Dog Run

The mud part is baaaaaad so thats why I am wondering about gravel,
concrete?????
Hubby and brother going to construct so they are open to whatever!!!

""alpha.shanna©"" <alpha.shanna©@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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> Angie wrote:
>> Hi everyone
>>
>> Need some tips.
>>
>> Over the past few months we have kenneled Duke often and where he stays
>> has an outdoor run that he loves!! They say they have to practically drag
>> him in every night LOL.
>>
>> He is an indoor dog, but enjoys being out and our fence is only 4 ft high
>> and I feel like I have to watch him all the time. He loves to just go out
>> and run around and roll around and sniff and investigate and just lay
>> around, but gets into mischief and barks at the fence and like I said the
>> fence is only 4 ft high !!!
>>
>> We would like to construct a long wide kennel run type area with a 6 ft
>> fence. I have chose an area that gets shade and sun for him and it will
>> mostly be used just for few hours here and there, so it is not something
>> that he would be kept in while away, at night or winter months. Soooo my
>> questions are as follows:
>>
>> Buy the pre made kennel fence?
>> Conrete floor? He likes mud and digging, weed and eat grass dirt etc lol.
>> Do I need housing since it is just for him to enjoy being out and
>> checking things out (he is a very busy boy)
>> The area is very flat and runs along the back of the yard.
>> How big should it really be - we have plenty of room and size really is
>> not an issue.
>> If there is anything else I may be missing let me know
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>> Angie
>>
>>
> A couple of thoughts for you. The Home Depot type places have prefab
> kennels, different sizes & styles. They would be easy to relocate if/when
> he digs up the current location. lol
>
> And if you leave him in the dirt/mud, he will need a bath when you bring
> him in.
>
> --
> Shanna & Trouble
>
> Email: Remove the
 >> Stay informed about: Dog Run 

Ok read something about staying away from concrete which i wanted to do
anyhow - found a nice kennel set up at tractor supply - comes 10 x 10 x 6
and extra panels available. so got that much figured out - but it is the
what to do with floor yet. Dont really want to leave grass - it wont last
long and would become a muddy hole............
"Angie" <angiem RemoveThis @insight.rr.com> wrote in message
news:xrYMg.1152$MD6.8@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com...
> The mud part is baaaaaad so thats why I am wondering about gravel,
> concrete?????
> Hubby and brother going to construct so they are open to whatever!!!
>
> ""alpha.shanna©"" <alpha.shanna©@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:flYMg.51$IA.3@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com...
>> Angie wrote:
>>> Hi everyone
>>>
>>> Need some tips.
>>>
>>> Over the past few months we have kenneled Duke often and where he stays
>>> has an outdoor run that he loves!! They say they have to practically
>>> drag him in every night LOL.
>>>
>>> He is an indoor dog, but enjoys being out and our fence is only 4 ft
>>> high and I feel like I have to watch him all the time. He loves to just
>>> go out and run around and roll around and sniff and investigate and just
>>> lay around, but gets into mischief and barks at the fence and like I
>>> said the fence is only 4 ft high !!!
>>>
>>> We would like to construct a long wide kennel run type area with a 6 ft
>>> fence. I have chose an area that gets shade and sun for him and it will
>>> mostly be used just for few hours here and there, so it is not something
>>> that he would be kept in while away, at night or winter months. Soooo
>>> my questions are as follows:
>>>
>>> Buy the pre made kennel fence?
>>> Conrete floor? He likes mud and digging, weed and eat grass dirt etc
>>> lol.
>>> Do I need housing since it is just for him to enjoy being out and
>>> checking things out (he is a very busy boy)
>>> The area is very flat and runs along the back of the yard.
>>> How big should it really be - we have plenty of room and size really is
>>> not an issue.
>>> If there is anything else I may be missing let me know
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Angie
>>>
>>>
>> A couple of thoughts for you. The Home Depot type places have prefab
>> kennels, different sizes & styles. They would be easy to relocate
>> if/when he digs up the current location. lol
>>
>> And if you leave him in the dirt/mud, he will need a bath when you bring
>> him in.
>>
>> --
>> Shanna & Trouble
>>
>> Email: Remove the
>
>
 >> Stay informed about: Dog Run 

What did you read about concrete?

"Angie" <angiem DeleteThis @insight.rr.com> wrote in message
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> Ok read something about staying away from concrete which i wanted to do
> anyhow - found a nice kennel set up at tractor supply - comes 10 x 10 x 6
> and extra panels available. so got that much figured out - but it is the
> what to do with floor yet. Dont really want to leave grass - it wont last
> long and would become a muddy hole............
> "Angie" <angiem DeleteThis @insight.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:xrYMg.1152$MD6.8@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com...
>> The mud part is baaaaaad so thats why I am wondering about gravel,
>> concrete?????
>> Hubby and brother going to construct so they are open to whatever!!!
>>
>> ""alpha.shanna©"" <alpha.shanna©@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>> news:flYMg.51$IA.3@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com...
>>> Angie wrote:
>>>> Hi everyone
>>>>
>>>> Need some tips.
>>>>
>>>> Over the past few months we have kenneled Duke often and where he stays
>>>> has an outdoor run that he loves!! They say they have to practically
>>>> drag him in every night LOL.
>>>>
>>>> He is an indoor dog, but enjoys being out and our fence is only 4 ft
>>>> high and I feel like I have to watch him all the time. He loves to just
>>>> go out and run around and roll around and sniff and investigate and
>>>> just lay around, but gets into mischief and barks at the fence and like
>>>> I said the fence is only 4 ft high !!!
>>>>
>>>> We would like to construct a long wide kennel run type area with a 6 ft
>>>> fence. I have chose an area that gets shade and sun for him and it
>>>> will mostly be used just for few hours here and there, so it is not
>>>> something that he would be kept in while away, at night or winter
>>>> months. Soooo my questions are as follows:
>>>>
>>>> Buy the pre made kennel fence?
>>>> Conrete floor? He likes mud and digging, weed and eat grass dirt etc
>>>> lol.
>>>> Do I need housing since it is just for him to enjoy being out and
>>>> checking things out (he is a very busy boy)
>>>> The area is very flat and runs along the back of the yard.
>>>> How big should it really be - we have plenty of room and size really is
>>>> not an issue.
>>>> If there is anything else I may be missing let me know
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Angie
>>>>
>>>>
>>> A couple of thoughts for you. The Home Depot type places have prefab
>>> kennels, different sizes & styles. They would be easy to relocate
>>> if/when he digs up the current location. lol
>>>
>>> And if you leave him in the dirt/mud, he will need a bath when you bring
>>> him in.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Shanna & Trouble
>>>
>>> Email: Remove the
>>
>>
>
>
 >> Stay informed about: Dog Run 

Let me try and find it again Russ - was rather interesting - may take a day
or so........eyesight a little iffy right now with what is going
on..........dont think I updated you........

Angie

"Russ" <dontmailmeillmailyou.DeleteThis@abc.com> wrote in message
news:Oe4Ng.2439$cz3.633@edtnps82...
> What did you read about concrete?
>
> "Angie" <angiem.DeleteThis@insight.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:Kx2Ng.1023$131.644@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com...
>> Ok read something about staying away from concrete which i wanted to do
>> anyhow - found a nice kennel set up at tractor supply - comes 10 x 10 x 6
>> and extra panels available. so got that much figured out - but it is the
>> what to do with floor yet. Dont really want to leave grass - it wont
>> last long and would become a muddy hole............
>> "Angie" <angiem.DeleteThis@insight.rr.com> wrote in message
>> news:xrYMg.1152$MD6.8@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com...
>>> The mud part is baaaaaad so thats why I am wondering about gravel,
>>> concrete?????
>>> Hubby and brother going to construct so they are open to whatever!!!
>>>
>>> ""alpha.shanna©"" <alpha.shanna©@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>>> news:flYMg.51$IA.3@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com...
>>>> Angie wrote:
>>>>> Hi everyone
>>>>>
>>>>> Need some tips.
>>>>>
>>>>> Over the past few months we have kenneled Duke often and where he
>>>>> stays has an outdoor run that he loves!! They say they have to
>>>>> practically drag him in every night LOL.
>>>>>
>>>>> He is an indoor dog, but enjoys being out and our fence is only 4 ft
>>>>> high and I feel like I have to watch him all the time. He loves to
>>>>> just go out and run around and roll around and sniff and investigate
>>>>> and just lay around, but gets into mischief and barks at the fence and
>>>>> like I said the fence is only 4 ft high !!!
>>>>>
>>>>> We would like to construct a long wide kennel run type area with a 6
>>>>> ft fence. I have chose an area that gets shade and sun for him and it
>>>>> will mostly be used just for few hours here and there, so it is not
>>>>> something that he would be kept in while away, at night or winter
>>>>> months. Soooo my questions are as follows:
>>>>>
>>>>> Buy the pre made kennel fence?
>>>>> Conrete floor? He likes mud and digging, weed and eat grass dirt etc
>>>>> lol.
>>>>> Do I need housing since it is just for him to enjoy being out and
>>>>> checking things out (he is a very busy boy)
>>>>> The area is very flat and runs along the back of the yard.
>>>>> How big should it really be - we have plenty of room and size really
>>>>> is not an issue.
>>>>> If there is anything else I may be missing let me know
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> Angie
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> A couple of thoughts for you. The Home Depot type places have prefab
>>>> kennels, different sizes & styles. They would be easy to relocate
>>>> if/when he digs up the current location. lol
>>>>
>>>> And if you leave him in the dirt/mud, he will need a bath when you
>>>> bring him in.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Shanna & Trouble
>>>>
>>>> Email: Remove the
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
 >> Stay informed about: Dog Run 

A concrete kennel pad acts similar to a sponge. As liquids are introduced
onto its surface, they soak deep into its pores. These damp pores in the
concrete provide the perfect breeding ground for bacteria, mold, mildew and
unpleasant odors.

Concrete may also be used for multi-tiered kennels. It is good, strong
material that is also easy to clean. The only disadvantage is that insects
and other parasites may live in the cracks that will form in time.

Guess that was easy enough. There was more elsewhere but that was a
beginning for you.

Still looking for alternatives - I am seeing smooth pea gravel mentioned
often - remember this is just a place for him to hang out for couple hours
during good weather. And not using concrete means if we want to move it
elsewhere, we would be able to. Hubby has decided to make it about 10 X 30
X 6. Who knows what he will do LOL

Angie







, "Angie" <angiem RemoveThis @insight.rr.com> wrote in message
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> Let me try and find it again Russ - was rather interesting - may take a
> day or so........eyesight a little iffy right now with what is going
> on..........dont think I updated you........
>
> Angie
>
> "Russ" <dontmailmeillmailyou RemoveThis @abc.com> wrote in message
> news:Oe4Ng.2439$cz3.633@edtnps82...
>> What did you read about concrete?
>>
>> "Angie" <angiem RemoveThis @insight.rr.com> wrote in message
>> news:Kx2Ng.1023$131.644@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com...
>>> Ok read something about staying away from concrete which i wanted to do
>>> anyhow - found a nice kennel set up at tractor supply - comes 10 x 10 x
>>> 6 and extra panels available. so got that much figured out - but it is
>>> the what to do with floor yet. Dont really want to leave grass - it
>>> wont last long and would become a muddy hole............
>>> "Angie" <angiem RemoveThis @insight.rr.com> wrote in message
>>> news:xrYMg.1152$MD6.8@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com...
>>>> The mud part is baaaaaad so thats why I am wondering about gravel,
>>>> concrete?????
>>>> Hubby and brother going to construct so they are open to whatever!!!
>>>>
>>>> ""alpha.shanna©"" <alpha.shanna©@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:flYMg.51$IA.3@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com...
>>>>> Angie wrote:
>>>>>> Hi everyone
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Need some tips.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Over the past few months we have kenneled Duke often and where he
>>>>>> stays has an outdoor run that he loves!! They say they have to
>>>>>> practically drag him in every night LOL.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> He is an indoor dog, but enjoys being out and our fence is only 4 ft
>>>>>> high and I feel like I have to watch him all the time. He loves to
>>>>>> just go out and run around and roll around and sniff and investigate
>>>>>> and just lay around, but gets into mischief and barks at the fence
>>>>>> and like I said the fence is only 4 ft high !!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We would like to construct a long wide kennel run type area with a 6
>>>>>> ft fence. I have chose an area that gets shade and sun for him and
>>>>>> it will mostly be used just for few hours here and there, so it is
>>>>>> not something that he would be kept in while away, at night or winter
>>>>>> months. Soooo my questions are as follows:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Buy the pre made kennel fence?
>>>>>> Conrete floor? He likes mud and digging, weed and eat grass dirt etc
>>>>>> lol.
>>>>>> Do I need housing since it is just for him to enjoy being out and
>>>>>> checking things out (he is a very busy boy)
>>>>>> The area is very flat and runs along the back of the yard.
>>>>>> How big should it really be - we have plenty of room and size really
>>>>>> is not an issue.
>>>>>> If there is anything else I may be missing let me know
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>> Angie
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> A couple of thoughts for you. The Home Depot type places have prefab
>>>>> kennels, different sizes & styles. They would be easy to relocate
>>>>> if/when he digs up the current location. lol
>>>>>
>>>>> And if you leave him in the dirt/mud, he will need a bath when you
>>>>> bring him in.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Shanna & Trouble
>>>>>
>>>>> Email: Remove the
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
 >> Stay informed about: Dog Run 

Concrete, and quite likely those rubber pads that Russ mentioned would be
able to be sterilized clean which might be something you need at this
particular crossroad in YOUR life. Stall mats for horses and cattle also
are probably available at the tractor store.

I personally use a load of slag stone then pea gravel.

Another suggestion maybe would be patio stones (the big 12" x 12" ones) Use
that for half since hubby wants to go so large and keep the other half
gravel or dirt so he gets the best of both worlds.

And yes, by law everywhere, if he is going to spend time in it, he needs
some form of shelter even if he'll never need it. If hubby is feeling
ambitious, he can build a dog house from wood.....and if not, go back to the
tractor store or pet store and just pick up one of those plastic houses with
the big doorway. You might like to grab a decent sized tarp too for
stringing up across the top at one end for shade too. Alternatively a good
size piece of plywood leaning lengthways up the side of the dog house will
work too.

10 x 30 eh...NICE!!!
Sandra

"Angie" <angiem.DeleteThis@insight.rr.com> wrote in message
news:et5Ng.4348$zt1.877@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com...
> A concrete kennel pad acts similar to a sponge. As liquids are introduced
> onto its surface, they soak deep into its pores. These damp pores in the
> concrete provide the perfect breeding ground for bacteria, mold, mildew
and
> unpleasant odors.
>
> Concrete may also be used for multi-tiered kennels. It is good, strong
> material that is also easy to clean. The only disadvantage is that insects
> and other parasites may live in the cracks that will form in time.
>
> Guess that was easy enough. There was more elsewhere but that was a
> beginning for you.
>
> Still looking for alternatives - I am seeing smooth pea gravel mentioned
> often - remember this is just a place for him to hang out for couple hours
> during good weather. And not using concrete means if we want to move it
> elsewhere, we would be able to. Hubby has decided to make it about 10 X
30
> X 6. Who knows what he will do LOL
>
> Angie
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> , "Angie" <angiem.DeleteThis@insight.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:qc5Ng.1041$131.876@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com...
>
> > Let me try and find it again Russ - was rather interesting - may take a
> > day or so........eyesight a little iffy right now with what is going
> > on..........dont think I updated you........
> >
> > Angie
> >
> > "Russ" <dontmailmeillmailyou.DeleteThis@abc.com> wrote in message
> > news:Oe4Ng.2439$cz3.633@edtnps82...
> >> What did you read about concrete?
> >>
> >> "Angie" <angiem.DeleteThis@insight.rr.com> wrote in message
> >> news:Kx2Ng.1023$131.644@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com...
> >>> Ok read something about staying away from concrete which i wanted to
do
> >>> anyhow - found a nice kennel set up at tractor supply - comes 10 x 10
x
> >>> 6 and extra panels available. so got that much figured out - but it
is
> >>> the what to do with floor yet. Dont really want to leave grass - it
> >>> wont last long and would become a muddy hole............
> >>> "Angie" <angiem.DeleteThis@insight.rr.com> wrote in message
> >>> news:xrYMg.1152$MD6.8@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com...
> >>>> The mud part is baaaaaad so thats why I am wondering about gravel,
> >>>> concrete?????
> >>>> Hubby and brother going to construct so they are open to whatever!!!
> >>>>
> >>>> ""alpha.shanna©"" <alpha.shanna©@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> >>>> news:flYMg.51$IA.3@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com...
> >>>>> Angie wrote:
> >>>>>> Hi everyone
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Need some tips.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Over the past few months we have kenneled Duke often and where he
> >>>>>> stays has an outdoor run that he loves!! They say they have to
> >>>>>> practically drag him in every night LOL.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> He is an indoor dog, but enjoys being out and our fence is only 4
ft
> >>>>>> high and I feel like I have to watch him all the time. He loves to
> >>>>>> just go out and run around and roll around and sniff and
investigate
> >>>>>> and just lay around, but gets into mischief and barks at the fence
> >>>>>> and like I said the fence is only 4 ft high !!!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> We would like to construct a long wide kennel run type area with a
6
> >>>>>> ft fence. I have chose an area that gets shade and sun for him and
> >>>>>> it will mostly be used just for few hours here and there, so it is
> >>>>>> not something that he would be kept in while away, at night or
winter
> >>>>>> months. Soooo my questions are as follows:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Buy the pre made kennel fence?
> >>>>>> Conrete floor? He likes mud and digging, weed and eat grass dirt
etc
> >>>>>> lol.
> >>>>>> Do I need housing since it is just for him to enjoy being out and
> >>>>>> checking things out (he is a very busy boy)
> >>>>>> The area is very flat and runs along the back of the yard.
> >>>>>> How big should it really be - we have plenty of room and size
really
> >>>>>> is not an issue.
> >>>>>> If there is anything else I may be missing let me know
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Thanks
> >>>>>> Angie
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> A couple of thoughts for you. The Home Depot type places have
prefab
> >>>>> kennels, different sizes & styles. They would be easy to relocate
> >>>>> if/when he digs up the current location. lol
> >>>>>
> >>>>> And if you leave him in the dirt/mud, he will need a bath when you
> >>>>> bring him in.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> Shanna & Trouble
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Email: Remove the
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
 >> Stay informed about: Dog Run 

Hey

What about that 1/2 to 1 inch thick rubber that they use in doggy day cares?
They come in 4x8 slabs methinks

"Angie" <angiem DeleteThis @insight.rr.com> wrote in message
news:et5Ng.4348$zt1.877@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com...
>A concrete kennel pad acts similar to a sponge. As liquids are introduced
>onto its surface, they soak deep into its pores. These damp pores in the
>concrete provide the perfect breeding ground for bacteria, mold, mildew and
>unpleasant odors.
>
> Concrete may also be used for multi-tiered kennels. It is good, strong
> material that is also easy to clean. The only disadvantage is that insects
> and other parasites may live in the cracks that will form in time.
>
> Guess that was easy enough. There was more elsewhere but that was a
> beginning for you.
>
> Still looking for alternatives - I am seeing smooth pea gravel mentioned
> often - remember this is just a place for him to hang out for couple hours
> during good weather. And not using concrete means if we want to move it
> elsewhere, we would be able to. Hubby has decided to make it about 10 X
> 30 X 6. Who knows what he will do LOL
>
> Angie
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> , "Angie" <angiem DeleteThis @insight.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:qc5Ng.1041$131.876@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com...
>
>> Let me try and find it again Russ - was rather interesting - may take a
>> day or so........eyesight a little iffy right now with what is going
>> on..........dont think I updated you........
>>
>> Angie
>>
>> "Russ" <dontmailmeillmailyou DeleteThis @abc.com> wrote in message
>> news:Oe4Ng.2439$cz3.633@edtnps82...
>>> What did you read about concrete?
>>>
>>> "Angie" <angiem DeleteThis @insight.rr.com> wrote in message
>>> news:Kx2Ng.1023$131.644@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com...
>>>> Ok read something about staying away from concrete which i wanted to do
>>>> anyhow - found a nice kennel set up at tractor supply - comes 10 x 10 x
>>>> 6 and extra panels available. so got that much figured out - but it is
>>>> the what to do with floor yet. Dont really want to leave grass - it
>>>> wont last long and would become a muddy hole............
>>>> "Angie" <angiem DeleteThis @insight.rr.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:xrYMg.1152$MD6.8@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com...
>>>>> The mud part is baaaaaad so thats why I am wondering about gravel,
>>>>> concrete?????
>>>>> Hubby and brother going to construct so they are open to whatever!!!
>>>>>
>>>>> ""alpha.shanna©"" <alpha.shanna©@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:flYMg.51$IA.3@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com...
>>>>>> Angie wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi everyone
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Need some tips.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Over the past few months we have kenneled Duke often and where he
>>>>>>> stays has an outdoor run that he loves!! They say they have to
>>>>>>> practically drag him in every night LOL.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> He is an indoor dog, but enjoys being out and our fence is only 4 ft
>>>>>>> high and I feel like I have to watch him all the time. He loves to
>>>>>>> just go out and run around and roll around and sniff and investigate
>>>>>>> and just lay around, but gets into mischief and barks at the fence
>>>>>>> and like I said the fence is only 4 ft high !!!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We would like to construct a long wide kennel run type area with a 6
>>>>>>> ft fence. I have chose an area that gets shade and sun for him and
>>>>>>> it will mostly be used just for few hours here and there, so it is
>>>>>>> not something that he would be kept in while away, at night or
>>>>>>> winter months. Soooo my questions are as follows:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Buy the pre made kennel fence?
>>>>>>> Conrete floor? He likes mud and digging, weed and eat grass dirt etc
>>>>>>> lol.
>>>>>>> Do I need housing since it is just for him to enjoy being out and
>>>>>>> checking things out (he is a very busy boy)
>>>>>>> The area is very flat and runs along the back of the yard.
>>>>>>> How big should it really be - we have plenty of room and size really
>>>>>>> is not an issue.
>>>>>>> If there is anything else I may be missing let me know
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>> Angie
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> A couple of thoughts for you. The Home Depot type places have prefab
>>>>>> kennels, different sizes & styles. They would be easy to relocate
>>>>>> if/when he digs up the current location. lol
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And if you leave him in the dirt/mud, he will need a bath when you
>>>>>> bring him in.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Shanna & Trouble
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Email: Remove the
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
 >> Stay informed about: Dog Run 

LMAO at the 10x30 eh hahhaaa - dont you know how spoiled he is ????? Thanks
for all the info and suggestions!! Will let you know how this project goes
LOL


"Sandra" <sandway.RemoveThis@primus.ca> wrote in message
news:6b8c2$45050d0d$d15a800e$3997@PRIMUS.CA...
> Concrete, and quite likely those rubber pads that Russ mentioned would be
> able to be sterilized clean which might be something you need at this
> particular crossroad in YOUR life. Stall mats for horses and cattle also
> are probably available at the tractor store.
>
> I personally use a load of slag stone then pea gravel.
>
> Another suggestion maybe would be patio stones (the big 12" x 12" ones)
> Use
> that for half since hubby wants to go so large and keep the other half
> gravel or dirt so he gets the best of both worlds.
>
> And yes, by law everywhere, if he is going to spend time in it, he needs
> some form of shelter even if he'll never need it. If hubby is feeling
> ambitious, he can build a dog house from wood.....and if not, go back to
> the
> tractor store or pet store and just pick up one of those plastic houses
> with
> the big doorway. You might like to grab a decent sized tarp too for
> stringing up across the top at one end for shade too. Alternatively a
> good
> size piece of plywood leaning lengthways up the side of the dog house will
> work too.
>
> 10 x 30 eh...NICE!!!
> Sandra
>
> "Angie" <angiem.RemoveThis@insight.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:et5Ng.4348$zt1.877@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com...
>> A concrete kennel pad acts similar to a sponge. As liquids are introduced
>> onto its surface, they soak deep into its pores. These damp pores in the
>> concrete provide the perfect breeding ground for bacteria, mold, mildew
> and
>> unpleasant odors.
>>
>> Concrete may also be used for multi-tiered kennels. It is good, strong
>> material that is also easy to clean. The only disadvantage is that
>> insects
>> and other parasites may live in the cracks that will form in time.
>>
>> Guess that was easy enough. There was more elsewhere but that was a
>> beginning for you.
>>
>> Still looking for alternatives - I am seeing smooth pea gravel mentioned
>> often - remember this is just a place for him to hang out for couple
>> hours
>> during good weather. And not using concrete means if we want to move it
>> elsewhere, we would be able to. Hubby has decided to make it about 10 X
> 30
>> X 6. Who knows what he will do LOL
>>
>> Angie
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> , "Angie" <angiem.RemoveThis@insight.rr.com> wrote in message
>> news:qc5Ng.1041$131.876@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com...
>>
>> > Let me try and find it again Russ - was rather interesting - may take a
>> > day or so........eyesight a little iffy right now with what is going
>> > on..........dont think I updated you........
>> >
>> > Angie
>> >
>> > "Russ" <dontmailmeillmailyou.RemoveThis@abc.com> wrote in message
>> > news:Oe4Ng.2439$cz3.633@edtnps82...
>> >> What did you read about concrete?
>> >>
>> >> "Angie" <angiem.RemoveThis@insight.rr.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:Kx2Ng.1023$131.644@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com...
>> >>> Ok read something about staying away from concrete which i wanted to
> do
>> >>> anyhow - found a nice kennel set up at tractor supply - comes 10 x 10
> x
>> >>> 6 and extra panels available. so got that much figured out - but it
> is
>> >>> the what to do with floor yet. Dont really want to leave grass - it
>> >>> wont last long and would become a muddy hole............
>> >>> "Angie" <angiem.RemoveThis@insight.rr.com> wrote in message
>> >>> news:xrYMg.1152$MD6.8@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com...
>> >>>> The mud part is baaaaaad so thats why I am wondering about gravel,
>> >>>> concrete?????
>> >>>> Hubby and brother going to construct so they are open to whatever!!!
>> >>>>
>> >>>> ""alpha.shanna©"" <alpha.shanna©@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>> >>>> news:flYMg.51$IA.3@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com...
>> >>>>> Angie wrote:
>> >>>>>> Hi everyone
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Need some tips.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Over the past few months we have kenneled Duke often and where he
>> >>>>>> stays has an outdoor run that he loves!! They say they have to
>> >>>>>> practically drag him in every night LOL.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> He is an indoor dog, but enjoys being out and our fence is only 4
> ft
>> >>>>>> high and I feel like I have to watch him all the time. He loves to
>> >>>>>> just go out and run around and roll around and sniff and
> investigate
>> >>>>>> and just lay around, but gets into mischief and barks at the fence
>> >>>>>> and like I said the fence is only 4 ft high !!!
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> We would like to construct a long wide kennel run type area with a
> 6
>> >>>>>> ft fence. I have chose an area that gets shade and sun for him
>> >>>>>> and
>> >>>>>> it will mostly be used just for few hours here and there, so it is
>> >>>>>> not something that he would be kept in while away, at night or
> winter
>> >>>>>> months. Soooo my questions are as follows:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Buy the pre made kennel fence?
>> >>>>>> Conrete floor? He likes mud and digging, weed and eat grass dirt
> etc
>> >>>>>> lol.
>> >>>>>> Do I need housing since it is just for him to enjoy being out and
>> >>>>>> checking things out (he is a very busy boy)
>> >>>>>> The area is very flat and runs along the back of the yard.
>> >>>>>> How big should it really be - we have plenty of room and size
> really
>> >>>>>> is not an issue.
>> >>>>>> If there is anything else I may be missing let me know
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Thanks
>> >>>>>> Angie
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>> A couple of thoughts for you. The Home Depot type places have
> prefab
>> >>>>> kennels, different sizes & styles. They would be easy to relocate
>> >>>>> if/when he digs up the current location. lol
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> And if you leave him in the dirt/mud, he will need a bath when you
>> >>>>> bring him in.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> --
>> >>>>> Shanna & Trouble
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Email: Remove the
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
 >> Stay informed about: Dog Run 

LOL I know I know! My kennels are 16 x 8 each and most think that's too
big for the size of my dogs while I would like them bigger. The SPCA thinks
that they are perfect so I'm not complaining. lol

Now the one thing to keep in mind just in case Duke is as smart as we all
know he really is....that 30 ft is a nice starting runway for going up and
over! I don't know if you remember my girl Sonja or her son Toxic, but they
found that the 16 ft was a perfect distance to have for takeoff to go up and
over that 6 ft height! Sonja started it and taught Toxic and the pair only
went over for the purpose of getting into the other ones' kennel! lol I
put all of hubby's ladders across her roof....like 15 of them, staggered
over the entire length....damn dog found a way to get herself through all
the ladder rungs.

LMAO One day I was out feeding and as I left the east side of the yard with
two kennels over there, this red dog went flying past me and up into Sonja's
kennel. I started cursing Sonja wondering where it was she came from behind
me. Get over to her kennel and she comes cruising out of the house to meet
Toxic who was just landing inside! Stupid ass pair....they looked so much
alike that I had to look underneath to see male or female!

Needless to say they both got kennels with full roofs!
Sandra

"Angie" <angiem.RemoveThis@insight.rr.com> wrote in message
news:y1aNg.1305$MD6.576@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com...
> LMAO at the 10x30 eh hahhaaa - dont you know how spoiled he is ?????
Thanks
> for all the info and suggestions!! Will let you know how this project
goes
> LOL
>
>
> "Sandra" <sandway.RemoveThis@primus.ca> wrote in message
> news:6b8c2$45050d0d$d15a800e$3997@PRIMUS.CA...
> > Concrete, and quite likely those rubber pads that Russ mentioned would
be
> > able to be sterilized clean which might be something you need at this
> > particular crossroad in YOUR life. Stall mats for horses and cattle
also
> > are probably available at the tractor store.
> >
> > I personally use a load of slag stone then pea gravel.
> >
> > Another suggestion maybe would be patio stones (the big 12" x 12" ones)
> > Use
> > that for half since hubby wants to go so large and keep the other half
> > gravel or dirt so he gets the best of both worlds.
> >
> > And yes, by law everywhere, if he is going to spend time in it, he needs
> > some form of shelter even if he'll never need it. If hubby is feeling
> > ambitious, he can build a dog house from wood.....and if not, go back to
> > the
> > tractor store or pet store and just pick up one of those plastic houses
> > with
> > the big doorway. You might like to grab a decent sized tarp too for
> > stringing up across the top at one end for shade too. Alternatively a
> > good
> > size piece of plywood leaning lengthways up the side of the dog house
will
> > work too.
> >
> > 10 x 30 eh...NICE!!!
> > Sandra
> >
> > "Angie" <angiem.RemoveThis@insight.rr.com> wrote in message
> > news:et5Ng.4348$zt1.877@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com...
> >> A concrete kennel pad acts similar to a sponge. As liquids are
introduced
> >> onto its surface, they soak deep into its pores. These damp pores in
the
> >> concrete provide the perfect breeding ground for bacteria, mold, mildew
> > and
> >> unpleasant odors.
> >>
> >> Concrete may also be used for multi-tiered kennels. It is good, strong
> >> material that is also easy to clean. The only disadvantage is that
> >> insects
> >> and other parasites may live in the cracks that will form in time.
> >>
> >> Guess that was easy enough. There was more elsewhere but that was a
> >> beginning for you.
> >>
> >> Still looking for alternatives - I am seeing smooth pea gravel
mentioned
> >> often - remember this is just a place for him to hang out for couple
> >> hours
> >> during good weather. And not using concrete means if we want to move
it
> >> elsewhere, we would be able to. Hubby has decided to make it about 10
X
> > 30
> >> X 6. Who knows what he will do LOL
> >>
> >> Angie
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> , "Angie" <angiem.RemoveThis@insight.rr.com> wrote in message
> >> news:qc5Ng.1041$131.876@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com...
> >>
> >> > Let me try and find it again Russ - was rather interesting - may take
a
> >> > day or so........eyesight a little iffy right now with what is going
> >> > on..........dont think I updated you........
> >> >
> >> > Angie
> >> >
> >> > "Russ" <dontmailmeillmailyou.RemoveThis@abc.com> wrote in message
> >> > news:Oe4Ng.2439$cz3.633@edtnps82...
> >> >> What did you read about concrete?
> >> >>
> >> >> "Angie" <angiem.RemoveThis@insight.rr.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:Kx2Ng.1023$131.644@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com...
> >> >>> Ok read something about staying away from concrete which i wanted
to
> > do
> >> >>> anyhow - found a nice kennel set up at tractor supply - comes 10 x
10
> > x
> >> >>> 6 and extra panels available. so got that much figured out - but
it
> > is
> >> >>> the what to do with floor yet. Dont really want to leave grass -
it
> >> >>> wont last long and would become a muddy hole............
> >> >>> "Angie" <angiem.RemoveThis@insight.rr.com> wrote in message
> >> >>> news:xrYMg.1152$MD6.8@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com...
> >> >>>> The mud part is baaaaaad so thats why I am wondering about gravel,
> >> >>>> concrete?????
> >> >>>> Hubby and brother going to construct so they are open to
whatever!!!
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> ""alpha.shanna©"" <alpha.shanna©@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> >> >>>> news:flYMg.51$IA.3@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com...
> >> >>>>> Angie wrote:
> >> >>>>>> Hi everyone
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> Need some tips.
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> Over the past few months we have kenneled Duke often and where
he
> >> >>>>>> stays has an outdoor run that he loves!! They say they have to
> >> >>>>>> practically drag him in every night LOL.
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> He is an indoor dog, but enjoys being out and our fence is only
4
> > ft
> >> >>>>>> high and I feel like I have to watch him all the time. He loves
to
> >> >>>>>> just go out and run around and roll around and sniff and
> > investigate
> >> >>>>>> and just lay around, but gets into mischief and barks at the
fence
> >> >>>>>> and like I said the fence is only 4 ft high !!!
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> We would like to construct a long wide kennel run type area with
a
> > 6
> >> >>>>>> ft fence. I have chose an area that gets shade and sun for him
> >> >>>>>> and
> >> >>>>>> it will mostly be used just for few hours here and there, so it
is
> >> >>>>>> not something that he would be kept in while away, at night or
> > winter
> >> >>>>>> months. Soooo my questions are as follows:
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> Buy the pre made kennel fence?
> >> >>>>>> Conrete floor? He likes mud and digging, weed and eat grass dirt
> > etc
> >> >>>>>> lol.
> >> >>>>>> Do I need housing since it is just for him to enjoy being out
and
> >> >>>>>> checking things out (he is a very busy boy)
> >> >>>>>> The area is very flat and runs along the back of the yard.
> >> >>>>>> How big should it really be - we have plenty of room and size
> > really
> >> >>>>>> is not an issue.
> >> >>>>>> If there is anything else I may be missing let me know
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> Thanks
> >> >>>>>> Angie
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>> A couple of thoughts for you. The Home Depot type places have
> > prefab
> >> >>>>> kennels, different sizes & styles. They would be easy to
relocate
> >> >>>>> if/when he digs up the current location. lol
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> And if you leave him in the dirt/mud, he will need a bath when
you
> >> >>>>> bring him in.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> --
> >> >>>>> Shanna & Trouble
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> Email: Remove the
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
 >> Stay informed about: Dog Run 

Been there, done that. 6 feet is nothing to a determined dog. When
Buster was with us he would go over our 6 foot privacy fence to visit
this good looking black lab (Rosie) . Her 4' chain link was just a
step. When he finished visiting he would come home the same way.
Imagine my shock to find my dog in someone else's yard. I spent hours
trying to find out how he was getting out. My neighbor came over and
told me how he was doing this and that he had been doing this about a
month. Also about the pavers I hope your dogs aren't as determined as
Rudy or they will be dragging them around the kennel. Rudy drags
concrete blocks around. Of course he also drags 6' landscape timbers,
Rachels wading pool (with water), boards, whatever he can find that
someone leaves in the back. I do a constant search and sieze in the
back yard. Carolyn
Sandra wrote:
> LOL I know I know! My kennels are 16 x 8 each and most think that's too
> big for the size of my dogs while I would like them bigger. The SPCA thinks
> that they are perfect so I'm not complaining. lol
>
> Now the one thing to keep in mind just in case Duke is as smart as we all
> know he really is....that 30 ft is a nice starting runway for going up and
> over! I don't know if you remember my girl Sonja or her son Toxic, but they
> found that the 16 ft was a perfect distance to have for takeoff to go up and
> over that 6 ft height! Sonja started it and taught Toxic and the pair only
> went over for the purpose of getting into the other ones' kennel! lol I
> put all of hubby's ladders across her roof....like 15 of them, staggered
> over the entire length....damn dog found a way to get herself through all
> the ladder rungs.
>
> LMAO One day I was out feeding and as I left the east side of the yard with
> two kennels over there, this red dog went flying past me and up into Sonja's
> kennel. I started cursing Sonja wondering where it was she came from behind
> me. Get over to her kennel and she comes cruising out of the house to meet
> Toxic who was just landing inside! Stupid ass pair....they looked so much
> alike that I had to look underneath to see male or female!
>
> Needless to say they both got kennels with full roofs!
> Sandra
>
> "Angie" <angiem.DeleteThis@insight.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:y1aNg.1305$MD6.576@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com...
> > LMAO at the 10x30 eh hahhaaa - dont you know how spoiled he is ?????
> Thanks
> > for all the info and suggestions!! Will let you know how this project
> goes
> > LOL
> >
> >
> > "Sandra" <sandway.DeleteThis@primus.ca> wrote in message
> > news:6b8c2$45050d0d$d15a800e$3997@PRIMUS.CA...
> > > Concrete, and quite likely those rubber pads that Russ mentioned would
> be
> > > able to be sterilized clean which might be something you need at this
> > > particular crossroad in YOUR life. Stall mats for horses and cattle
> also
> > > are probably available at the tractor store.
> > >
> > > I personally use a load of slag stone then pea gravel.
> > >
> > > Another suggestion maybe would be patio stones (the big 12" x 12" ones)
> > > Use
> > > that for half since hubby wants to go so large and keep the other half
> > > gravel or dirt so he gets the best of both worlds.
> > >
> > > And yes, by law everywhere, if he is going to spend time in it, he needs
> > > some form of shelter even if he'll never need it. If hubby is feeling
> > > ambitious, he can build a dog house from wood.....and if not, go back to
> > > the
> > > tractor store or pet store and just pick up one of those plastic houses
> > > with
> > > the big doorway. You might like to grab a decent sized tarp too for
> > > stringing up across the top at one end for shade too. Alternatively a
> > > good
> > > size piece of plywood leaning lengthways up the side of the dog house
> will
> > > work too.
> > >
> > > 10 x 30 eh...NICE!!!
> > > Sandra
> > >
> > > "Angie" <angiem.DeleteThis@insight.rr.com> wrote in message
> > > news:et5Ng.4348$zt1.877@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com...
> > >> A concrete kennel pad acts similar to a sponge. As liquids are
> introduced
> > >> onto its surface, they soak deep into its pores. These damp pores in
> the
> > >> concrete provide the perfect breeding ground for bacteria, mold, mildew
> > > and
> > >> unpleasant odors.
> > >>
> > >> Concrete may also be used for multi-tiered kennels. It is good, strong
> > >> material that is also easy to clean. The only disadvantage is that
> > >> insects
> > >> and other parasites may live in the cracks that will form in time.
> > >>
> > >> Guess that was easy enough. There was more elsewhere but that was a
> > >> beginning for you.
> > >>
> > >> Still looking for alternatives - I am seeing smooth pea gravel
> mentioned
> > >> often - remember this is just a place for him to hang out for couple
> > >> hours
> > >> during good weather. And not using concrete means if we want to move
> it
> > >> elsewhere, we would be able to. Hubby has decided to make it about 10
> X
> > > 30
> > >> X 6. Who knows what he will do LOL
> > >>
> > >> Angie
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> , "Angie" <angiem.DeleteThis@insight.rr.com> wrote in message
> > >> news:qc5Ng.1041$131.876@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com...
> > >>
> > >> > Let me try and find it again Russ - was rather interesting - may take
> a
> > >> > day or so........eyesight a little iffy right now with what is going
> > >> > on..........dont think I updated you........
> > >> >
> > >> > Angie
> > >> >
> > >> > "Russ" <dontmailmeillmailyou.DeleteThis@abc.com> wrote in message
> > >> > news:Oe4Ng.2439$cz3.633@edtnps82...
> > >> >> What did you read about concrete?
> > >> >>
> > >> >> "Angie" <angiem.DeleteThis@insight.rr.com> wrote in message
> > >> >> news:Kx2Ng.1023$131.644@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com...
> > >> >>> Ok read something about staying away from concrete which i wanted
> to
> > > do
> > >> >>> anyhow - found a nice kennel set up at tractor supply - comes 10 x
> 10
> > > x
> > >> >>> 6 and extra panels available. so got that much figured out - but
> it
> > > is
> > >> >>> the what to do with floor yet. Dont really want to leave grass -
> it
> > >> >>> wont last long and would become a muddy hole............
> > >> >>> "Angie" <angiem.DeleteThis@insight.rr.com> wrote in message
> > >> >>> news:xrYMg.1152$MD6.8@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com...
> > >> >>>> The mud part is baaaaaad so thats why I am wondering about gravel,
> > >> >>>> concrete?????
> > >> >>>> Hubby and brother going to construct so they are open to
> whatever!!!
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>> ""alpha.shanna©"" <alpha.shanna©@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> > >> >>>> news:flYMg.51$IA.3@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com...
> > >> >>>>> Angie wrote:
> > >> >>>>>> Hi everyone
> > >> >>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>> Need some tips.
> > >> >>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>> Over the past few months we have kenneled Duke often and where
> he
> > >> >>>>>> stays has an outdoor run that he loves!! They say they have to
> > >> >>>>>> practically drag him in every night LOL.
> > >> >>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>> He is an indoor dog, but enjoys being out and our fence is only
> 4
> > > ft
> > >> >>>>>> high and I feel like I have to watch him all the time. He loves
> to
> > >> >>>>>> just go out and run around and roll around and sniff and
> > > investigate
> > >> >>>>>> and just lay around, but gets into mischief and barks at the
> fence
> > >> >>>>>> and like I said the fence is only 4 ft high !!!
> > >> >>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>> We would like to construct a long wide kennel run type area with
> a
> > > 6
> > >> >>>>>> ft fence. I have chose an area that gets shade and sun for him
> > >> >>>>>> and
> > >> >>>>>> it will mostly be used just for few hours here and there, so it
> is
> > >> >>>>>> not something that he would be kept in while away, at night or
> > > winter
> > >> >>>>>> months. Soooo my questions are as follows:
> > >> >>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>> Buy the pre made kennel fence?
> > >> >>>>>> Conrete floor? He likes mud and digging, weed and eat grass dirt
> > > etc
> > >> >>>>>> lol.
> > >> >>>>>> Do I need housing since it is just for him to enjoy being out
> and
> > >> >>>>>> checking things out (he is a very busy boy)
> > >> >>>>>> The area is very flat and runs along the back of the yard.
> > >> >>>>>> How big should it really be - we have plenty of room and size
> > > really
> > >> >>>>>> is not an issue.
> > >> >>>>>> If there is anything else I may be missing let me know
> > >> >>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>> Thanks
> > >> >>>>>> Angie
> > >> >>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>
> > >> >>>>> A couple of thoughts for you. The Home Depot type places have
> > > prefab
> > >> >>>>> kennels, different sizes & styles. They would be easy to
> relocate
> > >> >>>>> if/when he digs up the current location. lol
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >>>>> And if you leave him in the dirt/mud, he will need a bath when
> you
> > >> >>>>> bring him in.
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >>>>> --
> > >> >>>>> Shanna & Trouble
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >>>>> Email: Remove the
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
> >