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Chom Noamsky

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 3:42 am
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The animal-rights activists use every dirty trick in the book to
misrepresent the truth, but when the tables are turned on them they get in a
big huff. Of course they filmed a dying seal for an hour, that sort of
footage is worth more in donations than the entire seal hunt. Considering
the president of HSUS gets paid over $250K a year, keeping those donations
rolling in is the primary objective of the organization:

http://www.canada.com/topics/news/national/story.html?id=c657d40b-58b3...ed-9cea

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 8:31 am
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"Deborah" <deborah@invalid> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 20 Mar 2007 03:42:49 GMT, "Chom Noamsky" <e.DeleteThis@t.me> wrote:
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>>Of course they filmed a dying seal for an hour, that sort of
>>footage is worth more in donations than the entire seal hunt.
>
> Well. It's kind of like the biggest argument against the death
> penalty - that one innocent person should die - when it is possible to
> watch a seal dying for an hour. It goes against every argument for
> the "humane" seal hunt. Anybody who wants to make an argument for a
> "humane" seal hunt is going to have to make sure this sort of thing
> doesn't happen. Capiche?

Commercial slaughterhouses use humane methods of killing, i.e. the captive
bolt pistol, but no process is 100% perfect. On average, a small percentage
of animals are not stunned or killed on the first firing and require
additional shots. Why then is sealing being held to an impossibly high
standard of 100% perfection? The majority of seals are killed with
firearms, only a small percentage are clubbed, and a bullet is as effective
as a bolt gun.

Basically, the ARAs don't have any fangs when it comes to killing domestic
animals, but if they can film a suffering seal and turn it into emotional
propaganda they can get lots of donations to pay their $250K executive
salaries. These groups will be disappointed if they ever succeed in
shutting down the seal hunt.

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 8:11 pm
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"Deborah" <deborah@invalid> wrote in message
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> Because sealing is facing a ban on exports. How many cases of "mad
> cow disease" did Alberta have when the USA banned imports of Canadian
> beef? What did it do to the Canadian cattle farmers?

Sealing is not a human health risk, hence these two scenarios are not even
close to similar.

> I caught an interview of a Dutch activist on The National not long
> ago, and she said the seals are not being harvested for food
> consumption, like the livestock killed at slaughterhouses are. The
> seals are being harvested for fur. She said the carcasses are being
> left behind. The news anchor interviewing her was apparently not in a
> position to refute that, because he didn't.

Commercial sealing is not intended as a food fishery, the marketable item is
the fur. If the meat can be utilized commercially that is a bonus for the
industry.

> Europeans have had an issue with harvesting animals only for their fur
> for some time now. So if the sealers ARE using the whole animal, that
> would be a good thing to let the Europeans know.

If that is the case they should stop buying furs. It just happens that the
EU is the biggest market for furs in the world, currently worth $5 billion a
year. Evidently, Euros like their furs as much as anyone - 85% of those
furs come from captive animals raised solely for the purpose of fur. If the
Euros are concerned about harvesting animals solely for fur perhaps they
should first set an example at home.

> I live on the west coast where seals are plentiful and there is no
> seal hunting here. I've never seen seal meat at the grocery store and
> I know of no one who has ever eaten seal meat. Maybe it is too fatty
> and oily for us, or something.

There is nowhere the population of seals in the B.C. as there is in Atlantic
Canada. The harbour seal population of B.C. is approximately 60,000. The
northern fur seal population is approximately 900,000 for the entire coast
from California to Alaska. The numbers are just not there to support any
kind of sustainable hunt, which explains why you won't see local seal
products in B.C. stores.

> But seal meat has long been part of the Innuit diet, and there are
> plenty of Innuit involved in the Atlantic seal hunt. Maybe they, at
> least, can say they use the whole animal.

What utilization level is expected from the farmed-fur industry? E.g., what
do they use mink carcasses for?

I'm just trying to understand why the seal hunt is being held to standards
that don't apply to the countries that are opposing the hunt. The only
explanation I can come up with is that seals are useful tools for
politicians looking to score cheap brownie points with voters, and for ARAs
to raise money to pay their sky-high salaries.
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