the Gonad Song

by:
Jonathan Ball/Citizen/Benfez/Wilson Woods/Radical Moderate/
Bingo/Edward/George/Bill/Fred/Mystery Poster/Merlin the dog/
Bob the dog/silvia@onairos.com/elvira/Dieter/Abner Hale/
Roger Whitaker/Fucktard/Apoo... aka The Gonad

Either farm animals "exist" in some kind of pre-conceived,
pre-born state, or they do not.

Being born is not a benefit in any way. It can't be.

No . . . that's not why I *know* animals don't "benefit"
from "getting to experience life". . . They don't
because they can't conceive of the idea of "benefit"...

Animals "getting to experience life", per se, is not worthy of
moral consideration.

How is life "its self" [sic] a "benefit" to non existent entities...?

"Veg*nism" certainly doesn't harm any living farm animals.
And if everyone adopted "veg*nism", no farm animals
would live in bad conditions.

People who don't want them to exist should be "vegans". "Vegans"
aren't interested in contributing to lives of any quality for farm
animals: they don't want there to be farm animals.

OF COURSE "this country" could be fed without raising any
farm animals.

"getting to experience life" deserves NO moral consideration,
and is given none; the deliberate killing of animals for use by
humans DOES deserve moral consideration, and gets it.

It doesn't matter if the animals know our intent... We know it.
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From: Jonathan Ball <jonball.RemoveThis@whitehouse.not>
Newsgroups: alt.food.vegan,alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian,talk.politics.animals,misc.rural,uk.business.agriculture
Subject: Re: Fuckwit continues to babble
Message-ID: <ADkFb.202$lo3.132@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net>
Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 17:20:32 GMT

NO animals 'benefit' from being born, Fuckwit. Not a
single one.
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From: Jonathan Ball <jonball.RemoveThis@whitehouse.not>
Newsgroups: talk.politics.animals,alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian
Subject: Re: "getting to experience life" = the (il)logic of the larder
Message-ID: <RIuVb.19843$uM2.6015@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net>
Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2004 17:53:53 GMT

Being born is not a benefit, FUCKWIT; it cannot be.
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Message-ID: <3E3EF9E2.4090906.RemoveThis@whitehouse.net>
From: Jonathan Ball <jonball.RemoveThis@whitehouse.net>
Newsgroups: talk.politics.animals
Subject: Re: Just Curious...
Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2003 23:22:32 GMT

Life is not a "benefit"
[...]
Repeat after me, Fuckwit: life, itself, cannot be a
"benefit".
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From: Jonathan Ball <jonball.RemoveThis@whitehouse.not>
Newsgroups: talk.politics.animals,alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian
Subject: Initial existence is NOT a benefit
Message-ID: <UbgLb.493$Pg.415@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net>
Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2004 17:12:20 GMT

Life per se - basic existence - is not a benefit to any
creature.
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From: Jonathan Ball <jonball.RemoveThis@whitehouse.not>
Newsgroups: talk.politics.animals,alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian,alt.philosophy
Subject: Re: The evidence: MOST meat eaters do not believe in the illogic
of the larder
Message-ID: <c1Qsc.9659$Tn6.8686@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net>
Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 22:46:32 GMT

You are wrong, JethroDonkeyFucktardMoron: life is not
a "benefit". It can't be.
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From: Jonathan Ball <jonball.RemoveThis@whitehouse.not>
Newsgroups: alt.philosophy,alt.philosophy.debate,talk.philosophy.misc,talk.politics.animals
Subject: Re: If life is a benefit...
Message-ID: <%s4zb.25383$n56.22354@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net>
Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 18:02:35 GMT

1. Life per se is not a benefit.
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From: Jonathan Ball <jonball.RemoveThis@netscape.com>
Newsgroups: talk.politics.animals,alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian
Subject: Re: David, stop dodging
Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2002 23:00:34 -0800
Message-ID: <3DCE0412.DE82876C.RemoveThis@netscape.com>

Life itself is not a benefit
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From: Jonathan Ball <jonball.RemoveThis@whitehouse.not>
Newsgroups: talk.politics.animals,alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian
Subject: Re: "getting to experience life" = the (il)logic of the larder
Message-ID: <4YiWb.23450$uM2.3964@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net>
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 05:20:00 GMT

Life per se is not a benefit at all. It can't be.
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From: Jonathan Ball <jonball.RemoveThis@whitehouse.not>
Newsgroups: talk.politics.animals,alt.philosophy,sci.agriculture,alt.food.vegan,alt.sci.sociology
Subject: Re: Why is Fuckwit David Harrison (Atlanta, GA) so horribly afraid
to answer simple and good questions?
Message-ID: <cvQpc.2894$SZ4.2376@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net>
Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 20:51:20 GMT

"Life" is not a benefit
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From: Jonathan Ball <jonball.RemoveThis@netscape.com>
Newsgroups: talk.politics.animals
Subject: Re: Special for Dreck: Fuckwit's contradiction
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 23:08:13 -0800
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Message-ID: <3DD1FA5D.D7C55413.RemoveThis@netscape.com>

"Life" is not a benefit
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From: Jonathan Ball <jonball.RemoveThis@whitehouse.not>
Newsgroups:
alt.philosophy,alt.philosophy.debate,talk.philosophy.misc,talk.politics.animals,alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian
Subject: Re: Pure exploitation of animals - a troll by David Fuckwit Harrison
Message-ID: <8pUnb.6916$Px2.5155@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net>
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 19:19:32 GMT

I have examined the question at length, and feel there is only
one reasonable conclusion: life, per se, is not a benefit.
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<dh_ld.RemoveThis@nomail.com> wrote in message
news:tokif05k2ab1u1623fpv1tdsi6u9migud5@4ax.com...
> by:
>
> NO animals 'benefit' from being born, Fuckwit. Not a
> single one.

It's fairly obvious that there was no benefit for your birth, quite the
opposite!

John