HOWEDY john,
"John McMahon" <jmcm01.RemoveThis@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:BjMUc.275128$a24.269344@attbi_s03...
>
> suggestions on stopping dog - golden retriever -
> from scratching door to get in or out.
You're askin lying dog abusing punkg thug
cowards and active long term incurable
MENTAL CASES for advice for the same
problems they got and CAN'T TRAIN.
> Donna McMahon
You could train your dog not to do
that NEARLY INSTANTLY if you
wanted to learn HOWE.
Evidently you'd PREFER NOT TO LEARN
HOWE or you'd NEVER write to these lying
dog abusing mentally ill cowards, donna.
DECENT PEOPLE DO NOT POST HERE.
From: Kind2dogs (kind2dogs@aol.com)
Subject: Jerry says.,...
Date: 2001-06-12 08:52:45 PST
Many of you have him kill filed,and I don't
blame you. I have also chosen not to read
him as of late.
BUT perhaps that is why we have to read
him as the things he says are way off the top...
Did you read where Jerry says he doesn't
have to get up from his seat at all to train dogs?
Did you read where Jerry says he can
do a 100% recall in less than an hour?
Jerry...
A LEGEND IN HIS OWN MIND....
A dogs life is too short...
Their only fault really...
"Dan Moore" <mooreteam.RemoveThis@worldnet.att.net>
wrote in message
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...
>
> Tracy,
>
> What worked for me, in just one storm,
> was to praise the dog after each clap
> of thunder, telling him he's a Good Dog!
>
> This is an almost 13 year old Doberman, BTW.
>
> The next time it thundered, he did not even
> react at all--you could not tell it was the same
> dog as before.
>
> There was more thunder just the other day,
> and same thing, nada, nothing, zilch, no
> cowering, whimpering, trying to hide at all,
> it was that simple.
>
> I got this idea from Jerry Howe, who might seem
> to be a "wild and crazy" character, but his non-
> abusive way of handling dogs WORKS.
>
> Wonderfully.
>
> Praise.
>
> It's that simple.
>
> Juanita
Here's a former regular who hasn't posted since:
"If I Knew It Would Be That Easy, I Would Have
Done This A Long Time Ago Saving Myself 5
Years Of Dealing With A Bouncy, Over Excited
Dog!" Jenn.
Hello Jenn,
"brijen" <brijen.RemoveThis@vennercnospams.com> wrote in message
news:397cfaa3_1@news.oanet.com...
> Hello Jerry,
>
> I just wanted to let you know that I am
> trying this right now.
Good.
> I am the woman who wrote to you a while
> ago about trying to walk my dog without
> the pinch collar.
I recall.
> She also goes APE when I grab the leash.
> We have been doing this technique you
> recommend for about a half an hour now
> and the results are already fantastic, as
> well as amusing!
Yeah, dog training should always be more
fun than work.
> At first, we went out and I stood there,
> and Anya kept trying to head out to the
> sidewalk. When I didn't follow, she came
> and sat beside me at heel! (Thanks to
> your help!) She'd NEVER done that before.
It's the same principle as in the Hot
And Cold Exercise.
> I rewarded that with a few steps of
> a walk, but we came in after about
> 30 seconds. She stopped and looked
> at me as if she were thinking, "What?
> But we just got out here!"
>
> The second and third times, she was
> even MORE eager when she saw the
> leash, and I got the same look when
> I turned around to go back in. The
> fourth time, she just bounced a bit as
> she walked to the door with me, and
> sat nicely to wait until I hooked up the
> leash, and this last time, I HAD TO CALL
> HER TO ME!!!!!!!!!!
Fine. That's because dogs learn on the basis of
four repetitions. That's not to say they can't learn
some things faster, but for breaking habits, it
usually happens the fourth time we repeat a lesson.
Then we need to repeat the lesson at three more
locations our time in each to generalize the idea.
Let's say your dog gets excited when you take her
lead and go to the front door. She would probably
do the same at the back door, but to not such a degree.
Likewise for any other door.
It would behoove you to repeat the exercise with
several other doors and it would be easiest to
start with a door that had less excitement involved
with it.
> If I knew it would be that easy, I would have
> done this a long time ago saving myself 5
> years of dealing with a bouncy, over excited dog!
The non force methods work fast and easy
because we are not challenging the dog or
calling our attention to their behavior problems.
> I have to tell you how the walk is going
> though. I have a lot of problems there,
> but it is all ME.
>
> I have been so conditioned to "correct"
> her, that I still find myself yanking on
> her collar.
Yes, those habits are hard to break. It's easier for
me to train a person who has no experience at all
because they have no bad habits of pulling and
forcing control.
> I feel so awful! We have only been working
> in the yard without distractions, because I
> honestly don't know what will happen if she
> sees another dog and I won't have the pinch
> collar to keep her from dragging me over for
> a fight.
You know that working the dog in the back
yard is not preferable, because that causes
them some anxiety because it's their free
area. But with your dog and with the difficulty
he is to handle, I don't see any reason you
shouldn't do the Family Leadership Exercise
and the come command several times out there,
and then you'll have the control to do it in a
more neutral area.
> The upside is, when I take the leash off it's
> hook and don't take the pinch collar, her
> excitement to go for a walk is NO LONGER
> combined with the intense fear I used to see
> in her eyes at the sight of the pinch!
Our group likes to think that is EXCITEMENT
and eagerness to work. It is sheer terror. The
pinch collar works by overriding the opposition
reflex through fear and that cause tremendous
stress and anxiety that must be released through
anxiety relief mechanisms like barking, digging,
whining, chewing, self mutilation and aggression.
> That does it for me. I can't believe I instilled
> fear in my beautiful dog just for the sake that
> I didn't know how to train. Well, I still don't
> know how, but I'm learning!
That's where I was three dozen years ago. I was
ready to just quit. I wasn't going to sour any more
dogs to make them work.
> Thanks for your help. Please send more
> suggestions if you saw something I could
> be doing differently!
> Jenn & Anya
I was thinking about your difficulties with your
dog. Just getting the Hot And Cold Exercise and
the Family Leadership Exercise and the come
command installed will solve most of your
difficulty with him.
I presume you've got msn messenger. We can
speak over that if you are set up for it, and I
can demonstrate the timing and tone and tempo
for using sound distractions and praise, or we
could speak on the phone.
The most important thing to remember is to
pick up and handle the lead in a relaxed manner,
no white knuckles, keep your elbow relaxed and
your arm down at your side with the length of the
lead breaking just below the knee.
Let me know if you need further help.
Jerry.
"Leprechaun" <Leprechaun.RemoveThis@attglobal.net> wrote in message
news:m01Hc.20882$uK.16329@twister.tampabay.rr.com...
> >Jerry believes he's a dog trainer.
>
> Fortunately, I happen to believe he is too.
> I took a rescued three year old beagle that
> had been kept outside all of its life that didn't
> even recognize or respond to its name to
> Jerry's home (That ugly cinder block shack???
> get real) and in just over one hour of working
> with the dog, he was coming on command
> (not a quickly as he does now, but still...) and
> walking with us on a loose lead.
>
> His "hot/cold" exercise and "come when called"
> command and pack exercise WORK!
>
> > and in all likelihood he's never even been
> > near a dog.
>
> Well, he's been near mine, and done wonders
> for him.
>
> You don't have to like him. You don't have
> to agree with his methods, but as far as I
> am concerned, I've never seen any other
> training approach that was as fast and easy.
>
> <<<< Rest of original post deleted >>>>
>
> Ron Flanagan
> Orlando, Florida
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> "Zack Pellers" <ZackPellers.RemoveThis@GUESSWHERE.cc>
> wrote in message
> dlinge1.RemoveThis@towson.edu (Derek) wrote in news:
> 697700b8.0405202039.5c7374b9.RemoveThis@posting.google.com:
>
> Your dog needs to be retrained.
> Contact Mr. Jerry Howe.
>
> Http://www.DoggyDoRight.com
>
> You can start by downloading the free training
> manual available on the site above. I used it on
> my 4 year old Fila Brasileiro.
>
> When I first brought him home from rescue, he
> was similar to the way you decribed your dog.
> After using Mr. Howe's training method, the dog
> was cured within 72 hours.
>
> -Jack
Hi, Jerry.
I'm not sure that I'm a 100% convert, or that
I agree with (or even understand) 100% of
what you say in this manual ... BUT ... we had
"come" down pat in a few reps and you could
have knocked me down when I tried the exercise
with "drop" and, after a few reps in different spots
Darwin practically *threw* the rubber ball at my
feet on command.
He's still not perfect (just a pup, after all, and
he's stubborn enough to want to push and test
me a little bit more).
For what it's worth, I can see (as no doubt
you have) how your usenet manner is likely
to rankle a few folks, but that woman who
advocates ear pulling and beating with sticks
deserves everything she gets.
Even if that was the only method that would
work, I'd live with my dog not fetching rather
than do any of that. (Darwin fetches
enthusiastically and instinctively, tho').
Best, ben
===================
Original Message -----
From: Lindalee
To: Jerry Howe
Sent: Saturday, November 02, 2002 2:37 PM
Subject: Re: dog aggression -
Today Seemed Like A Miracle -
WELCOME TO WITS' END DOG TRAINING!
Sunshine is still acting like a new dog!
Saw a dog today and "good boy-" worked
along with calling him-came the first time
every time. Not even a sound out of him.
Think it is hard for him but he never even
seemed to think about going off-reacting.
The word come has no affect on him just
the phrase- -Sunshine come goodboy.
----- Original Message -----
From: <>
To: "Jerry Howe" <jhowe2.RemoveThis@bellsouth.net>
Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2002 5:21 PM
Subject: Re: Damned Family Leadership Exercise -
Re: Am I expecting to much
Hi Jerry,
When I talked to you on the phone to order
to machine for daughter's new pup, I told
you that I had an older Chessie. I rescued
him at 9 years old and have had him for 3 years.
It's funny, but I thought I'd try some of your book
training with him. Where I used to say "come" and
then say "good boy" when he obeyed, I have reversed
it with a "good boy" first.
It really does work.
He was very confused at first, wondering
what he had done to get the praise.
But it really gets the attention and distracts
him from whatever he may have going through
his brain when he hears it.
Dogs are funny, but people are too. Can't
wait to get the Doggy do Right, etc.
Thanks,
N
=========
"Greg M. Silverman" <gmsNOSPAM.RemoveThis@no.umn.edu> wrote in message
Hey, Mr. Wizard, or Alchemist or whatever
your alias of the day is, have to say that
our dog heels much better than she did.
This is after reading and implementing the
bit in your "Wits End" treatise.
And she's a royal nutter (but then again,
aren't they all?).
Cheers! Greg--
--------------------
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 9:06 AM
Hello.
I never posted here (or anywhere) before.
I never trained or owned a dog before this
year.
I downloaded the Wit's End, read it, corresponded
with Mr. Howe and trained my dog to come and to
stop barking in a weekend.
Our dog, Jake, had been treated with kindness the
whole time we had him, about 10 months, but his
earlier life is unknown.
I worked on the hot-cold exercise for about 30
minutes when he suddenly "got it". After that
he came to me every time with no hesitation.
I used the cans filled with pennies to teach him
not to bark. If he now starts to bark, I go to the
door or window, say "Good Boy, its' alright" and
he usually calms down right away.
A couple of times I had to get the cans
out again to reinforce the behavior.
We feel a strong bond with this animal
and he is very eager to accept our love.
So with all the vitriolic spewing going on,
I have to believe Mr. Howe is right.
His method worked for us.
I don't know if it would have been quite
as effective if we had tried another method first.
Florence
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"Hennie van Dalen" <h.vandalen11***removethis***@chello.nl>
wrote in message news:TlsCb.2895$7U1.7896@amstwist00...
RTFM is age-old computer lingo....
It stands for "Read The F***ing Manual" ;-)
I used the manual and it works very good!
But it is a long text to read (76 pages printed on
A4-size paper) My lab is 1year old now, and teaching
him something new takes about 30minutes (depending
on what to teach offcourse)
My other dog (a 7year old staffordshire terrier-mix)
is a bit slower in learning, but he is used to me
calling him a "bad dog"whenever he did something
i didn't want him to do, or it might be the age.
Sometimes it looks like Sam (the lab) WANTS
to learn something new: he wants me to bring
along the can filled with washers whenever we
go for a walk.
It is a very "humane" way of teaching: the
dog is allways a "good dog", and never a
"bad dog"
There is nu punishment or prong-collars involved.
For a fact i tought him to heel in 15min's without
beeing on a leach at-all !!! When he spotted a dog,
he used to run towards it, but now i tought him to
"ask permission" first, and to my surprise it worked!
My dogs never went to puppy-training (lucky
for them), maybe this helped too.
Manual can be found at
http://www.doggydoright.com/id3.html
-- Hennie van Dalen
www.chello.nl/~h.vandalen11
www.chello.nl/~h.vandalen11/fotografie/doggy-pictures/
"Speech is a mirror of the soul: as a man speaks,
so is he." Publilius Syrus, First century B.C., Maxim 1073
"We are what we do."
From: Marshall Dermer (dermer@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu)
Subject: Re: Jerry's Dog Training Manual
Date: 2001-07-12 06:49:13 PST
>Paul B wrote:
>> While the concept of shake cans is not new,
>> I haven't read any other advice that says to
>> praise immediately regardless of what the dog
>> does next (the common advice is to praise once
>> the dog is doing a desired behaviour or at least
>> stopped the unwanted behaviour), this is unique
>> to Jerry (and Marilyn) and from my own
>> experiences is an important part of the process.
And how do we know this aspect of his
advice is right?
Jerry is not God and his manual is not the Bible.
His advice could be subject to an empirical analysis.
--Marshall
=================
"Marshall Dermer" <dermer.RemoveThis@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu>
wrote in message news:9ihtee$7ib$1@uwm.edu...
>
From: Paul B (NOSPAMpanders@zfree.co.nz)
Subject: Re: Jerry's Dog Training Manual
Date: 2001-07-12 00:13:28 PST
Hello Marshall,
The way I view it from my observation of how
my dogs react is that the distraction interrupts
the dogs thought, not for good or bad, just
interrupts, the dog is therefore distracted for
a second and then will either continue the
behaviour or do something else.
The praise reassures the dog that the sound
distraction is not a threat or punishment,
however if everytime the dog resumes a
particular behaviour it's distracted immediately
(and praised immediately for reassurance) then
it quickly decides this behaviour is not fulfilling
and it ceases.
A dog will offer another behaviour in it's place
and if that is acceptable to us then we let it be
otherwise the distraction continues until a suitable
alternate behaviour is offered.
One example, Sam used to jump up on me
when I arrived home, I would shake can to
distract him right at the moment he was
about to jump up, after about 4 repetitions
he tried sitting and offering me his paw, of
course this was fine so I let it be.
While the concept of shake cans is not new,
I haven't read any other advice that says to
praise immediately regardless of what the
dog does next (the common advice is to
praise once the dog is doing a desired
behaviour or at least stopped the unwanted
behaviour), this is unique to Jerry (and Marilyn)
and from my own experiences is an important
part of the process.
> Thanks Paul! He does recommend praising
> a dog for barking, but he appears to recognize
> that this may not work and so distraction
> is recommended as a back up procedure:
"Estel J. Hines" <ejhines.RemoveThis@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:w86dna9lBfNZgbTdRVn-hA@comcast.com...
>
>>> Until i read the Jerry method of Bark
>>> reduction, it went something like this
>>> with our 11 month old puppy "Yoshi"
>
>>> Yoshi: Bark, bark,
>
>>> us: HUSH Youshi
>
>>> Yoshi Bark, bark......................
>
>>> us: Hush Youshi
>
>>> Yoshi BARK, BARK, BARK, ................................. >
>>> it stopped when Yoshi got tired barking
>
>>> We decided to try the Jerry method
>
>>> :Yoshi: BARK, BARK
>
>>> US: GOOD Yoshi, Good Boy, who is it?
>
>>> Yoshi Bark, Bark
>
>>> US: It's ok, good boy Yoshi, We know them.
>
>>> Yosh without fail, now stops after we say that.
>
>>> I must say, it is so much more fun, when we
>>> can praise him, to deal with things like this.
>
>>> Thanks Jerry
>
>>> ps: We are just starting to go thru the Jerry
>>> Papers, and learn how to live with our son
>>> "Yoshi", whom we love very much. --
>
>>> Best Regards,
>>> Estel J. Hines
==============
> There really is NOTHING new about
> the advice above!
Nuthin EXXXCEPT HOWE IT'S DONE.
"Ned" <komodo71.RemoveThis@rogers.com> wrote in message
news:fQIg9.25850$561.25365@news02.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com...
> Hi !
> Our black lab girl is 3 months old (she
> will be 4 months on the 30th).
>
> When we first brought her home she had
> a bad habit of trying to nip our faces (including
> my 3 year old twins) during playtime. It drove
> everyone in the house nuts and it brought my
> little girls to tears as you can imagine.
>
> We tried saying no, and that would just get
> her even more excited, so we would yell no
> and that would just get her "scared" but still
> excited. In short it just wasn't working.
>
> So we finally did what Jerry has suggested
> to you. We used a sound do distract her and
> we would immediately praise her.
>
> I have to say that it worked great. BUT she
> then moved on to nipping at the feet LOL silly
> little thing.
>
> So again, we tried no, and then louder no,
> but again it didn't work so we went for the
> distraction and praise.
>
> I must say that she is doing great!
>
> I hope that helps.
> Edyta aka Ned
===================
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 9:06 AM
Hello.
I never posted here (or anywhere) before.
I never trained or owned a dog before this
year.
I downloaded the Wit's End, read it, corresponded
with Mr. Howe and trained my dog to come and to
stop barking in a weekend.
Our dog, Jake, had been treated with kindness the
whole time we had him, about 10 months, but his
earlier life is unknown.
I worked on the hot-cold exercise for about 30
minutes when he suddenly "got it". After that
he came to me every time with no hesitation.
I used the cans filled with pennies to teach him
not to bark. If he now starts to bark, I go to the
door or window, say "Good Boy, its' alright" and
he usually calms down right away.
A couple of times I had to get the cans
out again to reinforce the behavior.
We feel a strong bond with this animal
and he is very eager to accept our love.
So with all the vitriolic spewing going on,
I have to believe Mr. Howe is right.
His method worked for us.
I don't know if it would have been quite
as effective if we had tried another method first.
Florence
------------------------------------
----- Original Message -----
From: "nicole" <To: "Jerald D. Howe">
Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 10:46 AM
Subject: Off to a good start!
Hi Jerald, Just wanted to tell you we read
your manual and have started working with
the dogs...
"Chloe" (the one we adopted--a. k. a.
"The Destroyer") has already shown
great improvement! (In Just 1 DAY!)
She responds even better than our other
(better-behaved) dog "Poe".
We tried out the surrogate toy technique, and
not a thing was touched when we got back!
We were both surprised because Chloe isn't
that interested in toys and was still very uptight
about us reaching for the door... anyway, it
seemed to work.
We both work all day today so we'll see
how that goes... Regardless, we will be
cool as cukes when we get home! ;)
I'm just so thankful we might have a chance
to get through to her! We're very excited about
her progress thus far...
Thank You!
Nicole, Michael, Poe and especially Chloe!
__________________________________
> Sound distraction may be understood in
> terms of the more general behavior analytic
> approach as follows.
>
> The distracting stimulus
Like a SCRUFF SHAKE, professor?
>evokes a behavior that is incompatible with barking.
You mean like SCREAMING "NO!" into ITS face
for 5 seconds?
> The dog engages in some other behavior
NO, professor SCRUFF SHAKE.
THAT AIN'T HOWE IT WORKS.
> and then is reinforced (if praise functions
> as a reinforcer).
NO, professor.
You don't UNDERSTAND the METHOD.
> --Marshal
From: Marshall Dermer (dermer@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu)
Subject: Re: Jerry's Dog Training Manual
Date: 2001-07-10 13:34:38 PST
In article <HRI27.3908$187.184000@news-rep.ab.videon.ca> "Jenn"
<dont.RemoveThis@try.it> writes:
>
> Hi Lynn,
>
> I used to have a barking problem with my
> German Shepherd Dog a couple of years ago.
> I tried several things recommended to me by
> different trainers, and nothing was working.
>
> When I read that section of Jerry's Manual,
> I thought the same way you did.
>
> "What???? PRAISE her for barking?" It sounded
> counterproductive, but I had tried everything else
> I'd heard so I thought I'd try it too.
>
> Next time she went nuts at a person walking by
> outside, I told her, "Good job! Good girl! You are
> such a good protector!" And instead of continuing
> the barking, she came to me for a belly rub! She
> will still bark (she's a guard dog, that's her job),
> but after one bark, she knows she's done her job
> to warn me by my praise, and she stops.
> Jenn,
Could you be so kind as to post here the
section from Jerry's manual where he
writes that you should JUST praise the
dog when it barks?????????
As I recall, I thought he first advocates
distracting the dog from barking, with
keys or the soft sound of pennies in a
can, before praising.
Perhaps you can tutor me regarding
Jerry's system.
Thanks in advance!
--Marshall Dermer
PS: I don't read Jerry's posts but I look
forward to your post.
From: Marshall Dermer (dermer@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu)
Subject: Re: Clicker training "stay"
Date: 2001-06-21 20:25:38 PST
In article <iqtY6.5456$rA2.1119871@news-rep.ab.videon.ca> "Jenn"
<dont.RemoveThis@try.it> writes:
>
> Hi, DogStar716, sorry you feel this way about
> me. I hope I can change your mind in the future,
> as I love reading your posts, and value (and
> have used) some of your advice.
BWWWWWEEEJAJAJAJAJAJAAAAA!!!
> As for my post to Jer, I am just attempting
> to get a plain answer about something instead
> of a trash- fest. I just want to know if it can be
> done.
>
> Jenn Standring
I'm not Jerry but sure you could use a clicker to
distract a dog but that is not the purpose of a clicker.
You can also use a teaspoon to cut steak but that
is not the purpose of teaspoon!
--Marshall
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff & Di"
To: "The Puppy Wizard"
Sent: Saturday, June 05, 2004 8:08 AM
Subject: Re: help, with the At Wits End training manual
HOWEDY Diana,
> Hi Jerry,
>
> Thanks very much for the prompt reply.
> I'm just writing to let you know that I've
> had some wonderful progress with Molly.
Of curse!
> I took her up to the school in the car when
> I was picking up my daughter. My husband
> went to get our daughter while I stayed in
> the car with Molly. It was a quick trip so I
> wasn't expecting any car sickness, but I
> thought it would be a great opportunity to
> work on her fear of people approaching the
> car.
>
> When we pulled up, there were already a lot
> of people and kids milling around, and as I
> haven't explained the AWETM to my husband
> of course he was yelling at Molly to shut up
> and sit down.
That'll increase anxiHOWESNESS.
> As you can imagine this didn't help.
>
> Once he was gone I simply told Molly she
> was good, she growled a few times at people
> and I said "thanks Molly I see them too, they're
> ok" then I asked her to find her ball which was
> in the back.
I wouldn't recommend offering a physical
distraction for two reasons. 1) she's likely
to become dependent on putting something
in her MHOWETH when she's stressed and
2) it may disavail you of successive training
opportunities necessary to extinguish the behavior.
> She loves her ball so was keen to do that and
> didn't notice what was by now a big crowd of
> parents and kids passing the car.
See, we really do want her to notice, so
we can briefly and variably distract and
praise to extinguish the behavior.
> I kept up with the "good girl" and "where's
> your ball" soon she was sitting watching
> the people walk past and offering them
> her ball to throw, not that they noticed her.
Well, it worked well for you this time. Don't
use the ball again the next time, just follow
the praise techniques.
> But it was lovely to see her so relaxed.
INDEEDY. That's the bottom line for successful
nearly instant training. That's why bribing and
withholding bribes fails, cause anxiety increases
as we withhold the reward to elicit the behavior.
> Just to add, I was sitting in the front and she
> was in the back of the wagon, so this was all
> verbal praise and distraction with no touching
> or patting.
Right. Physical contact distracts the dog from
thinking and processing the information.
> Jerry it is so hard not to yell at the dog when
> you are frustrated and want it to behave immediately,
Yeah. It only takes a few minutes to appupriately
extinguish any behavior, but you've got to know HOWE.
> but as you have said it really gets you
> nowhere in the long run.
"Reinforcement NEVER ends."
That's HOWE COME when we train dogs using
non physical methods the behavior is not dependent
on HOWER ability to reinforce manage supervise
bribe and avoid... IOW, we've HOWEtwitted the
cunning of the domestic puppy dog by tempting
the dog to do the undesirable behavior and distracting
and praising before the thought is fulfilled till
it's no longer thought of as a useful behavior.
> I would never of had these great results
> with Molly without your help, as we really
> were stuck in the "yelling at the dog" rut.
Just wait till you apply my methods to your kids.
My methods have rehabilitated severe hyperactive
kids as fast and permanent as the dogs I've heelped.
> I have to work on getting my husband to read
> your manual now, by the way an At Wits End
> Husband Training Manual would be helpful too,
> haha.
Not a chance in heel. If Mrs. Puppy Wizard discovered it I'd be
wearin an apron and workin
insetead of settin right here, stark ravin nekkid,
wearin nuthin but these gawd awful paper slippers.
> Thankyou so much for providing this info for free.
My pleasure. Consider it my vindictive nature...
> I was looking at dog training books in the shops
> today and they are so expensive !! (around $30
> to $40 in Australia) Not that I need them now, but
> I like to browse the dog and pet sections from
> time to time.
Makes The Amazing Puppy Wizard grind HIS teeth...
> You might like think about publishing a book
> one day, I think it would be received very well
> by the general public and reach those without
> internet access.
I probably should do sumpthin. The dog lovers
on the news groups ain't interested in training
their dogs, they seem to enjoy discussing behavior
problems and the training tools they used to cause
them.
> I was going to copy my last letter onto the news
> groups but see that you have already done so.
Yeah, but a lot of folks don't like to read my posts
cause HOWER dog lovers like to tell foks they're
forgeries.
> Feel free to quote this letter too if it helps.
Thank you, but I really wish you'll repost them
cause it'll be more believable coming from you.
These folks think it should take weeks and
months to rehabiliatate behavior problems.
They think they're successful if they've
rehabilitated an aggresson problem after a
year or longer working at it.
> It's unfortunate that the newsgroups are cluttered
> with rubbish, as It would be nice to discuss dogs
>from time to time with other dog lovers.
That ain't gonna happen cause decent folks
don't post there. Every WON is interested
in saving dogs lives by hurting them as a last
resort when forcing avoiding and bribing didn't work.
> cheers,
LikeWIZE.
> Dianna
Yours, Jerry.
HOWEDY Brandy,
"Brandy Kurtz" <KraftyKurtzs.RemoveThis@wmconnect.com> wrote in message
news:2f66e35d.0407302331.1f18b8c6@posting.google.com...
> KraftyKurtzs.RemoveThis@wmconnect.com (Brandy Kurtz) wrote in message
news:<2f66e35d.0407262049.7b3a7b51.RemoveThis@posting.google.com>...
>
> Well I just printed out the Amazing Puppy
> Wizard info, so I haven't actually started
> to train yet.
>
> Today a salesman knocked on the door,
> and Pokey was going balisstic. I calmly
> go to the window to see who it is, and
> off-handly say Good Boy, It's a stranger,
> Good Boy. Pokey shut right up, gave me
> a quizical look, and came and sat beside
> my feet!
>
> OMG, I could not believe it!
>
> I was totally floored, as this has been his
> behavior since a pup. Just wanted to update,
> and Pokey and I are hitting the sack...;)
Well THAT IS encouraging, AIN'T IT.
> Brandy
It's customary here abHOWETS to put
NINNYBOY [NINNYBOY] Jerry JERRY
[JERRY] The Puppy Wizard The Amazing
Puppy Wizard in the subject header to
AVOID EMBARRASSMENT.
The Puppy Wizard sez "A dog is a dog as a child
is a child. They only respond in PREDICTABLE
NORMAL NATURAL INNATE INSTINCTIVE
REFLEXIVE ways to situations and circumstances
of their environment which we create for them.
ALL BEHAVIOR PROBLEMS ARE CAUSED BY
MISHANDLING. Damn The Descartean War of
"Nature Vs Nurture." We Teach By HOWER Words
And Actions And GET BACK What We TAUGHT.
In The Problem Animal Behavior BUSINESS
FAILURE MEANS DEATH. SAME SAME SAME
SAME, For The Problem Child Behavior BUSINESS.
ANAL-yize THIS, professor SCRUFF SHAKE:
Here's professor of ANAL-ytic behaviorISM research
at UofWI marshall "SCRUFF SHAKE and SCREAM
"NO!" into ITS face for five seconds and lock IT in a
box for ten minutes contemplation" dermer:
"At this point, "No" does not have any behavioral
function. But, if you say "No,"pick up the puppy
by its neck and shake it a bit, and the frequency
of the biting decreases then you will have achieved
too things.
First, the frequency of unwanted chewing has
decreased; and two, you have established "No"
as a conditioned punisher.
How much neck pulling and shaking? Just the
minimum necessary to decrease the unwanted
biting.
******IS THAT A CONSISTENT 5 SECONDS?*******
When our dog was a puppy, "No" came before mild
forms of punishment (I would hold my dog's mouth
closed for a few seconds.) whereas "Bad Dog" came
before stronger punishement (the kind discussed above).
"No" is usually sufficient but sometimes I use
"Bad Dog" to stop a behavior. "Bad Dog" ALWAYS
works."
That's HOWE COME your dog has OCD behaviors
and is deathly ill from The Puppy Wizard's SYNDROME.
And The Amazing Puppy Wizard SEZ you
can't post here abHOWETS noMOORE
cause you're a liar and a dog abuser and
a coward and a MENTAL CASE.
Here's HOWE The Amazing Puppy Wizard teaches
HIS FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method
Manual Students to train their critters NEARLY
INSTANTLY.
Here's a former regular who hasn't posted since:
"If I Knew It Would Be That Easy, I Would Have Done This A Long
Time
Ago Saving Myself 5 Years
Of Dealing With A Bouncy, Over Excited Dog!" Jenn.
Hello Jenn,
"brijen" <brijen.RemoveThis@vennercnospams.com> wrote in message
news:397cfaa3_1@news.oanet.com...
> Hello Jerry,
> I just wanted to let you know that I am
> trying this right now.
Good.
> I am the woman who wrote to you a while
> ago about trying to walk my dog without the
> pinch collar.
I recall.
> She also goes APE when I grab the leash.
> We have been doing this technique you
> recommend for about a half an hour now
> and the results are already fantastic, as
> well as amusing!
Yeah, dog training should always be more
fun than work.
> At first, we went out and I stood there,
> and Anya kept trying to head out to the
> sidewalk. When I didn't follow, she came
> and sat beside me at heel! (Thanks to
> your help!) She'd NEVER done that before.
It's the same principle as in the Hot And
Cold Exercise.
> I rewarded that with a few steps of a walk,
> but we came in after about 30 seconds. She
> stopped and looked at me as if she were
> thinking, "What? But we just got out here!"
> The second and third times, she was even
> MORE eager when she saw the leash, and
> I got the same look when I turned around
> to go back in. The fourth time, she just
> bounced a bit as she walked to the door
> with me, and sat nicely to wait until I hooked
> up the leash, and this last time, I HAD
> TO CALL HER TO ME!!!!!!!!!!
Fine. That's because dogs learn on the basis of
four repetitions. That's not to say they can't learn
some things faster, but for breaking habits, it usually happens
the
fourth time we repeat a lesson.
Then we need to repeat the lesson at three more
locations our time in each to generalize the idea.
Let's say your dog gets excited when you take her
lead and go to the front door. She would probably
do the same at the back door, but to not such a degree.
Likewise for any other door.
It would behoove you to repeat the exercise with
several other doors and it would be easiest to
start with a door that had less excitement involved
with it.
> If I knew it would be that easy, I would have
> done this a long time ago saving myself 5
> years of dealing with a bouncy, over excited dog!
The non force methods work fast and easy
because we are not challenging the dog or
calling our attention to their behavior problems.
> I have to tell you how the walk is going though.
> I have a lot of problems there, but it is all ME.
> I have been so conditioned to "correct" her,
> that I still find myself yanking on her collar.
Yes, those habits are hard to break. It's easier for
me to train a person who has no experience at all
because they have no bad habits of pulling and
forcing control.
> I feel so awful! We have only been working
> in the yard without distractions, because I
> honestly don't know what will happen if she
> sees another dog and I won't have the pinch
> collar to keep her from dragging me over for
> a fight.
You know that working the dog in the back
yard is not preferable, because that causes
them some anxiety because it's their free area.
But with your dog and with the difficulty he is
to handle, I don't see any reason you shouldn't
do the Family Leadership Exercise and the come
command several times out there, and then you'll
have the control to do it in a more neutral area.
> The upside is, when I take the leash off it's
> hook and don't take the pinch collar, her
> excitement to go for a walk is NO LONGER
> combined with the intense fear I used to see
> in her eyes at the sight of the pinch!
Our group likes to think that is EXCITEMENT and
eagerness to work. It is sheer terror. The pinch
collar works by overriding the opposition reflex
through fear and that cause tremendous stress
and anxiety that must be released through anxiety
relief mechanisms like barking, digging, whining,
chewing, self mutilation and aggression.
> That does it for me. I can't believe I instilled
> fear in my beautiful dog just for the sake that
> I didn't know how to train. Well, I still don't
> know how, but I'm learning!
That's where I was three dozen years ago. I was
ready to just quit. I wasn't going to sour any more
dogs to make them work.
> Thanks for your help. Please send more
> suggestions if you saw something I could
> be doing differently!
>
> Jenn & Anya
I was thinking about your difficulties with
your dog. Just getting the Hot And Cold
Exercise and the Family Leadership Exercise
and the come command installed will solve
most of your difficulty with him.
I presume you've got msn messenger. We
can speak over that if you are set up for it,
and I can demonstrate the timing and tone
and tempo for using sound distractions
and praise, or we could speak on the phone.
The most important thing to remember is to
pick up and handle the lead in a relaxed manner,
no white knuckles, keep your elbow relaxed and
your arm down at your side with the length of the
lead breaking just below the knee.
Let me know if you need further help.
Jerry.
The Puppy Wizard sez "A dog is a dog as a child
is a child. They only respond in PREDICTABLE
NORMAL NATURAL INNATE INSTINCTIVE
REFLEXIVE ways to situations and circumstances
of their environment which we create for them.
ALL BEHAVIOR PROBLEMS ARE CAUSED BY
MISHANDLING. Damn The Descartean War of
"Nature Vs Nurture." We Teach By HOWER Words
And Actions And GET BACK What We TAUGHT.
In The Problem Animal Behavior BUSINESS
FAILURE MEANS DEATH. SAME SAME SAME
SAME, For The Problem Child Behavior BUSINESS.
"If You Talk With The Animals,
They Will Talk With You
And You Will Know Each Other.
If You Do Not Talk To Them,
You Will Not Know Them,
And What You Do Not Know
You Will Fear.
What One Fears, One Destroys,"
Chief Dan George,
adapted with permission from his FREE
copy of The Puppy Wizard's FREE Wits'
End Dog Training Method Manual.
"(Also, it is best to killfile posts from
the few regulars here who are either ill-
tempered, ill-mannered, or just plain ill.),"
--Marshall
The Puppy Wizard's SYNDROME is the perfect
synergy of love, pride, desire, self will, greed,
ego, fear, hate, arrogance, disbelief, jealousy,
embarrassment, embellishment, shame, guilt,
anger, aversion, attraction, revulsion, change,
permanence, enlightenment, insult, attrition,
and conditioning.
It's the perfect fusion of The Word...,
in the physical.
It's time for the dog training industry and
the universities who TEACH "behaiviorists"
to DEFEND THEIR METHODS against 100%
NEAR INSTANT TOTAL SUCCESS as PROVEN
by the cHOWENTLESS NEARLY INSTANTLY
SUCCESSFUL FREE WWW Wits' End Dog
Training Method Manual Student's REPORTS,
after they've TRIED ALL OTHER METHODS
and FAILED.
"The greatness of a nation and its moral
progress can be judged by the way its
animals are treated." ~ Mohandas Gandhi --
Adapted with permission from his FREE
copy of The Puppy Wizard's FREE Wits'
End Dog Training Method Manual. <}TPW ; ~ ) >
Force training JERRYIZES dogs
and GETS THEM DEAD.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Marshall Dermer"
> <dermer.RemoveThis@csd.uwm.edu>
> To: "The Puppy Wizard"
> <ThePuppyWizard.RemoveThis@earthlink.net>
> Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 2:53 PM
>
> Subject: God Bless The Puppy Wizard
>
> Dear Mr. Puppy Wizard,
>
> I have, of late, come to recognize your
> genius and now must applaud your attempts
> to save animals from painful training
> procedures.
>
> You are indeed a hero, a man of exceptional
> talent, who tirelessly devotes his days to
> crafting posts to alert the world to animal
> abuse.
>
> We are lucky to have you, and more people
> should come to their senses and support
> your valuable work.
>
> Have you thought of establishing a nonprofit
> charity to fund your important work?
>
> Have you thought about holding a press
> conference so others can learn of your
> highly worthwhile and significant work?
>
> In closing, my only suggestion is that you
> try to keep your messages short for most
> readers may refuse to read a long message
> even if it is from the wise, heroic Puppy
> Wizard.
>
> I wish you well in your endeavors.
>
> --Marshall Dermer
> Marshall Dermer/Associate Professor/
> Behavior Analysis Specialty/Department
> of Psychology/University of Wisconsin-
> Milwaukee/Milwaukee,WI 53201
> dermer.RemoveThis@uwm.edu
> http://www.uwm.edu/~dermer
> --------------------------------------
All truth passes through three stages.
First, it is ridiculed.
Second, it is violently opposed.
Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
-Arthur Schopenhauer
"Thank you for fighting the fine fight--
even tho it's a hopeless task,
in this system of things.
As long as man is ruling man,
there will be animals (and humans!)
abused and neglected. :-(
Your student," Juanita.
"If you've got them by the balls their hearts
and minds will follow,"
John Wayne.
The Amazing Puppy Wizard. <{}TPW ; ~ } >
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