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Since: Jun 28, 2003 Posts: 33
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2003 6:54 pm
Post subject: Diet Archived from groups: rec>pets>dogs>health (more info?)
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Can someone give me some hints on dieting my dog? Doug is a Border Collie
with Hip Dysplaysia, he is slightly over weight, if it wasn't for his hip
problem I wouldn't worry so much about the extra pounds as he is only
slightly overweight. Doug loves his food and so I want to cut down on the
calories but still give him enough "bulk" food so he doesn't feel hungry.
At the moment he has 1 large mug of dog biscuit / kibble and 1/2 a 400g can
of meat. During the course of the day he has a few dog treats / biscuits. I
don't want him to lose a great deal of weight and not necessarily quickly, I
would guess he needs to lose 5-6kg.
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Since: Aug 20, 2003 Posts: 128
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2003 7:41 pm
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Mark/Shell said in rec.pets.dogs.health:
> Can someone give me some hints on dieting my dog? Doug is a
> Border Collie with Hip Dysplaysia, he is slightly over
> weight, if it wasn't for his hip problem I wouldn't worry
> so much about the extra pounds as he is only slightly
> overweight. Doug loves his food and so I want to cut down
> on the calories but still give him enough "bulk" food so he
> doesn't feel hungry. At the moment he has 1 large mug of
> dog biscuit / kibble and 1/2 a 400g can of meat. During the
> course of the day he has a few dog treats / biscuits. I
> don't want him to lose a great deal of weight and not
> necessarily quickly, I would guess he needs to lose 5-6kg.
You don't mention the size of your BC (they can easily range
from 35 to 60 pounds, 15 to 25 kg or so). I'll assume that Doug
is towards the larger end of 25 kilograms maximum, so that 5 or
6 kilograms is 20% of the proper body weight - much more than
slightly overweight.
For bulk, try adding pumpkin to his food (fresh cooked or
canned), or another low sugar and low sodium vegetable like
green beans. Hydrate his kibble so he feels fuller right after
he eats. Cut down on the size of treats - dogs are happy just
getting the treat, it can be the size of a grain of rice as long
as it's stinky.
Exercise more - since Doug has hip problems, swimming would be
the best exercise. Good luck.
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--Matt. Rocky's a Dog. >> Stay informed about: Diet |
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Since: Aug 08, 2003 Posts: 669
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2003 1:59 pm
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Mark/Shell wrote:
> Can someone give me some hints on dieting my dog? Doug is a Border Collie
> with Hip Dysplaysia, he is slightly over weight, if it wasn't for his hip
> problem I wouldn't worry so much about the extra pounds as he is only
> slightly overweight.
Shell, other than what has been suggested, if Doug would eat it, you can
use frozen veggies as treats. I remember someone saying that their dog
loved frozen peas, and that's what was used as treats. Heck, some dogs
consider ice cubes to be treats, and small pieces here and there would
be a calorie free snack if Doug is into it. You can also use his dog
food as a treat, and cut back on the amount you feed him.
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Since: Aug 16, 2003 Posts: 8
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2003 6:25 pm
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NUTRO with glucosamine.
"Mark/Shell" <cctaxis RemoveThis @btconnect.com> wrote in message
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> Can someone give me some hints on dieting my dog? Doug is a Border Collie
> with Hip Dysplaysia, he is slightly over weight, if it wasn't for his hip
> problem I wouldn't worry so much about the extra pounds as he is only
> slightly overweight. Doug loves his food and so I want to cut down on the
> calories but still give him enough "bulk" food so he doesn't feel hungry.
> At the moment he has 1 large mug of dog biscuit / kibble and 1/2 a 400g
can
> of meat. During the course of the day he has a few dog treats / biscuits.
I
> don't want him to lose a great deal of weight and not necessarily quickly,
I
> would guess he needs to lose 5-6kg.
>
> Shell
>
> >> Stay informed about: Diet |
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Since: Jun 28, 2003 Posts: 33
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2003 6:34 pm
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What worries me the most is him feeling hungry. Apparently what I'm feeding
him is fine but it looks so little. That's why I'm looking for low calorie
bulking out alternatives.
I like the ideas Suja, to be honest Doug is such a pig anything even
remotely edible is a treat...lol.
Shell
"Suja" <spanaval.TakeThisOut@scs.gmu.edu> wrote in message
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> Mark/Shell wrote:
>
> > Can someone give me some hints on dieting my dog? Doug is a Border
Collie
> > with Hip Dysplaysia, he is slightly over weight, if it wasn't for his
hip
> > problem I wouldn't worry so much about the extra pounds as he is only
> > slightly overweight.
>
> Shell, other than what has been suggested, if Doug would eat it, you can
> use frozen veggies as treats. I remember someone saying that their dog
> loved frozen peas, and that's what was used as treats. Heck, some dogs
> consider ice cubes to be treats, and small pieces here and there would
> be a calorie free snack if Doug is into it. You can also use his dog
> food as a treat, and cut back on the amount you feed him.
>
> Suja
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Since: Aug 08, 2003 Posts: 669
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2003 6:34 pm
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Mark/Shell wrote:
> What worries me the most is him feeling hungry. Apparently what I'm feeding
> him is fine but it looks so little. That's why I'm looking for low calorie
> bulking out alternatives.
I believe that the better alternative is to feed a good, high quality,
highly digestible food, even if it means that you'll be feeding less of
it. When we first got Khan, he was eating 4 cups of food per day, plus
treats. When he started to gain weight last summer, I cut back on his
food, and started adding cooked veggies to it in order to make sure that
he felt full. Slowly cut out the veggies, and now, he eats somewhere
between 2 - 2 2/3rds cups of dog food (plus treats) per day, and doesn't
seem to miss the food he's not getting.
DH always tells me that we don't feed him enough, BTW, and will sneak
him extra food if he thinks he can get away with it. I told him that we
would all be healthier if someone only gave us exactly as much food as
was required to keep us at a good healthy weight, and not an ounce more.
Somehow, he has no problems with that concept.
> I like the ideas Suja, to be honest Doug is such a pig anything even
> remotely edible is a treat...lol.
Well, I do know someone who uses popcorn (no salt or oil), and cheerios
as treats. Maybe if you gave him a variety, you won't feel guilty, and
he'll be happy as well.
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Since: Jun 28, 2003 Posts: 33
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2003 10:28 pm
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"Suja" <spanaval.TakeThisOut@scs.gmu.edu> wrote in message
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> Mark/Shell wrote:
> DH always tells me that we don't feed him enough, BTW, and will sneak
> him extra food if he thinks he can get away with it. I told him that we
> would all be healthier if someone only gave us exactly as much food as
> was required to keep us at a good healthy weight, and not an ounce more.
> Somehow, he has no problems with that concept.
I assume DH is your other half? My other half has the same problem to the
point that I now have to make sure I beat him to the kitchen to feed the
dogs as he almost gives them double what I do! He will slip Doug half a
sandwich, tonight it was some pizza! It's getting to an argument as in my
mind this is bordering on life threatening, ok perhaps I'm exaggerating but
for dougs sake his weight has to be monitored closely. I've told Mark (my
other half) that extra weight will mean pain for Doug as his hips will have
to cope with it. Why can't an intelligent man understand this??? Anyway we
are off to the vets tomorrow morning so I will ask her to spell it out to
Mark, maybe he will listen???
Shell
I think the vet will recommend another course of Rimidyl but I'm going to
ask for some alternatives. >> Stay informed about: Diet |
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Since: Aug 11, 2004 Posts: 110
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2003 12:41 am
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>From: "JanTGH" Jan DeleteThis @greenpeace.org
>Date: 9/2/03 11:25 AM Pacific Daylight Time
>Message-id: <Kg55b.123324$0v4.8933689@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>
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>NUTRO with glucosamine.
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....is a horrible choice in food. They are extremely high in phosphorus among
other things. For the record, it is illegal to use theraputic levels of
chrondroprotectives in dog food. The example above is marketing only. >> Stay informed about: Diet |
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Since: Aug 29, 2003 Posts: 13
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2003 9:04 am
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Just continue with the regular food or kibbles. You already give him enough
treats so the kibbles you provide will be fine. Just reduce the amount
everyday by a little bit and he will be fine.
"GAUBSTER2" <gaubster2.DeleteThis@aol.com> wrote in message
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> >From: "JanTGH" Jan.DeleteThis@greenpeace.org
> >Date: 9/2/03 11:25 AM Pacific Daylight Time
> >Message-id: <Kg55b.123324$0v4.8933689@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>
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> >NUTRO with glucosamine.
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> ...is a horrible choice in food. They are extremely high in phosphorus
among
> other things. For the record, it is illegal to use theraputic levels of
> chrondroprotectives in dog food. The example above is marketing only. >> Stay informed about: Diet |
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Since: Jun 28, 2003 Posts: 33
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2003 4:31 pm
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I took Doug to the vets today and he has lost some weight, 2 weeks ago he
was 27.1kg now he's weighing in at 25.7kg so I'm winning with watching what
he eats and some gentle exercise.
My vets wanted to prescribe him Rymadyl again but I told them I wasn't keen
so he's on a long course of "glucosamine (if I've spelt it right)" tablets.
Shell
" Tuuk" <bangkokbob5001 RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Just continue with the regular food or kibbles. You already give him
enough
> treats so the kibbles you provide will be fine. Just reduce the amount
> everyday by a little bit and he will be fine.
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> "GAUBSTER2" <gaubster2 RemoveThis @aol.com> wrote in message
> news:20030902204155.18090.00000384@mb-m06.aol.com...
> > >From: "JanTGH" Jan RemoveThis @greenpeace.org
> > >Date: 9/2/03 11:25 AM Pacific Daylight Time
> > >Message-id:
<Kg55b.123324$0v4.8933689@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>
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> > >NUTRO with glucosamine.
> > >
> >
> > ...is a horrible choice in food. They are extremely high in phosphorus
> among
> > other things. For the record, it is illegal to use theraputic levels of
> > chrondroprotectives in dog food. The example above is marketing only.
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