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Since: Jun 30, 2003 Posts: 148
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2003 3:45 pm
Post subject: Derek Nash - One Simple Question Archived from groups: alt>animals>ethics>vegetarian, others (more info?)
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Since: Jul 10, 2003 Posts: 869
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2003 3:54 pm
Post subject: Re: Dreck Nash - One Simple Question [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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Zakhar wrote:
> Why would you not allow the killing of a flea to save all humanity, but
> would kill the same flea to save your dog from suffering?
Dreck is not interested in preventing his dog from
suffering. Dreck broke a broom handle over the back of
his dog when he beat the dog with it. >> Stay informed about: Derek Nash - One Simple Question |
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Since: Oct 04, 2003 Posts: 1
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2003 4:32 pm
Post subject: Re: Derek Nash - One Simple Question [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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thingummy wrote:
> "Zakhar" <nospam.TakeThisOut@donotuse123.com> wrote in message news:543aa9c0846fd2fbdb0a0daa48ef2911@news.teranews.com...
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>>Why would you not allow the killing of a flea to save all humanity, but
>>would kill the same flea to save your dog from suffering?
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>
> I've answered this question half a dozen times
> with an emphatic NO.
That isn't a reasonable answer. The question is a
"why" question, and "no" is not a reasonable answer to
a "why" question.
You WOULD kill the flea on your dog, presumably,
although only because you want to have sole torture
rights on your dog.
Why did you break a broom handle over your dog's back,
Dreck, you shitbag? That's another "why" question,
Dreckbag; don't answer "no"; that's an unsuitable answer. >> Stay informed about: Derek Nash - One Simple Question |
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Since: Jun 27, 2003 Posts: 131
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2003 5:02 pm
Post subject: Re: Dreck Nash - One Simple Question [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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"Jonathan Ball" <jonball.RemoveThis@whitehouse.not> wrote in message
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> Zakhar wrote:
> > Why would you not allow the killing of a flea to save all humanity, but
> > would kill the same flea to save your dog from suffering?
>
> Dreck is not interested in preventing his dog from
> suffering. Dreck broke a broom handle over the back of
> his dog when he beat the dog with it.
The question was not addressed to you ~~jonnie~~, for once in your life,
keep your nose out.
> >> Stay informed about: Derek Nash - One Simple Question |
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Since: Sep 15, 2003 Posts: 11
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2003 5:02 pm
Post subject: Re: Dreck Nash - One Simple Question [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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Ray wrote:
> "Jonathan Ball" <jonball.DeleteThis@whitehouse.not> wrote in message
> news:Z2Cfb.1315$Qy2.190@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net...
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>>Zakhar wrote:
>>
>>>Why would you not allow the killing of a flea to save all humanity, but
>>>would kill the same flea to save your dog from suffering?
>>
>>Dreck is not interested in preventing his dog from
>>suffering. Dreck broke a broom handle over the back of
>>his dog when he beat the dog with it.
>
>
> The question was not addressed to you ~~jonnie~~, for once in your life,
> keep your nose out.
Fuck off, cunt. I'll comment if I wish. I don't take
orders from you, shitbag. Got it? Go stick a broken
bottle up your ass. >> Stay informed about: Derek Nash - One Simple Question |
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Since: Jun 30, 2003 Posts: 148
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2003 5:02 pm
Post subject: Re: Dreck Nash - One Simple Question [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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<fred.DeleteThis@just.fried> wrote in message
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> Ray wrote:
>
> > "Jonathan Ball" <jonball.DeleteThis@whitehouse.not> wrote in message
> > news:Z2Cfb.1315$Qy2.190@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> >
> >>Zakhar wrote:
> >>
> >>>Why would you not allow the killing of a flea to save all humanity, but
> >>>would kill the same flea to save your dog from suffering?
> >>
> >>Dreck is not interested in preventing his dog from
> >>suffering. Dreck broke a broom handle over the back of
> >>his dog when he beat the dog with it.
> >
> >
> > The question was not addressed to you ~~jonnie~~, for once in your life,
> > keep your nose out.
>
> Fuck off, cunt. I'll comment if I wish. I don't take
> orders from you, shitbag.
Ohh, nasty. You'll have a heamorrage.
>Got it? Go stick a broken
> bottle up your ass.
Why would Ray want to stick a broken bottle up a hoofed mammal of the genus
Equus?
I don't think he even owns an ass.
> >> Stay informed about: Derek Nash - One Simple Question |
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Since: Sep 15, 2003 Posts: 11
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2003 5:02 pm
Post subject: Re: Dreck Nash - One Simple Question [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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Zakhar wrote:
> <fred DeleteThis @just.fried> wrote in message
> news:jgCfb.1330$Qy2.1245@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net...
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>>Ray wrote:
>>
>>
>>>"Jonathan Ball" <jonball DeleteThis @whitehouse.not> wrote in message
>>>news:Z2Cfb.1315$Qy2.190@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>>>
>>>
>>>>Zakhar wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Why would you not allow the killing of a flea to save all humanity, but
>>>>>would kill the same flea to save your dog from suffering?
>>>>
>>>>Dreck is not interested in preventing his dog from
>>>>suffering. Dreck broke a broom handle over the back of
>>>>his dog when he beat the dog with it.
>>>
>>>
>>>The question was not addressed to you ~~jonnie~~, for once in your life,
>>>keep your nose out.
>>
>>Fuck off, cunt. I'll comment if I wish. I don't take
>>orders from you, shitbag.
>
>
> Ohh, nasty. You'll have a heamorrage.
A what? Hehehe...
>
>
>>Got it? Go stick a broken
>>bottle up your ass.
>
>
> Why would Ray want to stick a broken bottle up his coal-chute?
I don't know; I just imagine he'd like it. >> Stay informed about: Derek Nash - One Simple Question |
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Since: Jun 30, 2003 Posts: 148
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2003 5:02 pm
Post subject: Re: Dreck Nash - One Simple Question [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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<fred.TakeThisOut@just.fried> wrote in message
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> Zakhar wrote:
>
> > <fred.TakeThisOut@just.fried> wrote in message
> > news:jgCfb.1330$Qy2.1245@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> >
> >>Ray wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>"Jonathan Ball" <jonball.TakeThisOut@whitehouse.not> wrote in message
> >>>news:Z2Cfb.1315$Qy2.190@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Zakhar wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>Why would you not allow the killing of a flea to save all humanity,
but
> >>>>>would kill the same flea to save your dog from suffering?
> >>>>
> >>>>Dreck is not interested in preventing his dog from
> >>>>suffering. Dreck broke a broom handle over the back of
> >>>>his dog when he beat the dog with it.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>The question was not addressed to you ~~jonnie~~, for once in your
life,
> >>>keep your nose out.
> >>
> >>Fuck off, cunt. I'll comment if I wish. I don't take
> >>orders from you, shitbag.
> >
> >
> > Ohh, nasty. You'll have a heamorrage.
>
> A what? Hehehe...
I meant haemorrhage, you goofy dwarf.
>
> >
> >
> >>Got it? Go stick a broken
> >>bottle up your ass.
> >
> >
> > Why would Ray want to stick a broken bottle up his coal-chute?
You low life. Changing what people have written, is dishonest and child
like.
>
> I don't know; I just imagine he'd like it.
From your own experience, I guess.
> >> Stay informed about: Derek Nash - One Simple Question |
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Since: Sep 15, 2003 Posts: 11
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2003 5:02 pm
Post subject: Re: Dreck Nash - One Simple Question [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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Zakhar wrote:
> <fred.RemoveThis@just.fried> wrote in message
> news:YnCfb.1337$Qy2.1239@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net...
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>>Zakhar wrote:
>>
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>>><fred.RemoveThis@just.fried> wrote in message
>>>news:jgCfb.1330$Qy2.1245@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>>>
>>>
>>>>Ray wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>"Jonathan Ball" <jonball.RemoveThis@whitehouse.not> wrote in message
>>>>>news:Z2Cfb.1315$Qy2.190@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Zakhar wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Why would you not allow the killing of a flea to save all humanity,
>
> but
>
>>>>>>>would kill the same flea to save your dog from suffering?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Dreck is not interested in preventing his dog from
>>>>>>suffering. Dreck broke a broom handle over the back of
>>>>>>his dog when he beat the dog with it.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>The question was not addressed to you ~~jonnie~~, for once in your
>
> life,
>
>>>>>keep your nose out.
>>>>
>>>>Fuck off, cunt. I'll comment if I wish. I don't take
>>>>orders from you, shitbag.
>>>
>>>
>>>Ohh, nasty. You'll have a heamorrage.
>>
>>A what? Hehehe...
>
>
> I meant haemorrhage
You missed it by miles, shitworm.
>
>>>
>>>>Got it? Go stick a broken
>>>>bottle up your ass.
>>>
>>>
>>>Why would Ray want to stick a broken bottle up his coal-chute?
>
>
> You low life. Changing what people have written, is dishonest and child
> like.
Coming from an unprincipled hypocrite like you, that's
empty.
>
>
>>I don't know; I just imagine he'd like it.
>
>
> From your own experience, I guess.
No, based on Ray Slater being a pouncing homo. >> Stay informed about: Derek Nash - One Simple Question |
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Since: Oct 04, 2003 Posts: 6
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2003 5:29 pm
Post subject: Re: Dreck Nash - One Simple Question [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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"Jonathan Ball" <jonball.DeleteThis@whitehouse.not> wrote in message news:Z2Cfb.1315$Qy2.190@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> Zakhar wrote:
> > Why would you not allow the killing of a flea to save all humanity, but
> > would kill the same flea to save your dog from suffering?
>
> Dreck is not interested in preventing his dog from
> suffering. Dreck broke a broom handle over the back of
> his dog when he beat the dog with it.
>
And your source for that information has admitted
they lied about me, and you are aware of their
admission too.
From: Allison McDowall
To: **my older sister**
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 9:42 AM
Subject: Re: Family man - Derek?
"I can lie about your family if i want, especially after the way you
have behaved towards David even his own mother put the phone
down on him without saying what she was upset about and now
Dave will probably never talk to her again. If she is upset with
him about the news group then that's her problem because Dave
has had nothing to so with that stupid ng for months now."
[end]
From :**my older sister**
To: Allison McDowall
Sent: Date :Fri, 20 Sep 2002 21:21:05 +0100
no need for you to get soooooo upset and excited Alison, its
really not good for you my dear :)))))
You will be so pleased to know its all sorted this end.. and
it wasn't that hard to come clean now was it sweetheart???.....
although maybe next time you might try a little harder to own
up a little sooner????
Now that we know that it was YOU who was the instigator,
the liar, the Shafter MY mother is more than happy ......and
that my dear is all I care about..
Im not sure quite how you are going to achieve leaving the
family when you never belonged in the first place, but like all
the other lies you connived and concocted .. Im sure you will
find a way
[end]
And you already know of this admission, so while I'm
completely vindicated by it, your repetition of her lies
makes you equally as bad a liar as she is, and that your
sources of information are thoroughly untrustworthy. It
suits me just fine, liar Jon. >> Stay informed about: Derek Nash - One Simple Question |
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Since: Jun 30, 2003 Posts: 148
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2003 5:57 pm
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"thingummy" <nospam.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "Zakhar" <nospam.DeleteThis@donotuse123.com> wrote in message
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You have a problem in understanding the question. I'll repeat it
*WHY* would you not allow the killing of a flea to save all humanity, but
would kill the same flea to save your dog from suffering?
WHY Derek WHY? >> Stay informed about: Derek Nash - One Simple Question |
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2003 5:58 pm
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"Zakhar" <nospam.TakeThisOut@donotuse123.com> wrote in message
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> "thingummy" <nospam.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:bln132$e1f7o$1@ID-190488.news.uni-berlin.de...
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> > "Zakhar" <nospam.TakeThisOut@donotuse123.com> wrote in message
> news:64cfafefc3c8117d1c5966d3aac21dd2@news.teranews.com...
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> You have a problem in understanding the question. I'll repeat it
>
> *WHY* would you not allow the killing of a flea to save all humanity, but
> would kill the same flea to save your dog from suffering?
>
> WHY Derek WHY?
You've tried insults, Latin phrases you don't understand, trying to change
the subject and now you're resorting to unethical snipping.
Answer the question Derek. - Your lack of an attempt at answering it
displays that you may have a weakness in your
position that you are afraid of exposing.
I'll start it off for you:
"I would not allow the killing of a flea to save all humanity, but would
kill the same flea to save my dog from suffering because......."
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2003 5:58 pm
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"thingummy" <nospam.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "Zakhar" <nospam.DeleteThis@donotuse123.com> wrote in message
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> > "Zakhar" <nospam.DeleteThis@donotuse123.com> wrote in message
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> > > You have a problem in understanding the question. I'll repeat it
> > >
> > > *WHY* would you not allow the killing of a flea to save all
humanity
>
> I would not kill that flea, even if I thought it would
> save the entire World, for if the entire World's
> existence rested on the life of that flea I would
> have to conclude that the World is too insignificant
> to bother trying to save. That's why.
That's a stupid, circular reply. You don't even know why you wouldn't
kill the flea, do you? >> Stay informed about: Derek Nash - One Simple Question |
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2003 6:15 pm
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"thingummy" <nospam.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "Zakhar" <nospam.TakeThisOut@donotuse123.com> wrote in message
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> > "Zakhar" <nospam.TakeThisOut@donotuse123.com> wrote in message
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> > > You have a problem in understanding the question. I'll repeat it
> > >
> > > *WHY* would you not allow the killing of a flea to save all humanity
>
> I would not kill that flea, even if I thought it would
> save the entire World, for if the entire World's
> existence rested on the life of that flea I would
> have to conclude that the World is too insignificant
> to bother trying to save. That's why.
>
> > , but would kill the same flea to save your dog from suffering?
>
> I wouldn't kill it. I would remove it.
LOL.
Why would you put it Derek? It would stave to death without blood. You
removing it from its host, is as good as death sentence.
Further dodge noted, the question still stands. >> Stay informed about: Derek Nash - One Simple Question |
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2003 7:26 pm
Post subject: Re: Derek Nash - One Simple Question: Ping Ray [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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"Ray" <camcompany.DeleteThis@ntlworld.com> wrote in message news:ccEfb.6712$QH3.999@newsfep4-winn.server.ntli.net...
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> > > Ray, do you think Zakhar is being entirely honest
> > > about his said stance on vivisection, and do you
> > > think his repetitive posing of this question on fleas
> > > is valid, since I've answered it so many times?
> >
> I *was* trying to keep on the sidelines.
>
I know.
> I suppose I could ignore the situation and pretend I'm out at the pub.
>
For how long?
> Tell you what guys, give me five mins to clean ~~jonnies~~ virus posts from
> my mailbox and e-mail me.
>
While you're doing that, spare some time and wonder
if Zakhar has answered these 3 questions fully and
honestly, if you will?
1) Why have you lied to everyone and pretended
to support animal rights?
"Be careful. I consider myself as an active advocate
of animal rights."
Zakhar Date: 2002-07-19
2) Why do you consider yourself to be an animals
rights advocate while condemning animals to the
misery and torture of vivisectionists?
"for example if one rabbit would save 1000 humans,
then I could accept that the rabbit should die."
Zakhar 2003-02-02
3) How can you claim to believe in animal rights
*as much as* human rights while allowing only
one set of rights holders to be spared from the
vivisectionists?
"I believe in animal rights as much as human rights."
Zakhar 2003-09-27 >> Stay informed about: Derek Nash - One Simple Question |
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