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Trai Dagucon Rathsack

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Since: Jun 08, 2004
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2004 11:03 am
Post subject: Female Angel and parasites
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Good afternoon all -

I have a pair of angels, the female, poor thing - when I got home the
day before yesterday, she had no right fin, and the other was also
bitten down far. The male was being aggressive AS I watched.

I'm having a few problems, hopefully you all can help me.

1: I moved the male angel out to a larger tank with a couple of silver
dollars (comparable size, so they won't get picked on too much) and
some other peaceful fish. What can I do to help the female angel heal
and regrow her fins?

2: I have a HORRIBLE problem with algae in the tank. I scrape and
clean at LEAST every 10 days. I change water. I used the water
conditioner. When I moved the male, I looked very closely at the
algae and AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH...some kind of parasite was on the
glass. A minute, slim, somewhat long thing. WHen I say long, I mean
in terms of its width. It looked and moved like (for a visual
reference) brine shrimp hatchlings. Except I only saw them on the
glass. I didn't see any on the fish, but she's silver and black and
the male is blush. They were everywhere. I used something in her
tank, but I have a problem now - I may have infected my main tank and
I have loaches in there.

Any ideas as to what the parasite is? I used a medicine for fish lice
and some other parasites, and that knocked them down a peg. I still
saw some this morning though

ANy help is appreciated,

Trai

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2004 1:06 pm
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Hello,

what is an angel? Why are you worried about alge? what kind of water do you
have, and fish? Nitrate and fosfate?

Regards,

Luis Alves
"Trai Dagucon Rathsack" wrote in message

> Good afternoon all -
>
> I have a pair of angels, the female, poor thing - when I got home the
> day before yesterday, she had no right fin, and the other was also
> bitten down far. The male was being aggressive AS I watched.
>
> I'm having a few problems, hopefully you all can help me.
>
> 1: I moved the male angel out to a larger tank with a couple of silver
> dollars (comparable size, so they won't get picked on too much) and
> some other peaceful fish. What can I do to help the female angel heal
> and regrow her fins?
>
> 2: I have a HORRIBLE problem with algae in the tank. I scrape and
> clean at LEAST every 10 days. I change water. I used the water
> conditioner. When I moved the male, I looked very closely at the
> algae and AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH...some kind of parasite was on the
> glass. A minute, slim, somewhat long thing. WHen I say long, I mean
> in terms of its width. It looked and moved like (for a visual
> reference) brine shrimp hatchlings. Except I only saw them on the
> glass. I didn't see any on the fish, but she's silver and black and
> the male is blush. They were everywhere. I used something in her
> tank, but I have a problem now - I may have infected my main tank and
> I have loaches in there.
>
> Any ideas as to what the parasite is? I used a medicine for fish lice
> and some other parasites, and that knocked them down a peg. I still
> saw some this morning though
>
> ANy help is appreciated,
>
> Trai

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Trai Dagucon Rathsack

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2004 9:23 am
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Luis,

Angelfish - that's what an Angel is. I don't have tank specs, i.e.,
phosphates, nitrate, etc. I have a 25 gal with one female angelfish,
2 small swordtails.

As far as the Algae goes - if I let it go, it gets so bad I can't see
into the tank. That's only happened once. Not only does it look
disgusting in my dining room, but I can't see the fish I paid for.
THat's my problem with the algae - that and it can't be good for the
fish.

thanks,
Trai

"Lma" wrote in message ...
> Hello,
>
> what is an angel? Why are you worried about alge? what kind of water do you
> have, and fish? Nitrate and fosfate?
>
> Regards,
>
> Luis Alves
> "Trai Dagucon Rathsack" wrote in message
>
> > Good afternoon all -
> >
> > I have a pair of angels, the female, poor thing - when I got home the
> > day before yesterday, she had no right fin, and the other was also
> > bitten down far. The male was being aggressive AS I watched.
> >
> > I'm having a few problems, hopefully you all can help me.
> >
> > 1: I moved the male angel out to a larger tank with a couple of silver
> > dollars (comparable size, so they won't get picked on too much) and
> > some other peaceful fish. What can I do to help the female angel heal
> > and regrow her fins?
> >
> > 2: I have a HORRIBLE problem with algae in the tank. I scrape and
> > clean at LEAST every 10 days. I change water. I used the water
> > conditioner. When I moved the male, I looked very closely at the
> > algae and AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH...some kind of parasite was on the
> > glass. A minute, slim, somewhat long thing. WHen I say long, I mean
> > in terms of its width. It looked and moved like (for a visual
> > reference) brine shrimp hatchlings. Except I only saw them on the
> > glass. I didn't see any on the fish, but she's silver and black and
> > the male is blush. They were everywhere. I used something in her
> > tank, but I have a problem now - I may have infected my main tank and
> > I have loaches in there.
> >
> > Any ideas as to what the parasite is? I used a medicine for fish lice
> > and some other parasites, and that knocked them down a peg. I still
> > saw some this morning though
> >
> > ANy help is appreciated,
> >
> > Trai
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RedForeman ©®

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2004 1:53 pm
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|| As far as the Algae goes - if I let it go, it gets so bad I can't see
|| into the tank. That's only happened once. Not only does it look
|| disgusting in my dining room, but I can't see the fish I paid for.
|| THat's my problem with the algae - that and it can't be good for the
|| fish.

Algae has no effect on fish... period... no effect. In fact, algae has some
benefits to some fish... as food, algae grazers require a bit of algae to
supplement their diets... other fish, that's all they eat..

in your specific case, maybe you don't like the algae, but it's got no
consequence on the fish...

In my case, I want algae... in some places... it's aesthetically pleasing in
some ways.. For your aquarium, if you find that you dont' want to see it,
scrape your glass and it's gone... if it's everywhere, that's a whole
different story...

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Trai Dagucon Rathsack

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2004 9:46 am
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> In my case, I want algae... in some places... it's aesthetically pleasing in
> some ways.. For your aquarium, if you find that you dont' want to see it,
> scrape your glass and it's gone... if it's everywhere, that's a whole
> different story...
>


My concerns - and the post seems to have gotten away from what I was
more concerned about - were more about the parasites and fin problems.
The algae is an annoyance. There was nothing pleasing about not
being able to see into my 25 hex due to algae on every pane.

I was more interested to hear what kind of treatment I could use, or
how long it will take, for the angel's fins to grow back properly. As
I've said, the male has been separated from the female to give her a
chance to heal. I"ve even put in a couple small fish for her to have
as tank mates - also so she can chase them around a bit if she feels
the need. They are quick and unbothered by her.

As far as the algae goes, I do scrape. When I do, the water gets so
cloudy from the floating green algae, that it has to irritate her.
The smaller fish do like it, but there is too much.

Trai
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RedForeman ©®

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2004 12:51 pm
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||| In my case, I want algae... in some places... it's aesthetically
||| pleasing in some ways.. For your aquarium, if you find that you
||| dont' want to see it, scrape your glass and it's gone... if it's
||| everywhere, that's a whole different story...
|||
||
||
|| My concerns - and the post seems to have gotten away from what I was
|| more concerned about - were more about the parasites and fin
|| problems. The algae is an annoyance. There was nothing pleasing
|| about not being able to see into my 25 hex due to algae on every
|| pane.
||
|| I was more interested to hear what kind of treatment I could use, or
|| how long it will take, for the angel's fins to grow back properly.
|| As I've said, the male has been separated from the female to give
|| her a chance to heal. I"ve even put in a couple small fish for her
|| to have as tank mates - also so she can chase them around a bit if
|| she feels the need. They are quick and unbothered by her.
||
|| As far as the algae goes, I do scrape. When I do, the water gets so
|| cloudy from the floating green algae, that it has to irritate her.
|| The smaller fish do like it, but there is too much.
||
|| Trai

For the most part, if you've got floating green algae aka, green water, it's
an algae bloom from either being fed too much or something in the tank is
out of balance... too much of something and not enough of others....

that, alone, will stress enough fish that it could cause a problem... but
since I can't make heads or tails of your post, I'll bow out and let a
professional help you...

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2004 3:18 pm
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"Trai Dagucon Rathsack" wrote in message

> Good afternoon all -
>
> I have a pair of angels, the female, poor thing - when I got home the
> day before yesterday, she had no right fin, and the other was also
> bitten down far. The male was being aggressive AS I watched.
>
> I'm having a few problems, hopefully you all can help me.
>
> 1: I moved the male angel out to a larger tank with a couple of silver
> dollars (comparable size, so they won't get picked on too much) and
> some other peaceful fish. What can I do to help the female angel heal
> and regrow her fins?
>
> 2: I have a HORRIBLE problem with algae in the tank. I scrape and
> clean at LEAST every 10 days. I change water. I used the water
> conditioner. When I moved the male, I looked very closely at the
> algae and AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH...some kind of parasite was on the
> glass. A minute, slim, somewhat long thing. WHen I say long, I mean
> in terms of its width. It looked and moved like (for a visual
> reference) brine shrimp hatchlings. Except I only saw them on the
> glass. I didn't see any on the fish, but she's silver and black and
> the male is blush. They were everywhere. I used something in her
> tank, but I have a problem now - I may have infected my main tank and
> I have loaches in there.
>
> Any ideas as to what the parasite is? I used a medicine for fish lice
> and some other parasites, and that knocked them down a peg. I still
> saw some this morning though
>
> ANy help is appreciated,
>
> Trai



treat the Angelfish with Melafix or Primafix available from your local
fish store. Works wonders, is all natural and will not harm the biological
filter. What you are likely seeing on the glass is a worm and not a
parasite. Very common in tank, particularly if you have been overfeeding
which can also account for part of your algae problem Fish food is high in
phosphate and overfeeding will cause algae issues. Clean your glass well,
vacuum the gravel after cleaning the glass and giving the algae time to
settle to the bottom, cut your feeding way down. Feed small amounts, just
enough for the fish to eat and that none settles to the bottom of the
aquarium and providing you aquarium is not sitting where outside light gets
to it for a large part of the day, your algae should clear up. The worms are
harmless although they can attack new born fry or eggs. It escapes me at the
moment what to use to get rid of them, possibly something like an Ich
medication, Quick Cure or similar however if you do a google search on this
group for worms you will no doubt get your answers.

Rick
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