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On Jan 14, 9:15 am, "Suja" <spana....RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote:
> "Mark Shaw" <ms....RemoveThis@bangnetcom.com> wrote in message:
> > I ate ramen and drank Buckhorn for four freakin' years.
>
> That appears to be standard operating procedure for a lot of people short on
> cash. Someone I worked with used to go to talks and lectures organized on
> campus because they would often serve at least coffee/tea and cookies, and
> if he was lucky, fruits and finger food. I was lucky enough to live with my
> parents and have access to at least one meal a day, but the rest of my
> schooling, I paid for myself, between working 70 hour weeks and
> scholarships.
>
> Suja

There was a guy at my college who theorized you could go the entire
term without paying for lunch during the week by being active in the
various campus groups and know when each group was hosting a special
event with food. I didn't check with him at the end of the term, but
he had remained successful for the first half of the term. Success
would of course depend on the individual campus though.

Nick
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"Mark Shaw" <mshaw.DeleteThis@bangnetcom.com> wrote in message:

> I ate ramen and drank Buckhorn for four freakin' years.

That appears to be standard operating procedure for a lot of people short on
cash. Someone I worked with used to go to talks and lectures organized on
campus because they would often serve at least coffee/tea and cookies, and
if he was lucky, fruits and finger food. I was lucky enough to live with my
parents and have access to at least one meal a day, but the rest of my
schooling, I paid for myself, between working 70 hour weeks and
scholarships.

Suja
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In article <5v18pfF1jl3iaU1.TakeThisOut@mid.individual.net>,
Suja <spanaval.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote:
>I was lucky enough to live with my
>parents and have access to at least one meal a day, but the rest of my
>schooling, I paid for myself, between working 70 hour weeks and
>scholarships.

This is another on a long list of things I'm ambivalent
about. On the one hand, I think education is incredibly
important, not just for the individual but for things like
national economic growth and technology/science/whatever
leadership. It would be great if people with less money
weren't disadvantaged in their pursuit of an education. On
the other hand there's really nothing wrong with developing
a good work ethic and doing it sooner rather than later.

This schmuck seems to be arguing that he deserves special
treatment because he's a student. Yes and no - I think he
probably does at some level, but it seems to me that that
"special treatment" shouldn't extend to something with such
obvious negative externalities as advertising in a Usenet
discussion group. It's like ATVs and snowmobiles - there's
no such thing as just one.
--
Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis - shore.TakeThisOut@panix.com

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"Melinda Shore" <shore RemoveThis @panix.com> wrote in message:

> It would be great if people with less money
> weren't disadvantaged in their pursuit of an education. On
> the other hand there's really nothing wrong with developing
> a good work ethic and doing it sooner rather than later.

I have known people whose extreme circumstances interfered with their
ability to learn, which is such a shame. It's apparently hard to study when
you haven't eaten in two days. Although most of us at work were in similar
straits, some of us were better off than others (and knew it), so we all
helped out when we could. Our boss, a supremely nice and generous lady
instituted a "lottery" wherein the winner would get to go to lunch with her
to the faculty lounge. The winners were usually the people that needed the
food the most at that particular time. Although my budget for the week was
$20 (including subway money), I'd save up what I could, buy something in a
huge portion from the local stores, and ask that one or two others share it
with me because it's just much, much more than I could eat. I'm fairly
certain some of these people would've politely refused if I had outright
offered it to them, but if I couched it in terms of 'Help me out there,
there is no way I can eat all this, and it would be wasteful to throw it
out', they'd happily oblige. There were at least two or three other people
there that would do something similar, bring something from home to share,
etc. For a bunch of college students, it was a really good-hearted,
hard-working group of people.

Suja
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Suja wrote:
> "Melinda Shore" <shore DeleteThis @panix.com> wrote in message:
>
>
>>It would be great if people with less money
>>weren't disadvantaged in their pursuit of an education. On
>>the other hand there's really nothing wrong with developing
>>a good work ethic and doing it sooner rather than later.
>
>
> I have known people whose extreme circumstances interfered with their
> ability to learn, which is such a shame. It's apparently hard to study when
> you haven't eaten in two days. Although most of us at work were in similar
> straits, some of us were better off than others (and knew it), so we all
> helped out when we could. Our boss, a supremely nice and generous lady
> instituted a "lottery" wherein the winner would get to go to lunch with her
> to the faculty lounge. The winners were usually the people that needed the
> food the most at that particular time. Although my budget for the week was
> $20 (including subway money), I'd save up what I could, buy something in a
> huge portion from the local stores, and ask that one or two others share it
> with me because it's just much, much more than I could eat. I'm fairly
> certain some of these people would've politely refused if I had outright
> offered it to them, but if I couched it in terms of 'Help me out there,
> there is no way I can eat all this, and it would be wasteful to throw it
> out', they'd happily oblige. There were at least two or three other people
> there that would do something similar, bring something from home to share,
> etc. For a bunch of college students, it was a really good-hearted,
> hard-working group of people.


There are hungry kids at my son's middle school and my daughter's high
school. There's always somebody at the table making due with a "poor
kid's lunch" - a can of soda and a bag of chips; the cheapest possible
combo. Both of my kids are kindhearted souls so when a few years back I
noticed my daughter (the older of the two) coming home from school
really hungry I started asking questions and found out that she was
sharing the lunches I sent from home.

So I overpack their lunch coolers. A protein source (a quesadilla,
leftover chicken or steak from the night before's dinner, maybe a PB&J
waffle sandwich), a bottle of chocolate milk, a piece of fruit, a carton
of yogurt and something sweet (granola bar or cookies). The offer to
share is usually phrased as something like, "Omigod, my mother's trying
to make me fat. Will you help me with this?" or, "Blah, I'm so sick of
X. Do you want it?" They both know that I don't care if they eat it
all, give part away or bring the leftovers home, I just don't want them
throwing food away.
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Suja <spanaval DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote:
> "Melinda Shore" <shore DeleteThis @panix.com> wrote in message:

> > It would be great if people with less money
> > weren't disadvantaged in their pursuit of an education. On
> > the other hand there's really nothing wrong with developing
> > a good work ethic and doing it sooner rather than later.

> I have known people whose extreme circumstances interfered with their
> ability to learn, which is such a shame. It's apparently hard to study when
> you haven't eaten in two days.

Well, hell - at certain schools, you could do quite well just
keeping your eyes open and snagging what the children of privilege
had left on their lunch trays.

Unfortunately for my undergraduate self, I didn't get to SMU until
I was well into the meat of my career, and could afford to eat
wherever and whenever I wanted....

--
Mark Shaw (And Baron) moc TOD liamg TA wahsnm
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