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DaveR

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 9:11 pm
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I believe my 18 lb. dog ingested 200mg ibuprofen 6 days ago.

Three days ago she started vomiting. The vet gave her ranitidine
(Zantac) plus another drug to coat the stomach lining, gave her IV
fluids, and kept her off food and water.

She continued to vomit occasionally, most recently this morning. The
vet gave her more IV fluids and drugs. A barium X-Ray showed severe
thickening of the stomach wall, which the vet said was consistent with
inflammation from the ibuprofen. Blood tests do not indicate major
bleeding, liver or kidney problems.

It is now three days after her initial symptoms and she does not
appear to be getting better. She seems nauseus, depressed and
listless. I trust my vet but I'm wondering if it's time to seek out
more specialized treatment such as ultrasound and/or endoscopy.

I don't want to put my dog through invasive procedures or have to
spend time in a hospital if it is unnecessary, but at the same time I
want to make sure she gets the care she needs, and don't want to risk
deterioration of her condition.

Is it reasonable to continue drug therapy and wait it out a few more
days? Or do I risk worsening of her condition that could jeopardize
her life?

Any advice would be appreciated.

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sighthounds & siberians

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 9:49 am
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On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 21:11:52 -0500, DaveR
<NOSPAM_drubin.DeleteThis@NOSPAM_i-2000.com> wrote:

>I believe my 18 lb. dog ingested 200mg ibuprofen 6 days ago.
>
>Three days ago she started vomiting. The vet gave her ranitidine
>(Zantac) plus another drug to coat the stomach lining, gave her IV
>fluids, and kept her off food and water.
>
>She continued to vomit occasionally, most recently this morning. The
>vet gave her more IV fluids and drugs. A barium X-Ray showed severe
>thickening of the stomach wall, which the vet said was consistent with
>inflammation from the ibuprofen. Blood tests do not indicate major
>bleeding, liver or kidney problems.
>
>It is now three days after her initial symptoms and she does not
>appear to be getting better. She seems nauseus, depressed and
>listless. I trust my vet but I'm wondering if it's time to seek out
>more specialized treatment such as ultrasound and/or endoscopy.
>
>I don't want to put my dog through invasive procedures or have to
>spend time in a hospital if it is unnecessary, but at the same time I
>want to make sure she gets the care she needs, and don't want to risk
>deterioration of her condition.
>
>Is it reasonable to continue drug therapy and wait it out a few more
>days? Or do I risk worsening of her condition that could jeopardize
>her life?
>
>Any advice would be appreciated.

One of my dogs ate ibuprofen several years ago, and the treatment was
as you describe, except that they also pumped his stomach (I
discovered what he'd eaten immediately and took him right to the vet).
I don't think that ultrasound or endoscopy would be helpful in this
case. You said she ate the ibuprofen 6 days ago and showed symptoms 3
days ago. What happened in the 3 days between when she ate the pill
and started vomiting? If she didn't receive treatment right away, the
likelihood of damage to her stomach and kidneys is higher and her
recovery is likely to be more prolonged.

Mustang Sally

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DaveR

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 11:44 am
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On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 09:49:15 -0500, sighthounds & siberians
<x.RemoveThis@ncweb.com> wrote:


>One of my dogs ate ibuprofen several years ago, and the treatment was
>as you describe, except that they also pumped his stomach (I
>discovered what he'd eaten immediately and took him right to the vet).
>I don't think that ultrasound or endoscopy would be helpful in this
>case. You said she ate the ibuprofen 6 days ago and showed symptoms 3
>days ago. What happened in the 3 days between when she ate the pill
>and started vomiting? If she didn't receive treatment right away, the
>likelihood of damage to her stomach and kidneys is higher and her
>recovery is likely to be more prolonged.

In those three days she seemed perfectly normal. There were no
symptoms at all and her appetite was fine.

I'm a bit concerned that maybe it's not just the iboprofen, that she
ate something else that caused distress. Or, that she ingested
something that normally would pass through but caused a problem
because her stomach was weakened by the ibuprofen. But the X-Ray
didn't show any foreign objects, just severe inflammation of the
stomach wall.

Since the blood tests show no kidney or liver damage, and her white
blood cell count is not rising, I'm inclined to just give her time to
heal and not put her through invasive tests or a hospital stay.
Nevertheless it is difficult to see her this way and be helpless to do
anything for her...

Thanks very much for your reply.
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DaveR

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 1:51 pm
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On 26 Jan 2006 10:35:30 -0800,
AnimalBehaviorForensicSciencesResearchLaboratory DeleteThis @HushMail.Com wrote:

>Was your dog SICK, daver? HOWE COME would you be givin him medications?

He accidentally took the ibuprofen.

>It's HUGELY unlikely a single dose of 200mg will HURT your doggy.

Really? Toxicity can occur at 25mg/kg. That's what she ate.

>According to published data below, there's more that should be done
>for toxic reactions to ibuprofen, such as charcoal etc.

Agreed but unfortunately this needed to be done as soon as she
ingested it, which I now regret.

>Good. Are you certain she only had WON tablet?

I can't be absolutely certain but I'm pretty sure. I believe the other
tablet I had in my pocket is accounted for.

>Then HOWE COME did you GIVE her ibuprofen

I wouldn't give my dog ibuprofen on purpose. It was an accident.

>and she snatched it up an ran off with it despite you screamin "NO!"
>an tryin to get it back JUST LIKE HOWE that little dog

Yada yada yada ... yeah we know I'm a terrible dog owner and don't
train her well. That's besides the point right now.

>Your dog's condition likely has NUTHIN to do with the single dose of
>ibuprofen.

Yeah, says you. My dog has not had anywhere close to these symptoms
before. Go ahead and blame it on "MIShandling" or all your other
cockeyed theories, whizz. My dog is ill and I'm trying to help her.
But why should you care.
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 2:29 pm
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In article <BhjZQ5BTA9evx3SfhiFHUuUprzyD RemoveThis @4ax.com>,
DaveR <NOSPAM_drubin RemoveThis @NOSPAM_i-2000.com> wrote:
>Really? Toxicity can occur at 25mg/kg. That's what she ate.

Jerry routinely gives dangerously incorrect veterinary
advice.
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Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis - shore RemoveThis @panix.com

He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that.
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John Wesley

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2006 3:38 am
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In article <BhjZQ5BTA9evx3SfhiFHUuUprzyD RemoveThis @4ax.com>,
NOSPAM_drubin RemoveThis @NOSPAM_i-2000.com says...
> On 26 Jan 2006 10:35:30 -0800,
>


DaveR,

I hope your dog gets better real soon. I have no good advice on that
note. However, If I were you I'd filter Jerry and all his multiple
personalities. He has nothing to say that is worth reading. It will
make this a much nicer place.

jw

>
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