Melinda Shore wrote:
> In article ,
> Nick wrote:
>>I
>>do ride ATVs with family and that is all on private land because public
>>trails do not exhist where I live.
>
> That's different. Throughout almost all of NY and in many,
> many states there are a lot of trails that are legal for
> snowmobiles and not ATVs.
>
> Tell you what - get out in the woods on some skis or
> snowshoes and I guarantee you will see marked snowmobile
> trails.
I have traveled the woods by foot in my area. I've been in every public
section in my immediate area, probably about a 15 mile radius. I've
never once seen a trail marked as legal for snowmobiles. Every one has
been marked just the opposite. I've seen the county maps dictating land
ownership, and in my area it is almost entirely privately owned. I've
seen the parks and rec maps which go over public land and include marked
trails. None of them are for snowmobiles. I can tell you which
facilities are available at each section of public land, many of which
most people who live near me are surprised to find out are there. For
instance, three miles down my road it becomes four-wheel vehicle only
and there are training fields for hunting dogs, public hunting grounds
and public ponds for fishing. No snowmobile trails. My area is almost
entirely farmland with forest spread sporadically between.
I do know of trails in the state, they just are not in my area. And for
the record I have been out in the woods on skis, at one point I owned a
set of cross country skis.
>
>>Up north, some of the privately
>>owned land has trails that attaches to public trail systems. Just
>>because I don't snowmobile, don't think I'm not aware of my area's
>>facilities.
>
> Nick, I think you're not aware of your area's facilities
> because you're just not interested in outdoors activities
> and you don't get outdoors in the winter.
I come from an outdoor oriented family. I grew up in the area, I know
what is available to do outdoors and what is not. I have hiked the
trails that we have, they are posted as no snowmobiles, ATVs, or
motorized bikes. Just because I don't choose to
ski/snowshoe/snowmobile/dogsled it doesn't mean I don't know what is
available.
> I don't
> snowmobile, either, but you can bet your sedentary ass I
> know where the trails are, what's legal and what's not. I
> also have a problem with trespassers riding on my land
> illegally, but that doesn't mean that there aren't legal
> trails and really responsible riders.
I'm willing to bet that the makeup of the land in my area is
dramatically different than your area. My area is ideal farmland, and
since for a long time Michigan only had automobiles and farming, the
land is almost entirely fields and farms, almost entirely in private
hands and farmed by corporate farming operations. There are very small
sections of public land, I know where they are and I know what is on
each one of them. I've been to each one of them, and I've seen the maps
of each one of them which have marked trails on them.
Just because I limit my sedentary-during-the-winter ass to playing in
the back field with my dog doesn't mean I'm sedentary during the other
three seasons. Also, up until last year when my parent's ordered 100
face cord of 8 foot logs, I helped my father cut trees all winter long
in various farmers' plots of land maintaining their fence rows for
them. Cut and split around 40 face cord every year during the winter
months.
Nick
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