Dog dilemma update...

"Beth In Alaska" <bethinak.TakeThisOut@spamfreeclearwire.net> spoke these words of
wisdom in news:13f8mkvgmfvhe7c@corp.supernews.com:

> So Oliver is a DARLING with a lovely temperment who'd get along
> beautifully with Tok and Ben.
>
> But she wants $600 for him, She already got $700 from the original
> buyers.
>
> I expected an adoption fee, but not the same price I paid for my two
> lovely show quality puppies?
>
> Am I right to be flabbergasted? Maybe other breeders do this and I don't
> know? It offended me as a dog person - shouldn't she be worrying about
> finding the right home for the dog instead of getting more money for
> him?
>
> Please advise!!!
>
>
>

Did she buy him back? a lot of responsible breeders "DO"
If this is the case, he's not damaged goods and has retained his value.
minus crate time when you could have been training him, or the clueless
owners DIDN'T train him or potentially create problems

IF she did NOT purchase him back.. I would be highly offended.
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"diddy" <none> wrote in message
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> "Beth In Alaska" <bethinak.TakeThisOut@spamfreeclearwire.net> spoke these words of
> wisdom in news:13f8mkvgmfvhe7c@corp.supernews.com:
>
>> So Oliver is a DARLING with a lovely temperment who'd get along
>> beautifully with Tok and Ben.
>>
>> But she wants $600 for him, She already got $700 from the original
>> buyers.
>>
>> I expected an adoption fee, but not the same price I paid for my two
>> lovely show quality puppies?
>>
>> Am I right to be flabbergasted? Maybe other breeders do this and I don't
>> know? It offended me as a dog person - shouldn't she be worrying about
>> finding the right home for the dog instead of getting more money for
>> him?
>>
>> Please advise!!!
>>
>>
>>
>
> Did she buy him back? a lot of responsible breeders "DO"
> If this is the case, he's not damaged goods and has retained his value.
> minus crate time when you could have been training him, or the clueless
> owners DIDN'T train him or potentially create problems
>
> IF she did NOT purchase him back.. I would be highly offended.


She told me that they paid $700 for him. She did NOT say she bought him
BACK. Maybe she did.

he IS damaged goods. He's a little weird and a little needy with the other
dogs - there has been NO training done. He doesn't know how to come, sit or
anything. He's limping which she says is a result of being out of shape from
being in the kennel. He's fat.
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"Beth In Alaska" <bethinak RemoveThis @spamfreeclearwire.net> spoke these words of
wisdom in news:13f8n3c2kd4tp7c@corp.supernews.com:

>
>> IF she did NOT purchase him back.. I would be highly offended.
>
>
> She told me that they paid $700 for him. She did NOT say she bought him
> BACK. Maybe she did.
>
> he IS damaged goods. He's a little weird and a little needy with the
> other dogs - there has been NO training done. He doesn't know how to
> come, sit or anything. He's limping which she says is a result of being
> out of shape from being in the kennel. He's fat.
>
>
>
>
>

She's going to have to come down a LOT.

You are a choice home, and she should take that into consideration over
her greed, or decide she's keeping him and no longer make him available.
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"diddy" <none> wrote in message
news:Xns99B2CE1A25519diddydiddynet@216.196.97.142...
> "Beth In Alaska" <bethinak.TakeThisOut@spamfreeclearwire.net> spoke these words of
> wisdom in news:13f8n3c2kd4tp7c@corp.supernews.com:
>
>>
>>> IF she did NOT purchase him back.. I would be highly offended.
>>
>>
>> She told me that they paid $700 for him. She did NOT say she bought him
>> BACK. Maybe she did.
>>
>> he IS damaged goods. He's a little weird and a little needy with the
>> other dogs - there has been NO training done. He doesn't know how to
>> come, sit or anything. He's limping which she says is a result of being
>> out of shape from being in the kennel. He's fat.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> She's going to have to come down a LOT.
>
> You are a choice home, and she should take that into consideration over
> her greed, or decide she's keeping him and no longer make him available.


So now I have to tell her this. Without offending her.
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"Beth In Alaska" <bethinak.RemoveThis@spamfreeclearwire.net> spoke these words of wisdom
in news:13f8o458ulbmqb8@corp.supernews.com:
>> She's going to have to come down a LOT.
>>
>> You are a choice home, and she should take that into consideration over
>> her greed, or decide she's keeping him and no longer make him available.
>
>
> So now I have to tell her this. Without offending her.
>
>
>

Honey, Diplomacy has NEVER been my forte. Better YOU tell her than me.....
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"diddy" <none> wrote in message
news:Xns99B2D01D9E006diddydiddynet@216.196.97.142...
> "Beth In Alaska" <bethinak.DeleteThis@spamfreeclearwire.net> spoke these words of
> wisdom
> in news:13f8o458ulbmqb8@corp.supernews.com:
>>> She's going to have to come down a LOT.
>>>
>>> You are a choice home, and she should take that into consideration over
>>> her greed, or decide she's keeping him and no longer make him available.
>>
>>
>> So now I have to tell her this. Without offending her.
>>
>>
>>
>
> Honey, Diplomacy has NEVER been my forte. Better YOU tell her than
> me.....


I decided to be as politically correct as possible because really, what I
want is for her to give me the dog for less money.

My email to her below:

We've spent alot of time dicussing Oliver. We loved his temperment and felt
he would be an excellent addition to our family. Ben cried "Take Oliver
home with me" the entire drive home.

However, we are not in a position to spend $600 right now. Not until after
our trip. I had assumed that since you had already received a puppy fee for
him, that you would be asking a smaller adoption fee.

Please give him a hug from us. He's a lovely fellow.
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"Beth In Alaska" <bethinak RemoveThis @spamfreeclearwire.net> wrote in message
news:13f8mkvgmfvhe7c@corp.supernews.com...
> So Oliver is a DARLING with a lovely temperment who'd get along
beautifully
> with Tok and Ben.
>
> But she wants $600 for him, She already got $700 from the original
buyers.
>
> I expected an adoption fee, but not the same price I paid for my two
lovely
> show quality puppies?
>
> Am I right to be flabbergasted? Maybe other breeders do this and I don't
> know? It offended me as a dog person - shouldn't she be worrying about
> finding the right home for the dog instead of getting more money for him?
>
> Please advise!!!


I agree with you Beth. I would have been totally flabbergasted myself. I
thought it was the intention to find a good home for this poor, returned
dog. Not to make a double fee off of it. That's terrible IMO.


td
>
>
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"Beth In Alaska" <bethinak.TakeThisOut@spamfreeclearwire.net> wrote in message:

> But she wants $600 for him, She already got $700 from the original
buyers.

Does not sound right to me. Has she had to put more money into him, which
would justify the bill? I'm thinking vet check, neuter, training, etc.

> It offended me as a dog person - shouldn't she be worrying about
> finding the right home for the dog instead of getting more money for him?
>
> Please advise!!!

Jeez, this is tough. Is she someone that you would've bought a puppy from?
Unless she has a rational explanation for her charge, I'm not sure I'd take
him. Such a shame, really. He sounds like he could use a good, stable
home.

Suja
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"Suja" <spanaval.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Beth In Alaska" <bethinak.RemoveThis@spamfreeclearwire.net> wrote in message:
>
>> But she wants $600 for him, She already got $700 from the original
> buyers.
>
> Does not sound right to me. Has she had to put more money into him, which
> would justify the bill? I'm thinking vet check, neuter, training, etc.

she just got him back this week and doesn't know if he got his third set of
puppy shots.

>> It offended me as a dog person - shouldn't she be worrying about
>> finding the right home for the dog instead of getting more money for him?
>>
>> Please advise!!!
>
> Jeez, this is tough. Is she someone that you would've bought a puppy
> from?
> Unless she has a rational explanation for her charge, I'm not sure I'd
> take
> him. Such a shame, really. He sounds like he could use a good, stable
> home.

No. I'd not buy a puppy from her probably. I'm VERY fussy though.
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BethinAk,
You mentioned that the corgi pup that you have taken an interest in is
now for sale by the breeder for 700.00. Your OP indicated to me that
you were rescuing him so to speak, as he had not gotten off to a very
good start in life, which was not his fault.
I think the b. I mean breeder has your number. I gather that she
knows how fond you are of him. I totally agree when you said he IS
damaged goods. I am quite sure the damage can be undone, but it is not
as if you are getting a fresh start with a brand new pup.
I can't say I would walk away from Oliver, but I guarantee you I would
let the breeder think I was going to. What the Hell is wrong with
people? I think she ought to be glad you are willing to take him. I
don't care how much money she is out. That is the name of the game....
How about this? Tell the breeder go ahead and sell him for 700.00. I
really can't afford that,I thought I was helping you out to take him etc
etc. Oh yeah and if she does sell him, please forget this was my
suggestion:)


Be Free.....Judy
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"Judith Althouse" <judyalthouse RemoveThis @webtv.net> wrote in message
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> BethinAk,
> You mentioned that the corgi pup that you have taken an interest in is
> now for sale by the breeder for 700.00. Your OP indicated to me that
> you were rescuing him so to speak, as he had not gotten off to a very
> good start in life, which was not his fault.
> I think the b. I mean breeder has your number. I gather that she
> knows how fond you are of him. I totally agree when you said he IS
> damaged goods. I am quite sure the damage can be undone, but it is not
> as if you are getting a fresh start with a brand new pup.
> I can't say I would walk away from Oliver, but I guarantee you I would
> let the breeder think I was going to. What the Hell is wrong with
> people? I think she ought to be glad you are willing to take him. I
> don't care how much money she is out. That is the name of the game....
> How about this? Tell the breeder go ahead and sell him for 700.00. I
> really can't afford that,I thought I was helping you out to take him etc
> etc. Oh yeah and if she does sell him, please forget this was my
> suggestion:


I think you are dead on.
I'm hoping my email makes her offer him for much less money, but if it
doesn't at least I know what breed I might like to have. ALL of her dogs
were all over my son. I felt very confident about them with him- he threw
his arms around their little necks and lay his head on them and they LIKED
it. Can't even say that about my dogs.
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"Beth In Alaska" <bethinak DeleteThis @spamfreeclearwire.net> wrote in message
news:13f8mkvgmfvhe7c@corp.supernews.com...
> So Oliver is a DARLING with a lovely temperment who'd get along
> beautifully with Tok and Ben.
>
> But she wants $600 for him, She already got $700 from the original
> buyers.
>
> I expected an adoption fee, but not the same price I paid for my two
> lovely show quality puppies?
>
> Am I right to be flabbergasted? Maybe other breeders do this and I don't
> know? It offended me as a dog person - shouldn't she be worrying about
> finding the right home for the dog instead of getting more money for him?
>
> Please advise!!!
>

Did she give the original owners back their money? That may be why she is
asking for some bux. Also, did she do the neuter or any other medical type
stuff?
I just asked my best buddy who has been in corgis for ages. She said she
would want to have known the breeder for a loong time. She also says that
she knows how much money good breeders put into their dogs, so it doesn't
surprise her that the breeder would ask for the money.
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"bethgsd" <bethgsd.RemoveThis@nospam.verizon.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Beth In Alaska" <bethinak.RemoveThis@spamfreeclearwire.net> wrote in message
> news:13f8mkvgmfvhe7c@corp.supernews.com...
>> So Oliver is a DARLING with a lovely temperment who'd get along
>> beautifully with Tok and Ben.
>>
>> But she wants $600 for him, She already got $700 from the original
>> buyers.
>>
>> I expected an adoption fee, but not the same price I paid for my two
>> lovely show quality puppies?
>>
>> Am I right to be flabbergasted? Maybe other breeders do this and I don't
>> know? It offended me as a dog person - shouldn't she be worrying about
>> finding the right home for the dog instead of getting more money for him?
>>
>> Please advise!!!
>>
>
> Did she give the original owners back their money? That may be why she is
> asking for some bux. Also, did she do the neuter or any other medical
> type stuff?

no.

> I just asked my best buddy who has been in corgis for ages. She said she
> would want to have known the breeder for a loong time. She also says that
> she knows how much money good breeders put into their dogs, so it doesn't
> surprise her that the breeder would ask for the money.

Well, ok. I guess I'm not willing to spend it on this dog.
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