Dog Food

I think humans would also have trouble surviving on a vegetarian diet in the
wild....
could you honestly wait for a cabbage to grow?!

My dog loves vegetables. If you can formulate a diet whereby the dog still
gets the necessary nutrients, then you could. Or, you could simply
incorporate more vegetables into your dogs diet now.

Mine loves rice, carrots, broccoli, potatoes, peas, mango, pineapple.

He's actually quite a fussy eater too.
I wouldn't personally restrict my dog to any one thing. I think balance is
the key in all things in life.



"Fixer" <steve.h111111111111111 DeleteThis @ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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> what are peoples opinions on feeding Dogs in general on vegitarian food?
> Have just been on the PETA web site and they are pushing the move to
> veggie food for dogs, which anhyhting to stop animal testing i whole
> heartedly support, BUT the part I have problems with is that dogs are
> scavengers and meat eaters and in the wild would eat carrion or kill to
> survive, they certainly wouldn't look to be eating veggies by choice but
> would eat anything to survive if nessesary. So now I'm totally confused
>
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"CuddleFluff" <fake DeleteThis @address.com> ha scritto
>I think humans would also have trouble surviving on a vegetarian diet in
>the wild....
> could you honestly wait for a cabbage to grow?!

yes i could. darren, my primary work is planning, above all for people who
cant...
ciao, a.
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i give cheap dry dogfood twice a day
and a walk everyday - during the free roaming part of the walk the lab
always finds what it needs more (and yes, all vaccinations and worm tablets
kept up to date)
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do you have proof of what you are accusing them of?
"Amy Dahl" <amy.TakeThisOut@oakhillkennel.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> Fixer wrote:
>
> > what are peoples opinions on feeding Dogs in general on vegitarian food?
> > Have just been on the PETA web site and they are pushing the move to
veggie
> > food for dogs, which anhyhting to stop animal testing i whole heartedly
> > support, BUT the part I have problems with is that dogs are scavengers
and
> > meat eaters and in the wild would eat carrion or kill to survive, they
> > certainly wouldn't look to be eating veggies by choice but would eat
> > anything to survive if nessesary. So now I'm totally confused
>
> Are you a vegetarian?
>
> I am pretty sure dogs are less suited to maintain health on a
> vegetarian diet than we are. IMO it comes down to whether one's
> commitment to vegetarian principles outranks one's concern for
> a pet's health and well-being.
>
> Donald R. Strombeck, in his book "Home-Prepared Dog and Cat Diets"
> does give some diets utilizing, IIRC, lentils and/or tofu as primary
> protein sources. He explains some of the pros and cons.
>
> I strongly recommend against trusting PeTA. They are a dishonest outfit,
> taking people's money on the pretext of helping animals, then contributing
> it to domestic terrorists; taking animals from shelters with the promise
> of finding them homes, killing them and dumping the carcasses in
> dumpsters. They are also part of the radical "animal rights" movement
> that wants to get rid of, first, all deliberate breeding of dogs (read:
no
> more
> Labradors) and then, all domestic animals whatsoever.
>
> Amy DAhl
>
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My dogs eat meat (I don't). I have friends though that had their dog on a
vegetarian diet for about 20 years until it died of old age. It was very
healthy. If you actually research it and do it properly then it can be done.
"Fixer" <steve.h111111111111111 DeleteThis @ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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> what are peoples opinions on feeding Dogs in general on vegitarian food?
> Have just been on the PETA web site and they are pushing the move to
veggie
> food for dogs, which anhyhting to stop animal testing i whole heartedly
> support, BUT the part I have problems with is that dogs are scavengers and
> meat eaters and in the wild would eat carrion or kill to survive, they
> certainly wouldn't look to be eating veggies by choice but would eat
> anything to survive if nessesary. So now I'm totally confused
>
>
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I think I'd have to pay you with cabbages to plan for a chinese takeaway for
me =)


"andrea palazzi" <andrea.palazzi.RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> "CuddleFluff" <fake.RemoveThis@address.com> ha scritto
>>I think humans would also have trouble surviving on a vegetarian diet in
>>the wild....
>> could you honestly wait for a cabbage to grow?!
>
> yes i could. darren, my primary work is planning, above all for people who
> cant...
> ciao, a.
>
>
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"CuddleFluff" <fake DeleteThis @address.com> ha scritto
>I think I'd have to pay you with cabbages to plan for a chinese takeaway
>for me =)

they're green but arent legal tender, i fear.
so, starve with care, dear :>

ciao, a.

btw, until chinese eat dogs, i wont eat chinese (nor i did the chinese
whatever age, no matter what our former premier said to the world :)
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I'm not doubting whether it can be done i know it can BUT i am concerned
with the ethics of forceing a vegitarians diet onto animals in out care that
should eat meat and dont because their owners are veggies.

I am not a veggie but my partner is :)
"Nathan & Jenn" <mulli DeleteThis @aapt.net.au> wrote in message
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> My dogs eat meat (I don't). I have friends though that had their dog on a
> vegetarian diet for about 20 years until it died of old age. It was very
> healthy. If you actually research it and do it properly then it can be
> done.
> "Fixer" <steve.h111111111111111 DeleteThis @ntlworld.com> wrote in message
> news:0Uorg.73009$lQ.7453@newsfe3-gui.ntli.net...
>> what are peoples opinions on feeding Dogs in general on vegitarian food?
>> Have just been on the PETA web site and they are pushing the move to
> veggie
>> food for dogs, which anhyhting to stop animal testing i whole heartedly
>> support, BUT the part I have problems with is that dogs are scavengers
>> and
>> meat eaters and in the wild would eat carrion or kill to survive, they
>> certainly wouldn't look to be eating veggies by choice but would eat
>> anything to survive if nessesary. So now I'm totally confused
>>
>>
>
>
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Dogs are carnivores. Do not listen to any of the wack job quacks that tell
you that a vegetarian diet for a canine is healthy.



"Fixer" <steve.h111111111111111.TakeThisOut@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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> what are peoples opinions on feeding Dogs in general on vegitarian food?
> Have just been on the PETA web site and they are pushing the move to
> veggie food for dogs, which anhyhting to stop animal testing i whole
> heartedly support, BUT the part I have problems with is that dogs are
> scavengers and meat eaters and in the wild would eat carrion or kill to
> survive, they certainly wouldn't look to be eating veggies by choice but
> would eat anything to survive if nessesary. So now I'm totally confused
>
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agree, but dogs are omnivore, like humans.
ciao, a.

"Latosha Washington"
> Dogs are carnivores. Do not listen to any of the wack job quacks that tell
> you that a vegetarian diet for a canine is healthy.
>
>
>
> "Fixer">> what are peoples opinions on feeding Dogs in general on
> vegitarian food?
>> Have just been on the PETA web site and they are pushing the move to
>> veggie food for dogs, which anhyhting to stop animal testing i whole
>> heartedly support, BUT the part I have problems with is that dogs are
>> scavengers and meat eaters and in the wild would eat carrion or kill to
>> survive, they certainly wouldn't look to be eating veggies by choice but
>> would eat anything to survive if nessesary. So now I'm totally confused
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On Sun, 9 Jul 2006 11:07:00 +1000, in message
<e8pkrf$28c$1@news-02.connect.com.au>, "Nathan & Jenn" <mulli.TakeThisOut@aapt.net.au>
scribed:

>do you have proof of what you are accusing them of?

Top-posters are the scum of the earth.
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"Fixer" <steve.h111111111111111.DeleteThis@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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> what are peoples opinions on feeding Dogs in general on vegitarian food?
> Have just been on the PETA web site and they are pushing the move to
> veggie food for dogs, which anhyhting to stop animal testing i whole
> heartedly support, BUT the part I have problems with is that dogs are
> scavengers and meat eaters and in the wild would eat carrion or kill to
> survive, they certainly wouldn't look to be eating veggies by choice but
> would eat anything to survive if nessesary. So now I'm totally confused


My opinion... Well I wouldn't try it. Why because,

a) I don't know enough about doggy nutrition to trust myself to properly
prepare a diet for them
b) I don't trust other people who are preparing a veggie diet for them to
have the knowledge to do it to my satisfaction either.
c) From an ethical standpoint, I'm not sure they wouldn't find a way to get
meat anyways (mmmmm mice)
d) I'm a meat eater. I love meat. Thick juicy steaks. Animals are tasty.

I'm curious, did they say anything about veggitarian kitty food? That could
be a good barometer of how smart these people are. Cats are obligate
carnivores (unless you're feeding some transgenic veggies that I haven't
heard about yet).

Dale
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"Fixer" <steve.h111111111111111 DeleteThis @ntlworld.com> didn't ask about the
significance of the number 42 in the Hitchhikers' Guide to the
Galaxy series, but DID present the following for evaluation in
alt.pets.dogs.labrador:


> I'm not doubting whether it can be done i know it can BUT i am
> concerned with the ethics of forceing a vegitarians diet onto
> animals in out care that should eat meat and dont because their
> owners are veggies.

The largest component in most commercial dog foods isn't meat. It's
vegetable matter. Most commercial dog foods use corn as the base --
interestingly, three out of the last four dogs a member of my family
has owned has proven to be allergic to corn. If you feed your dog
kibble, you're probably feeding him more bones and grains than you
are meat.

In the wild, dogs scavenge and eat vegetable matter as readily as
rodents, birds, etc.

But that's because of availability and ease, not because of some
nutritional imperative.

IF a Vegan or vegetarian-based dog food is as nutritionally balanced
as a good quality meat-based dog food, then what does it matter?

Vegetarians and Vegans can and do live quite healthily, provided the
get the right balance, and, of course, supplement their diets with
iron.

I am not a vegetarian. I am not a Vegan. My dogs are not eating
Vegan food, although the rescue group from which I got them was run
by a Vegan who was feeding them Vegan food. But I incorporate
vegetarian and Vegan meal plans into my own diet, simply because
vegetable-based foods tend to be lower in the "bad" fats and higher
in the "good" fats. So I know how to use soy, legumes, quinoa, whole
grains, and vegetables to create a nutritionally balanced meal.

If you pay attention to the nutrition, you _can_ live whatever
lifestyle you think is best, and live well. That includes your pets.

I'm off to grill my steak, now, and feed my pups lamb and rice kibble
(no corn). Ta!

--
nancy

A boss is a personal dictator appointed to those of us fortunate
enough to live in free societies. (from the Cynic's Dictionary)
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