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Kevin E. Venable

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2003 11:30 pm
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I've just set up a new 220. With all the stuff I ordered, I also got a
Vortex XL filter to keep this tank looking it's best. I'm running 2 mag 350
pro's both set up last night...I added some stress zyme along with Start
right..to help the cycling along...We've put in "Chubby" a huge goldfish
that has help broken in our last 2 tanks. If I was to go ahead and set up
the Diatom, would it hinder the cycling process?? Thanks>>Kev

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Kev

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2003 7:32 pm
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Anyone?
"Kevin E. Venable" <a3kgt.TakeThisOut@carolina.rr.com> wrote in message
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> I've just set up a new 220. With all the stuff I ordered, I also got a
> Vortex XL filter to keep this tank looking it's best. I'm running 2 mag
350
> pro's both set up last night...I added some stress zyme along with Start
> right..to help the cycling along...We've put in "Chubby" a huge goldfish
> that has help broken in our last 2 tanks. If I was to go ahead and set up
> the Diatom, would it hinder the cycling process?? Thanks>>Kev
>
>

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coelacanth

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2003 8:21 pm
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I've used diatom filters in the past to 'polish' the
water, only running it when needed for an hour or
two when the water got pea-soupy or cloudy.
Since this tank is brand new, I can't understand
why you'd be running it now.

Or do other people run their diatom filters constantly?
I haven't used one in years...

-coelacanth

"Kev" <a3kgt DeleteThis @carolina.rr.com> wrote in message
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> Anyone?
> "Kevin E. Venable" <a3kgt DeleteThis @carolina.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:6EhWa.367488$jp.10396869@twister.southeast.rr.com...
> > I've just set up a new 220. With all the stuff I ordered, I also got a
> > Vortex XL filter to keep this tank looking it's best. I'm running 2 mag
> 350
> > pro's both set up last night...I added some stress zyme along with Start
> > right..to help the cycling along...We've put in "Chubby" a huge goldfish
> > that has help broken in our last 2 tanks. If I was to go ahead and set up
> > the Diatom, would it hinder the cycling process?? Thanks>>Kev
> >
> >
>
>
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Jim Brown

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2003 8:21 pm
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If I recall correctly, older models were designed for intermittent use, and
were not to run all the time. I believe the newer models are able to go
24/7 but why would one want to?

Jim

coelacanth <coelacanth RemoveThis @coelacanth.net> wrote in message
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> I've used diatom filters in the past to 'polish' the
> water, only running it when needed for an hour or
> two when the water got pea-soupy or cloudy.
> Since this tank is brand new, I can't understand
> why you'd be running it now.
>
> Or do other people run their diatom filters constantly?
> I haven't used one in years...
>
> -coelacanth
>
> "Kev" <a3kgt RemoveThis @carolina.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:nfzWa.317860$_w.12803758@twister.southeast.rr.com...
> > Anyone?
> > "Kevin E. Venable" <a3kgt RemoveThis @carolina.rr.com> wrote in message
> > news:6EhWa.367488$jp.10396869@twister.southeast.rr.com...
> > > I've just set up a new 220. With all the stuff I ordered, I also got a
> > > Vortex XL filter to keep this tank looking it's best. I'm running 2
mag
> > 350
> > > pro's both set up last night...I added some stress zyme along with
Start
> > > right..to help the cycling along...We've put in "Chubby" a huge
goldfish
> > > that has help broken in our last 2 tanks. If I was to go ahead and set
up
> > > the Diatom, would it hinder the cycling process?? Thanks>>Kev
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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jduprie

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2003 4:01 pm
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the newer ones *can* run 24/7, but (as others have said), there really isn't
a reason to. Running it shouldn't make any difference to getting your new
tank cycled. It *might* help a tiny bit (by adding more surface for stuff to
colonize), but I think it wouldn't be significant.

A quick note on the XL: it will probably leak around the seal. A bunch of
people I've spoken to have this problem, and nobody seems ot have found a
good solution. If it does, the method people seem to prefer is to stick teh
whole thing ina bucket, and fill the bucket up with water. the water level
has to be above the top of the jar, but below the motor. If you just cover
the top of the lid, it works great. The unit still leaks, but all it really
does is cycle a little bit of the water int he bucket, so it doesn't matter.
The leak typically shows itself as a very slow drip, and/or a slow
accumulation of air inside the jar...

To keep from clouding the tank:
Get everything set up, and put the in and out tubes in a small bucket
(or large cup) inside the tank, filled with water, but witht he top of the
cup above the water level of the tank. Let the filter run in the cup, and
when the cup is clear, simply lower the cup into the tank. The filter is now
running in the tank, and there's no cloudiness.
If this is too much hassle (as it often is), simply let the water cloud
up. It doesn't hurt anything (except maybe decapods - see below), and the
filter will take all the stuff out anyway.
If you're keeping invertebrates, especially ones with shells (like crabs or
crawfish) thediatome powder may cause some problems. A common use for
diatome powder (outside of aquaria) is for insect control (ants, roaches,
etc). It accumulates in their joints and breathing tubes. In the joints, it
acts like an abrasive, and grinds them away. In the breathing tubes, it just
clogs them up and they suffocate. I don't know if this will also happen in
aquaria (I don't think the gills would be aproblem, but hte joints
might)......

Good luck
--JD


"Kev" <a3kgt DeleteThis @carolina.rr.com> wrote in message
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> Anyone?
> "Kevin E. Venable" <a3kgt DeleteThis @carolina.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:6EhWa.367488$jp.10396869@twister.southeast.rr.com...
> > I've just set up a new 220. With all the stuff I ordered, I also got a
> > Vortex XL filter to keep this tank looking it's best. I'm running 2 mag
> 350
> > pro's both set up last night...I added some stress zyme along with
Start
> > right..to help the cycling along...We've put in "Chubby" a huge goldfish
> > that has help broken in our last 2 tanks. If I was to go ahead and set
up
> > the Diatom, would it hinder the cycling process?? Thanks>>Kev
> >
> >
>
>
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