Display posts from previous:   
Related Topics:
PlEaSe HELP MY FISH ARE DYING!!!! - I had 13 lovely gold fish 3 weeks ago and now I am left with 5. They all started off lying at the bottom off the tank. Then very quickly just floating around gasping for air. (gills pulsing rapidly). I put them in isolation as I dont want them to spread....

Dying (?) fish - Have a red and white comet, it appears to be on its last legs, lying at bottom of tank,only swimming when it has too . It was brought home from the pet shop about a year ago, is there anything I can do to put some zing back into it? As a year seems a..

fish dying - Ok, I need help. I am down to 4 little fishes from 21. I just built a large pond about 3500 gallons. I used 45 mil edpm for a liner, have added a waterfall, and have a 5900gph pump. I got instructions from another group on an idea for a filter. ..

High Ammonia -- Fish are dying -- Please Help - Hi all, I recently set up my fish tank about 3 weeks ago. All of a sudden, 3 days ago fishes started dying in the tank due to high level of ammonia. I have to change water 2 times a day now just to bring down the ammonia. I just started using..

Fluke burden ? was Dying (?) fish - Looking on the 'net (very dangerous trying to diagnose things on the 'net) but the description seems to follow exactly the fishes behaviour ie lying on the bottom but swimming OK when disturbed as to a fluke burden am thinking off getting fluke tabs..
   Pet Problems (Home) -> Goldfish All times are: Pacific Time (US & Canada) (change)
Page 1 of 1

 
You can post new topics in this forum
You can reply to topics in this forum
You can edit your posts in this forum
You can delete your posts in this forum
You can vote in polls in this forum



[ Contact us | Terms of Service/Privacy Policy ]