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Steve Dufour

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Girl Scouts hunt beavers and fur flies


By Rachel D''Oro
ASSOCIATED PRESS



ANCHORAGE, Alaska (AP) — Let other Girl Scouts make bird feeders
out of bleach bottles and glue together little birch-bark canoes.
Troop 34 in Alaska is learning to trap and skin beavers.
In a practice that has angered animal rights activists, the girls
are killing the beavers as part of a state flood-management program.
"We think it sends a very, very bad message that when animals
cause a problem, you kill them," said Stephanie Boyles of People for
the Ethical Treatment of Animals. She said the Girl Scouts should
teach children to become "stewards of wildlife, not abusers."
Troop 34 leader Dona Boylan said she wanted to impart lessons in
responsible game management to her members, who are city girls, at
least by Alaska's standards. Fairbanks is a city of nearly 30,000.
"Trapping may not be pretty, but the girls understand the
seriousness and huge responsibility of taking a life," Miss Boylan
said. "They understand that when humans impact their environment, they
become ultimately responsible for maintaining a healthy population of
the animals they have to coexist with in these urban centers."
Last spring, about 10 members of the Fairbanks troop and their
families helped catch two beavers using a snare and lethal traps. The
girls were taught how to find the animals' dens and how to lay the
traps. Working under close supervision, the girls used knives to skin
the beavers.
The troop had the pelts tanned and plans to make hats and mittens
once a dozen hides are collected. The girls also want to cook beaver
meat. They plan to begin setting traps again this month.
Officials at the Girl Scouts' New York headquarters did not return
repeated calls. But in a Sept. 16 letter to PETA, spokeswoman Courtney
Shore said the organization does not promote trapping or hunting and
does not offer merit badges for those activities.
Miss Shore noted that Troop 34, made up of 13 girls ages 10 to 12,
participated after an invitation from the state Department of Fish and
Game.
"It is understandable why the troop responded positively when
approached by a state authority to conduct an activity that is
commonplace in that area of the country," Miss Shore wrote.
The state-run Take a Kid Trapping program is aimed at controlling
floods and other damage caused by an expanding beaver population along
the lower Chena River in Fairbanks. It is open to children as young as
7.
Alaskan Girl Scout leaders said the program is a "nonissue" in
Fairbanks, where trapping has a long history. They said none of the
girls would talk to reporters.
"I feel like PETA doesn't have a concept that trapping is
considered a heritage here in Alaska," said Mike McDougall, a trapper
who worked with the scouts. "These kids are learning more than just
how to take an animal. They're learning about ecology. They also got a
definite sense of respect for the animals."
The program is helping to curb a burgeoning population of the
large rodents, which in Alaska can weigh up to 70 pounds. Their
growing numbers are attributed to recent warm winters and a drop in
commercial trapping.
"Beavers are a valuable source of education for our young people,"
said Tom Seaton, a state Fish and Game biologist. "Their carcasses can
be used in many ways — for food, for warm garments. Almost everything
about beavers is good except when they flood your yard or knock down
live trees."

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 2:28 am
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Nice article... just another example of PETA not knowing what the heck
they're doing. Bunch of bunny hugging rich people with no sense of
reality. I'd be proud of those girls if they were my kids... it's great
that they're learing how to manage wildlife. It's a shame that alot of
ignorant people freak out about it. Those same people that aren't
hunters or trappers here, always change their minds when the beavers are
taking their trees on their nice waterfront lots where they've built
their big mansion like cottages.
Hm, speaking of which... I took seven coons tonight. Guess they had
their last feed of corn for the year. I left a few... but I may go
back.. they have been doing some major crop damage where I was hunting
them for a farmer friend of mine.


Steve Dufour wrote:
> Girl Scouts hunt beavers and fur flies
>
>
> By Rachel D''Oro
> ASSOCIATED PRESS
>
>
>
> ANCHORAGE, Alaska (AP) — Let other Girl Scouts make bird feeders
> out of bleach bottles and glue together little birch-bark canoes.
> Troop 34 in Alaska is learning to trap and skin beavers.
> In a practice that has angered animal rights activists, the girls
> are killing the beavers as part of a state flood-management program.
> "We think it sends a very, very bad message that when animals
> cause a problem, you kill them," said Stephanie Boyles of People for
> the Ethical Treatment of Animals. She said the Girl Scouts should
> teach children to become "stewards of wildlife, not abusers."
> Troop 34 leader Dona Boylan said she wanted to impart lessons in
> responsible game management to her members, who are city girls, at
> least by Alaska's standards. Fairbanks is a city of nearly 30,000.
> "Trapping may not be pretty, but the girls understand the
> seriousness and huge responsibility of taking a life," Miss Boylan
> said. "They understand that when humans impact their environment, they
> become ultimately responsible for maintaining a healthy population of
> the animals they have to coexist with in these urban centers."
> Last spring, about 10 members of the Fairbanks troop and their
> families helped catch two beavers using a snare and lethal traps. The
> girls were taught how to find the animals' dens and how to lay the
> traps. Working under close supervision, the girls used knives to skin
> the beavers.
> The troop had the pelts tanned and plans to make hats and mittens
> once a dozen hides are collected. The girls also want to cook beaver
> meat. They plan to begin setting traps again this month.
> Officials at the Girl Scouts' New York headquarters did not return
> repeated calls. But in a Sept. 16 letter to PETA, spokeswoman Courtney
> Shore said the organization does not promote trapping or hunting and
> does not offer merit badges for those activities.
> Miss Shore noted that Troop 34, made up of 13 girls ages 10 to 12,
> participated after an invitation from the state Department of Fish and
> Game.
> "It is understandable why the troop responded positively when
> approached by a state authority to conduct an activity that is
> commonplace in that area of the country," Miss Shore wrote.
> The state-run Take a Kid Trapping program is aimed at controlling
> floods and other damage caused by an expanding beaver population along
> the lower Chena River in Fairbanks. It is open to children as young as
> 7.
> Alaskan Girl Scout leaders said the program is a "nonissue" in
> Fairbanks, where trapping has a long history. They said none of the
> girls would talk to reporters.
> "I feel like PETA doesn't have a concept that trapping is
> considered a heritage here in Alaska," said Mike McDougall, a trapper
> who worked with the scouts. "These kids are learning more than just
> how to take an animal. They're learning about ecology. They also got a
> definite sense of respect for the animals."
> The program is helping to curb a burgeoning population of the
> large rodents, which in Alaska can weigh up to 70 pounds. Their
> growing numbers are attributed to recent warm winters and a drop in
> commercial trapping.
> "Beavers are a valuable source of education for our young people,"
> said Tom Seaton, a state Fish and Game biologist. "Their carcasses can
> be used in many ways — for food, for warm garments. Almost everything
> about beavers is good except when they flood your yard or knock down
> live trees."

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 5:38 am
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Kudos to the troop leader! (Perhaps the ladies of PETA are confused
about just precisely what the word, beaver, refers to? That would
certainly explain why they are so upset!)

Lynn Circle

stevejdufour.DeleteThis@yahoo.com (Steve Dufour) wrote in message news:<744cc401.0311112215.291508ef.DeleteThis@posting.google.com>...
> Girl Scouts hunt beavers and fur flies
>
>
> By Rachel D''Oro
> ASSOCIATED PRESS
>
>
>
> ANCHORAGE, Alaska (AP) ? Let other Girl Scouts make bird feeders
> out of bleach bottles and glue together little birch-bark canoes.
> Troop 34 in Alaska is learning to trap and skin beavers.
> In a practice that has angered animal rights activists, the girls
> are killing the beavers as part of a state flood-management program.
> "We think it sends a very, very bad message that when animals
> cause a problem, you kill them," said Stephanie Boyles of People for
> the Ethical Treatment of Animals. She said the Girl Scouts should
> teach children to become "stewards of wildlife, not abusers."
> Troop 34 leader Dona Boylan said she wanted to impart lessons in
> responsible game management to her members, who are city girls, at
> least by Alaska's standards. Fairbanks is a city of nearly 30,000.
> "Trapping may not be pretty, but the girls understand the
> seriousness and huge responsibility of taking a life," Miss Boylan
> said. "They understand that when humans impact their environment, they
> become ultimately responsible for maintaining a healthy population of
> the animals they have to coexist with in these urban centers."
> Last spring, about 10 members of the Fairbanks troop and their
> families helped catch two beavers using a snare and lethal traps. The
> girls were taught how to find the animals' dens and how to lay the
> traps. Working under close supervision, the girls used knives to skin
> the beavers.
> The troop had the pelts tanned and plans to make hats and mittens
> once a dozen hides are collected. The girls also want to cook beaver
> meat. They plan to begin setting traps again this month.
> Officials at the Girl Scouts' New York headquarters did not return
> repeated calls. But in a Sept. 16 letter to PETA, spokeswoman Courtney
> Shore said the organization does not promote trapping or hunting and
> does not offer merit badges for those activities.
> Miss Shore noted that Troop 34, made up of 13 girls ages 10 to 12,
> participated after an invitation from the state Department of Fish and
> Game.
> "It is understandable why the troop responded positively when
> approached by a state authority to conduct an activity that is
> commonplace in that area of the country," Miss Shore wrote.
> The state-run Take a Kid Trapping program is aimed at controlling
> floods and other damage caused by an expanding beaver population along
> the lower Chena River in Fairbanks. It is open to children as young as
> 7.
> Alaskan Girl Scout leaders said the program is a "nonissue" in
> Fairbanks, where trapping has a long history. They said none of the
> girls would talk to reporters.
> "I feel like PETA doesn't have a concept that trapping is
> considered a heritage here in Alaska," said Mike McDougall, a trapper
> who worked with the scouts. "These kids are learning more than just
> how to take an animal. They're learning about ecology. They also got a
> definite sense of respect for the animals."
> The program is helping to curb a burgeoning population of the
> large rodents, which in Alaska can weigh up to 70 pounds. Their
> growing numbers are attributed to recent warm winters and a drop in
> commercial trapping.
> "Beavers are a valuable source of education for our young people,"
> said Tom Seaton, a state Fish and Game biologist. "Their carcasses can
> be used in many ways ? for food, for warm garments. Almost everything
> about beavers is good except when they flood your yard or knock down
> live trees."
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"Steve Dufour" <stevejdufour.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Girl Scouts hunt beavers and fur flies
>
>
> By Rachel D''Oro
> ASSOCIATED PRESS
>
>
>
> ANCHORAGE, Alaska (AP) - Let other Girl Scouts make bird feeders
> out of bleach bottles and glue together little birch-bark canoes.
> Troop 34 in Alaska is learning to trap and skin beavers.
> In a practice that has angered animal rights activists, the girls
> are killing the beavers as part of a state flood-management program.
> "We think it sends a very, very bad message that when animals
> cause a problem, you kill them," said Stephanie Boyles of People for
> the Ethical Treatment of Animals. She said the Girl Scouts should
> teach children to become "stewards of wildlife, not abusers."
> Troop 34 leader Dona Boylan said she wanted to impart lessons in
> responsible game management to her members, who are city girls, at
> least by Alaska's standards. Fairbanks is a city of nearly 30,000.
> "Trapping may not be pretty, but the girls understand the
> seriousness and huge responsibility of taking a life," Miss Boylan
> said. "They understand that when humans impact their environment, they
> become ultimately responsible for maintaining a healthy population of
> the animals they have to coexist with in these urban centers."
> Last spring, about 10 members of the Fairbanks troop and their
> families helped catch two beavers using a snare and lethal traps. The
> girls were taught how to find the animals' dens and how to lay the
> traps. Working under close supervision, the girls used knives to skin
> the beavers.
> The troop had the pelts tanned and plans to make hats and mittens
> once a dozen hides are collected. The girls also want to cook beaver
> meat. They plan to begin setting traps again this month.
> Officials at the Girl Scouts' New York headquarters did not return
> repeated calls. But in a Sept. 16 letter to PETA, spokeswoman Courtney
> Shore said the organization does not promote trapping or hunting and
> does not offer merit badges for those activities.
> Miss Shore noted that Troop 34, made up of 13 girls ages 10 to 12,
> participated after an invitation from the state Department of Fish and
> Game.
> "It is understandable why the troop responded positively when
> approached by a state authority to conduct an activity that is
> commonplace in that area of the country," Miss Shore wrote.
> The state-run Take a Kid Trapping program is aimed at controlling
> floods and other damage caused by an expanding beaver population along
> the lower Chena River in Fairbanks. It is open to children as young as
> 7.
> Alaskan Girl Scout leaders said the program is a "nonissue" in
> Fairbanks, where trapping has a long history. They said none of the
> girls would talk to reporters.
> "I feel like PETA doesn't have a concept that trapping is
> considered a heritage here in Alaska," said Mike McDougall, a trapper
> who worked with the scouts.

And in many parts of the world, sacrificing 10 to 12 year old virgins was a
part of the heritage!
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 9:52 pm
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> And in many parts of the world, sacrificing 10 to 12 year old virgins was a
> part of the heritage!

I don't think the beavers were virgins.
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In article <vr4s08ioofm50b.RemoveThis@corp.supernews.com>,
"ZenIsWhen" <ZenIsWhen.RemoveThis@anywhere.com> wrote:

> And in many parts of the world, sacrificing 10 to 12 year old virgins was a
> part of the heritage!

And in parts of alaska, some locals sacrafice Idiot PETA Dogooders......
they go out in the bush and just disappear..... Better stay home, and
mouth your opionions to yourself...........
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2003 11:26 pm
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I don't know what I'm laughing at more... the virgin beaver theory or
the Alaskan guide service for PETA. I'd stay and chat but I better get
to bed so I can get up early and go out hunting.
I think I'll cook me a nice venison steak tomorrow night... yum
yum...well done of course.. and I'll have a nice baked potato.. and some
corn that I rescued for the farmer by killing a couple dozen coons for
him that were eating my share and yours. Hm...I wonder what coon taste
like... maybe I'll ask a coyote next time I catch one in one of my
traps... just before I shoot it and skin it. :)

Me wrote:
> In article <vr4s08ioofm50b.RemoveThis@corp.supernews.com>,
> "ZenIsWhen" <ZenIsWhen.RemoveThis@anywhere.com> wrote:
>
>
>>And in many parts of the world, sacrificing 10 to 12 year old virgins was a
>>part of the heritage!
>
>
> And in parts of alaska, some locals sacrafice Idiot PETA Dogooders......
> they go out in the bush and just disappear..... Better stay home, and
> mouth your opionions to yourself...........
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2003 4:14 pm
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Girl Scouts should not be killing beaver unless they intend to eat
them.

Furthermore I do not beleive that the world is ready for Girl Scouts
to earn badges for eating beaver.
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2003 8:52 pm
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"Mike Crabs" <mike_crabs.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Girl Scouts should not be killing beaver unless they intend to eat
> them.
>
> Furthermore I do not beleive that the world is ready for Girl Scouts
> to earn badges for eating beaver.
====================
Boys Scouts then?
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2003 1:31 pm
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"rick etter" <retterstop RemoveThis @bright.net> wrote in message news:<cLWdnZH-UoopGyiiRVn-vw RemoveThis @bright.net>...
> "Mike Crabs" <mike_crabs RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:f9161a2d.0311141614.3c4eceaa@posting.google.com...
> > Girl Scouts should not be killing beaver unless they intend to eat
> > them.
> >
> > Furthermore I do not beleive that the world is ready for Girl Scouts
> > to earn badges for eating beaver.
> ====================
> Boys Scouts then?

The Boy Scouts are much more strict, I got kicked out for eating a brownie.
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2003 8:39 pm
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In article <3FB45980.9010904.TakeThisOut@nospam.nexicom.net>,
Bob <wolfz.TakeThisOut@nospam.nexicom.net> wrote:

> I don't know what I'm laughing at more... the virgin beaver theory or
> the Alaskan guide service for PETA. I'd stay and chat but I better get
> to bed so I can get up early and go out hunting.
> I think I'll cook me a nice venison steak tomorrow night... yum
> yum...well done of course.. and I'll have a nice baked potato.. and some
> corn that I rescued for the farmer by killing a couple dozen coons for
> him that were eating my share and yours. Hm...I wonder what coon taste
> like... maybe I'll ask a coyote next time I catch one in one of my
> traps... just before I shoot it and skin it. :)
>
> Me wrote:
> > In article <vr4s08ioofm50b.TakeThisOut@corp.supernews.com>,
> > "ZenIsWhen" <ZenIsWhen.TakeThisOut@anywhere.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>And in many parts of the world, sacrificing 10 to 12 year old virgins was a
> >>part of the heritage!
> >
> >
> > And in parts of alaska, some locals sacrafice Idiot PETA Dogooders......
> > they go out in the bush and just disappear..... Better stay home, and
> > mouth your opionions to yourself...........
>

We don't provide Guide Services for PETA or any other of the "whacko
enviormental groups" here. They usually come on "Floating Cities"
(cruise ships) and only in the summer, when they can get "Catsitters"
for the 35 cats they have around their splitlevel homes down in the
Lower World. These Idiots just wonder off into the bush and are never
heard from again...... I hear Katmi Brown Bears particularly like the
Malibu Tanned variety.......
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2003 8:20 am
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> I don't know what I'm laughing at more... the virgin beaver theory or
> the Alaskan guide service for PETA. I'd stay and chat but I better get
> to bed so I can get up early and go out hunting.
> I think I'll cook me a nice venison steak tomorrow night... yum
> yum...well done of course.. and I'll have a nice baked potato.. and some
> corn that I rescued for the farmer by killing a couple dozen coons for
> him that were eating my share and yours. Hm...I wonder what coon taste
> like... maybe I'll ask a coyote next time I catch one in one of my
> traps... just before I shoot it and skin it. :)

Sounds great. If I visit you I'll make sure it's just before supper
time.

One thing about the story that no one has mentioned is the question of
sexism. Would there be such a big uproar if Boy Scouts were doing
this? Why do people feel they have the right to tell the girls what
they shouldn't be doing?
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2003 3:07 pm
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ya, you can't stop at just one.

Mike Crabs wrote:
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>
>>"Mike Crabs" <mike_crabs.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>>
>>>Girl Scouts should not be killing beaver unless they intend to eat
>>>them.
>>>
>>>Furthermore I do not beleive that the world is ready for Girl Scouts
>>>to earn badges for eating beaver.
>>
>>====================
>>Boys Scouts then?
>
>
> The Boy Scouts are much more strict, I got kicked out for eating a brownie.
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