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Paul E. Schoen

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 1:06 pm
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You may have seen this before, but I thought it was fascinating. Snopes
says it's true:

http://www.snopes.com/photos/animals/polardog.asp

Of course, polar bears (and any other wild animals) are not always gentle,
but this shows that creatures of various kinds can coexist peacefully and
even interact closely, if their basic needs (mostly food) are met.
Unfortunately, global warming may soon bring about the demise of these
gentle creatures (sled dogs?).

Those who want to continue in their lifestyles of excessive energy
consumption and lack of environmental responsibility deny humanity's role
in causing the present surge in global warming and the chaotic weather
patterns it has been spawning, but it is better to err on the side of
caution (even if that makes for personal inconvenience and sacrifice),
rather than pass on to our next generations a very unstable environment
that will be unable to sustain even a moderately comfortable lifestyle for
all the people on earth.

I attended the rally in Annapolis last Thursday with about 400 people who
care about the environment. You might (just "bearly") see me wearing a
Sierra Club cap in this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_K7Gswf3l3A

By the way, if you try to make light of this effort by pointing out the
irony of a Global Warming rally in a snowstorm, realize that the snow was
caused by a warm front that passed over an Arctic air mass, and in the
weeks before we set several records for warm temperatures in January.

Please do your part to help alleviate this impending crisis.

http://maryland.sierraclub.org/action/p0065.asp

Paul and Muttley

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Melinda Shore

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 1:25 pm
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In article <4798d39f$0$1213$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net>,
Paul E. Schoen <pstech DeleteThis @smart.net> wrote:
>Of course, polar bears (and any other wild animals) are not always gentle,
>but this shows that creatures of various kinds can coexist peacefully and
>even interact closely, if their basic needs (mostly food) are met.

Paul, you're an idiot. But if you want to go all Tim
Treadwell on the ice, you've got my 100% support. Good
luck!

Also, I don't know what rock you've been living under (and
don't want to) but these photos have been published in a
number of magazines and are sufficiently well-known to have
made Snopes. They've also been discussed right here in this
very spot. Within the last six months, too.

>Unfortunately, global warming may soon bring about the demise of these
>gentle creatures (sled dogs?).

Paul, you're an idiot. There's nothing gentle about polar
bears. You don't have to turn them into fuzzy-wuzzy,
lovey-dovey anthropomorphized big white balls of LURVE to
care about what happens to them. Polar bears stalk and
attack humans and should be respected in their place at the
top of the food chain, not misrepresented as a cuddly toy
for kids. Jeebus, Paul, but you're an idiot. And I don't
know what the hell you're doing with the Sierra Club but
since you've repeatedly demonstrated a profound cluelessness
about the natural world I'd have to guess that it's limited
to roadside trash pickup for a bit of highway they've
sponsored.

Not for the squeamish:
http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/bl_polar_bear_attack2.htm
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Davina Stuart

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 10:29 pm
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"Melinda Shore" <shore.DeleteThis@panix.com> wrote in message
news:fnal68$jsv$1@panix3.panix.com...
> In article <4798d39f$0$1213$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net>,
> Paul E. Schoen <pstech.DeleteThis@smart.net> wrote:
>>Of course, polar bears (and any other wild animals) are not always gentle,
>>but this shows that creatures of various kinds can coexist peacefully and
>>even interact closely, if their basic needs (mostly food) are met.
>
> Paul, you're an idiot. But if you want to go all Tim
> Treadwell on the ice, you've got my 100% support. Good
> luck!
>
> Also, I don't know what rock you've been living under (and
> don't want to) but these photos have been published in a
> number of magazines and are sufficiently well-known to have
> made Snopes. They've also been discussed right here in this
> very spot. Within the last six months, too.
>
>>Unfortunately, global warming may soon bring about the demise of these
>>gentle creatures (sled dogs?).
>
> Paul, you're an idiot. There's nothing gentle about polar
> bears. You don't have to turn them into fuzzy-wuzzy,
> lovey-dovey anthropomorphized big white balls of LURVE to
> care about what happens to them. Polar bears stalk and
> attack humans and should be respected in their place at the
> top of the food chain, not misrepresented as a cuddly toy
> for kids. Jeebus, Paul, but you're an idiot. And I don't
> know what the hell you're doing with the Sierra Club but
> since you've repeatedly demonstrated a profound cluelessness
> about the natural world I'd have to guess that it's limited
> to roadside trash pickup for a bit of highway they've
> sponsored.
>
> Not for the squeamish:
> http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/bl_polar_bear_attack2.htm
> --
> Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis - shore.DeleteThis@panix.com
>
> Prouder than ever to be a member of the reality-based community


Fraid I have to agree with Melinda here.. this past year my hubby has worked
up on the nosrth slope on a little man made island just off the north
coast.. they have big watch towers and very loud alarms that go off if a
polar bear is spotted on the island.. these alarms signal RUN for
shelter!!!! and you wait until the all clear is sounded before going back
out.. the Polar bears WILL eat you if given a chance...
I'm all for preserving the polar bears, the wolves, and lots of other not so
cuddly critters that get made cute in the stuffed toy bins.. but i don't
want to get near one. there have been several wolf attacks in the Anchorage
area the last 2 months (not to mention the moose, the porcupine and the
bears and the hawks and eagles that can carry off small dogs...) so we make
sure the dogs are only let out in the small run and only under supervision
(not that that's hard right now.,. too cold, they don't want to go out - who
can blaime them.. it's been 10-20 degrees below zero mostly this last week
or so...)

Davina
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Melinda Shore

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 9:27 am
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In article <13qlcajd4e1bf50.DeleteThis@corp.supernews.com>,
Davina Stuart <327cat.DeleteThis@matonline.net> wrote:
>(not that that's hard right now.,. too cold, they don't want to go out - who
>can blaime them.. it's been 10-20 degrees below zero mostly this last week
>or so...)

Yesterday I got email from someone who's driving from
Colorado to somewhere-or-other in Alaska during this cold
snap. One of his dogs chewed the cord off his engine block
heater and so he couldn't plug in, and when he started up
his truck one morning in the Yukon the oil was so thick it
blew out a gasket in his engine. He got it fixed and since
then, at night he gets up every 2-3 hours to run his engine
for a bit. I impagine that once he gets to a city, getting
his heater fixed will be a priority.

It's -45 in Fairbanks as I post this. The Yukon Quest
starts this weekend, and it ought to be just brutal.
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Davina Stuart

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 12:11 pm
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"Melinda Shore" <shore.RemoveThis@panix.com> wrote in message
news:fof4h4$1p8$1@panix3.panix.com...
> In article <13qlcajd4e1bf50.RemoveThis@corp.supernews.com>,
> Davina Stuart <327cat.RemoveThis@matonline.net> wrote:
>>(not that that's hard right now.,. too cold, they don't want to go out -
>>who
>>can blaime them.. it's been 10-20 degrees below zero mostly this last week
>>or so...)
>
> Yesterday I got email from someone who's driving from
> Colorado to somewhere-or-other in Alaska during this cold
> snap. One of his dogs chewed the cord off his engine block
> heater and so he couldn't plug in, and when he started up
> his truck one morning in the Yukon the oil was so thick it
> blew out a gasket in his engine. He got it fixed and since
> then, at night he gets up every 2-3 hours to run his engine
> for a bit. I impagine that once he gets to a city, getting
> his heater fixed will be a priority.
>
> It's -45 in Fairbanks as I post this. The Yukon Quest
> starts this weekend, and it ought to be just brutal.
> --
> Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis - shore.RemoveThis@panix.com
>
> Prouder than ever to be a member of the reality-based community


man. that's nasty.. hubby was looking at the forecast for the Anchorage area
next week, and said it's "supposed" to be warming up a bit.. hopefully some
of that will head up that way, too... (course hubby looks at it and
says.."so this, of course, means I'll be headed back up to the slope next
week and won't get to enjoy any of it..." up there, they just leave the
trucks running all the time....)
hopefully your friend can get his engine fixed quickly (and the cord
replaced and re-routed so the dogs can't chew them... hehe..) i need to get
a block heater on my truck.. when we replaced my station wago after the
accident, we didn't realize right off that the trail blaizer we bought
didn't have one.. and haven't really needed one til this past week when it
was 20 below most mornings.. we've borrowed a small one from one of the
neighbors but goitta get a good one wired in for next winter.

Davina
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 5:15 pm
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In article <13qmsh0airhbebc DeleteThis @corp.supernews.com>,
Davina Stuart <327cat DeleteThis @matonline.net> wrote:
>man. that's nasty..

From a Fairbanks webcam this morning - check out the
temperature: http://www.employees.org/~shore/fairbanks.tiff
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