Doubletalk

From: ThePuppyWizard (ThePuppyWizard@netscape.net)
Subject: Re: Praising BAD Behaviors Is GOOD
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs.behavior, rec.pets.dogs.misc,
Date: 2003-03-03 02:53:48 PST


> "Jerry Howe" <jhowe2 DeleteThis @bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:K0eY9.4548$zt5.268@news.bellsouth.net...
>> HOWEDY People,
>> This post will cover most of what you never thought
>> of and MOORE than you already know about stuff...

Pretty compellin STUFF, eh?

The Puppy Wizzzard has proven HOWER experts DEAD
WRONG... and now they're gonna be called to task...

TRUST The Puppy Wizzzard.

HOWEDY lying "I LOVE KOEHLER" lynn,

"Lynn K." <javagsd DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:37cd72a9.0302012201.15f47c3d@posting.google.com...
> dfrntdrums DeleteThis @aol.comMURK-OFF (Leah) wrote in message news:
>> However, there's a difference between a trainer
>> who uses a basic method of positive reinforcement

A basic method of positive reinforcement with as
much PAIN as necessary.

> and one who uses a basic method of positive punishment.

Yeah... we got to make up new words for PAIN FEAR
and INTIMIDATION.

> No, there isn't. I'm trying to tell you that those labels are
> advertising buzz words and have nothing to do with training.

You're a proven liar and dog abuser, lying "I LOVE KOEHLER" lynn.

> What you are really talking about is differences in the tools

You mean pain infliction devices... of which you prefer to USE ALL
OF THEM.

> and techniques used to deliver positive reinforcement
> and positive punishment.

Anybody who punishes a dumb animal is a CRIMINAL
or INSANE person.

You HOWEver, are BOTH.

> The fact remains

FOREVER and A DAY. You're MARKED FOR LIFE, lying
"I LOVE KOEHLER" lynn.

> that every competent trainer uses both

That's a lie so folks will think EVERYBODY HURTS
DOGS like you do.

> and doesn't choose one over the other.

Do the dogs MAKE you HURT them, lying "I LOVE
KOEHELR" lynn?

> What the dog does dictates whether reinforcement
> or punishment is called for;

Is that so? You mean THE DOG TELLS YOU HE NEEDS
TO BE HURT someMOORE?

> whether the dog's behavior is to be terminated or continued.

We don't work with the dog's BEHAVIOR because by
the time you SEE the dog's behavior the THOUGHT
PROCESS is FINISHED and you can neither reinforce
or punish... cause that's JUST HOWE IT IS, lying "I LOVE KOEHLER"
lynn...

You hurt dogs because you're not intelligent enough
to outwit the cunning of the domestic puppy dogs even
after The Puppy Wizzzard's FREE WWW Wits' End
Dog Training Method Manual Student's tell you HOWE
THEY DO IT.

> It's impossible to choose either as a basic method
> unless you allow a dog to do anything he/she wants

Yeah, like somethin YOU want too?

> and wait around with clicker & treat in hand

No. That's what makes dogs ANXIOUS and causes
OCD behaviors.

> for the dog to offer a behavior

Yeah. That's what precipitates OCD behaviors, like SEIZURES.

> you want to reinforce :-)

"REINFORCEMENT NEVER ENDS." That's on
account of you use FORCE, not training.

> Or the reverse, only tell the dog what he/she can't do,

You can't DO that without makin a enemy of the dog... that's
HOWE COME we BRIEFLY distract and INSTANTLY praise
for 5 to 15 seconds and ALLOW the dog to make HIS choice
of COMPATIBLE BEHAVIORS.

> without ever teaching what behaviors you want.

Yeah... That's HOWE COME you got to HURT dogs and
that's HOWE COME The Puppy Wizzzard's NEARLY
INSTANTLY successful FREE WWW Wits' End Dog
Training Method Students train their dogs NEARLY
INSTANTLY without bribery fear or force...

You're OUTTA BUSINESS, lying "I LOVE KOEHLER" lynn.

> Sure, there are still a few trainers around who teach
> heeling as a moving exercise with collar pops instead
> of targeting.

Like you do? You HURT dogs to train them.

> That doesn't not make them positive punishment
> trainers anymore than it makes someone like
> Dawn Jecs a positive reinforcement trainer.

Nobody cares about your lying dog abusing Thug Coward
Punk pals, we're talking about YOU being a LIAR and DOG ABUSER.

> The labels are misleading

Not noMOORE... The Puppy Wizzzard has labeled you
a liar and dog abuser... along with most of HOWER forum.

> and confuse the public.

Yeah. The Puppy Wizzzard intends to UNCONFUSE the
pubic and use YOU as a EXXXAMPLE, IN COURT... on
charges of ANIMAL ABUSE.

> And have nothing at all to do with a trainer's competency

You hurt and kill dogs.

> or whether or not a client should be referred.

You're a fraud, a liar, a dog abuser, and probably a
thief, like leah. EXXXCEPT worse...

> Lynn K.

Chris Williams writes:"The FREE Wits' End Dog
Training Method manual I do find valuable. Much
of it I recognize as what I've always done without
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trauma."

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From: Chris Williams (k9apple@webtv.net)
Subject: Re: Thank you Jerry HoweDate:
2002-03-26 08:16:19 PST

Engrossing account, Anthony. Our best to Angel
and your family.

A friend, who socializes the kittens I've taken
from a feral cat colony, is using the DDR.

She reports far fewer panic problems than
she's had before.

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