Grass fed beef?

I was just wondering, I'm a new "veg*n" and interested in construting
an entirely consistent philosophy on Animal Rights, whether or not it
continues to inludes veganism.
I've heard plenty of posts from Rick Etter and Dh and Jon Ball (I
think he's in on this posse too, I can't say for sure) about the
benefits of grass-fed cattle (as opposed to those who go to feed lots)
vs. factory farmed plants.
Did you hear that, guys? I've already read your initial points many
times over, and they make sense. I am trying to build a onsistent
philosophy using both these facts and those which onvinced me veganism
was the best answer. But something's missing....
I haven't seen a substantial "veg*n" response to these claims, outside
of the very reasonable point that one can oppose factory farming of
animals without hampioning factory farming of vegetables. I will
gladly support alternatives as they become apparant.
So I don't need to hear the same story over again. Please, I'm
looking for some new information from the veg*n side, and answers to
one question from the grass-fed posse:
What do you want me to do with this information? I gave up animal
products because there were alternatives to supporting the treatment
of animal's lives as inconvenient steps on their way to our plate.
Factory farmed vegetables an be replaced with organic alternatives,
though it is somewhat dubious how effectively organic farmers are
solving the problems you guys are championing. But probing deeper
into what I've heard you say: there are *no* humane alternatives to
wood. Plastic, metal etc. all harm the enviornment in at least
equally horrible ways. So what do you want me to do? If it's simply
to get rid of this attitude you talk so much about, this "My diet is
free of animal death" snub, then I've already got you covered. I do
not find the killing of animals for food inherently evil... I do find
the agriultural industry to be such. And as long as we must slaughter
some 25 billion or so animals annually to feed America, it will remain
that way. Is it possible to support that many animals on green acres?
Sorry to ramble, but just what am I supposed to do? Asking me to
leave society is simply unrealistic... should I follow your apparent
example and just give up?

"Derek" <dereknash.DeleteThis@btopenworld.com> wrote
> "Jonathan Ball" <jonball.DeleteThis@whitehouse.not> wrote
[..]
>
> > A *typical* "vegan" diet compared to a *typical*
> > meat-including diet will cause less animal death.
>
> I agree.

Can you see the difference between that statement and saying "a vegan diet
causes less animal death than an omnivorous diet"?