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+++Bobby "O"+++

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 1:19 pm
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I've been trying to find a way to contain my African Grey's dander and
feathers (and food) for several years now - and she keeps on defeating me.
I was wondering if anyone out there has any suggestions. If you are going
to send a wise-ass comment, please don't bother - I'm only looking for
viable alternatives. Thanks.....

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2005 7:27 am
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On Fri, 30 Sep 2005 13:19:12 -0400, "+++Bobby \"O\"+++"
<rmo555.RemoveThis@cox.net> wrote:

>I've been trying to find a way to contain my African Grey's dander and
>feathers (and food) for several years now - and she keeps on defeating me.
>I was wondering if anyone out there has any suggestions. If you are going
>to send a wise-ass comment, please don't bother - I'm only looking for
>viable alternatives. Thanks.....

Starting with the food - get a dog :) (not intended as wise-ass -
best auto-vacuum around)

Dander and feathers will probably never be controlled but I reduce the
spread with a small fan next to the cage (blowing away from cage) with
some foam a/c filter material taped to the back. This will be
completely white in days and can just be vacuumed off. If you find a
real containment, I'm sure everyone would want to know what it is !
>

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2005 10:51 am
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"+++Bobby "O"+++" <rmo555.TakeThisOut@cox.net> wrote in message
news:vse%e.11381$GK2.9750@lakeread07...
> I've been trying to find a way to contain my African Grey's dander and
> feathers (and food) for several years now - and she keeps on defeating me.
> I was wondering if anyone out there has any suggestions. If you are going
> to send a wise-ass comment, please don't bother - I'm only looking for
> viable alternatives. Thanks.....

We use an air cleaner with Hepa filter next to the cage with the air blowing
away from
the cage. The black pre-cleaner filter will be white in a few days. That
along with a daily
shower helps but it still amazes me how much dander one little bird puts
off. You might
also try misting down the cage a couple times a day. I am always picking up
feathers and
food but as Carolyn wrote our dog loves Zupreem. Good luck and happy
dusting!
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2005 2:19 am
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Has any one tried an ion fan ... with the air coming from the cage


"Debbie Tope" <dtope.DeleteThis@greenapple.com> wrote in message
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>
> "+++Bobby "O"+++" <rmo555.DeleteThis@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:vse%e.11381$GK2.9750@lakeread07...
>> I've been trying to find a way to contain my African Grey's dander and
>> feathers (and food) for several years now - and she keeps on defeating
>> me. I was wondering if anyone out there has any suggestions. If you are
>> going to send a wise-ass comment, please don't bother - I'm only looking
>> for viable alternatives. Thanks.....
>
> We use an air cleaner with Hepa filter next to the cage with the air
> blowing away from
> the cage. The black pre-cleaner filter will be white in a few days. That
> along with a daily
> shower helps but it still amazes me how much dander one little bird puts
> off. You might
> also try misting down the cage a couple times a day. I am always picking
> up feathers and
> food but as Carolyn wrote our dog loves Zupreem. Good luck and happy
> dusting!
>
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2005 7:29 pm
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What is an ion fan? Do you have an example?


"HMW" <hymurstein.TakeThisOut@sw.rr.com> wrote in message
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> Has any one tried an ion fan ... with the air coming from the cage
>
>
> "Debbie Tope" <dtope.TakeThisOut@greenapple.com> wrote in message
> news:e_2dncGhq_cMP6PeRVn-ig@greenapple.com...
>>
>> "+++Bobby "O"+++" <rmo555.TakeThisOut@cox.net> wrote in message
>> news:vse%e.11381$GK2.9750@lakeread07...
>>> I've been trying to find a way to contain my African Grey's dander and
>>> feathers (and food) for several years now - and she keeps on defeating
>>> me. I was wondering if anyone out there has any suggestions. If you are
>>> going to send a wise-ass comment, please don't bother - I'm only looking
>>> for viable alternatives. Thanks.....
>>
>> We use an air cleaner with Hepa filter next to the cage with the air
>> blowing away from
>> the cage. The black pre-cleaner filter will be white in a few days. That
>> along with a daily
>> shower helps but it still amazes me how much dander one little bird puts
>> off. You might
>> also try misting down the cage a couple times a day. I am always picking
>> up feathers and
>> food but as Carolyn wrote our dog loves Zupreem. Good luck and happy
>> dusting!
>>
>
>
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2005 11:42 am
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Peter Hucker wrote:
> They create ozone? Isn't that toxic to people aswell as birds?
>
> On Mon, 03 Oct 2005 17:51:32 +0100, Phil Jarvis <philj2xNoSpamx.DeleteThis@sybase.com> wrote:
>
> > Presumably they're talking about something like the Ionic Breeze.
> >
> > I would have doubts about putting what is essentially an ozone machine
> > next to my bird. Stick with convention air filters.
> >
> > +++Bobby "O"+++ wrote:
> >> What is an ion fan? Do you have an example?
> >>
> >>
> >> "HMW" <hymurstein.DeleteThis@sw.rr.com> wrote in message
> >> news:ftH%e.5670$Q53.5123@tornado.texas.rr.com...
> >>
> >>> Has any one tried an ion fan ... with the air coming from the cage
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> "Debbie Tope" <dtope.DeleteThis@greenapple.com> wrote in message
> >>> news:e_2dncGhq_cMP6PeRVn-ig@greenapple.com...
> >>>
> >>>> "+++Bobby "O"+++" <rmo555.DeleteThis@cox.net> wrote in message
> >>>> news:vse%e.11381$GK2.9750@lakeread07...
> >>>>
> >>>>> I've been trying to find a way to contain my African Grey's dander and
> >>>>> feathers (and food) for several years now - and she keeps on defeating
> >>>>> me. I was wondering if anyone out there has any suggestions. If you are
> >>>>> going to send a wise-ass comment, please don't bother - I'm only looking
> >>>>> for viable alternatives. Thanks.....
> >>>>
> >>>> We use an air cleaner with Hepa filter next to the cage with the air
> >>>> blowing away from
> >>>> the cage. The black pre-cleaner filter will be white in a few days. That
> >>>> along with a daily
> >>>> shower helps but it still amazes me how much dander one little bird puts
> >>>> off. You might
> >>>> also try misting down the cage a couple times a day. I am always picking
> >>>> up feathers and
> >>>> food but as Carolyn wrote our dog loves Zupreem. Good luck and happy
> >>>> dusting!
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
>
>
>
> --
> http://www.petersparrots.com http://www.insanevideoclips.com http://www.petersphotos.com
>
> Whats the fastest thing in Wales?
> A Virgin Sheep.

Yes, ozone is harmful to humans and probably parrots.
A properly designed and maintained ion generator does not produce
ozone. Ionised air will precipitate dust particles. I am not sure I
would trust one near my CAG because of the harm it might do him.

Steve n Misty.
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2005 12:51 pm
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Presumably they're talking about something like the Ionic Breeze.

I would have doubts about putting what is essentially an ozone machine
next to my bird. Stick with convention air filters.

+++Bobby "O"+++ wrote:
> What is an ion fan? Do you have an example?
>
>
> "HMW" <hymurstein DeleteThis @sw.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:ftH%e.5670$Q53.5123@tornado.texas.rr.com...
>
>>Has any one tried an ion fan ... with the air coming from the cage
>>
>>
>>"Debbie Tope" <dtope DeleteThis @greenapple.com> wrote in message
>>news:e_2dncGhq_cMP6PeRVn-ig@greenapple.com...
>>
>>>"+++Bobby "O"+++" <rmo555 DeleteThis @cox.net> wrote in message
>>>news:vse%e.11381$GK2.9750@lakeread07...
>>>
>>>>I've been trying to find a way to contain my African Grey's dander and
>>>>feathers (and food) for several years now - and she keeps on defeating
>>>>me. I was wondering if anyone out there has any suggestions. If you are
>>>>going to send a wise-ass comment, please don't bother - I'm only looking
>>>>for viable alternatives. Thanks.....
>>>
>>>We use an air cleaner with Hepa filter next to the cage with the air
>>>blowing away from
>>>the cage. The black pre-cleaner filter will be white in a few days. That
>>>along with a daily
>>>shower helps but it still amazes me how much dander one little bird puts
>>>off. You might
>>>also try misting down the cage a couple times a day. I am always picking
>>>up feathers and
>>>food but as Carolyn wrote our dog loves Zupreem. Good luck and happy
>>>dusting!
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2005 4:47 pm
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Hmmm, this makes me wonder if the ventless gas fireplace I just installed
will harm my bird. Anybody know?


"Steve" <sstevelp RemoveThis @aol.com> wrote in message
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>
> Peter Hucker wrote:
>> They create ozone? Isn't that toxic to people aswell as birds?
>>
>> On Mon, 03 Oct 2005 17:51:32 +0100, Phil Jarvis
>> <philj2xNoSpamx RemoveThis @sybase.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Presumably they're talking about something like the Ionic Breeze.
>> >
>> > I would have doubts about putting what is essentially an ozone machine
>> > next to my bird. Stick with convention air filters.
>> >
>> > +++Bobby "O"+++ wrote:
>> >> What is an ion fan? Do you have an example?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "HMW" <hymurstein RemoveThis @sw.rr.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:ftH%e.5670$Q53.5123@tornado.texas.rr.com...
>> >>
>> >>> Has any one tried an ion fan ... with the air coming from the cage
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> "Debbie Tope" <dtope RemoveThis @greenapple.com> wrote in message
>> >>> news:e_2dncGhq_cMP6PeRVn-ig@greenapple.com...
>> >>>
>> >>>> "+++Bobby "O"+++" <rmo555 RemoveThis @cox.net> wrote in message
>> >>>> news:vse%e.11381$GK2.9750@lakeread07...
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> I've been trying to find a way to contain my African Grey's dander
>> >>>>> and
>> >>>>> feathers (and food) for several years now - and she keeps on
>> >>>>> defeating
>> >>>>> me. I was wondering if anyone out there has any suggestions. If
>> >>>>> you are
>> >>>>> going to send a wise-ass comment, please don't bother - I'm only
>> >>>>> looking
>> >>>>> for viable alternatives. Thanks.....
>> >>>>
>> >>>> We use an air cleaner with Hepa filter next to the cage with the air
>> >>>> blowing away from
>> >>>> the cage. The black pre-cleaner filter will be white in a few days.
>> >>>> That
>> >>>> along with a daily
>> >>>> shower helps but it still amazes me how much dander one little bird
>> >>>> puts
>> >>>> off. You might
>> >>>> also try misting down the cage a couple times a day. I am always
>> >>>> picking
>> >>>> up feathers and
>> >>>> food but as Carolyn wrote our dog loves Zupreem. Good luck and happy
>> >>>> dusting!
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> http://www.petersparrots.com http://www.insanevideoclips.com
>> http://www.petersphotos.com
>>
>> Whats the fastest thing in Wales?
>> A Virgin Sheep.
>
> Yes, ozone is harmful to humans and probably parrots.
> A properly designed and maintained ion generator does not produce
> ozone. Ionised air will precipitate dust particles. I am not sure I
> would trust one near my CAG because of the harm it might do him.
>
> Steve n Misty.
>
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2005 6:09 pm
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They create ozone? Isn't that toxic to people aswell as birds?

On Mon, 03 Oct 2005 17:51:32 +0100, Phil Jarvis <philj2xNoSpamx RemoveThis @sybase.com> wrote:

> Presumably they're talking about something like the Ionic Breeze.
>
> I would have doubts about putting what is essentially an ozone machine
> next to my bird. Stick with convention air filters.
>
> +++Bobby "O"+++ wrote:
>> What is an ion fan? Do you have an example?
>>
>>
>> "HMW" <hymurstein RemoveThis @sw.rr.com> wrote in message
>> news:ftH%e.5670$Q53.5123@tornado.texas.rr.com...
>>
>>> Has any one tried an ion fan ... with the air coming from the cage
>>>
>>>
>>> "Debbie Tope" <dtope RemoveThis @greenapple.com> wrote in message
>>> news:e_2dncGhq_cMP6PeRVn-ig@greenapple.com...
>>>
>>>> "+++Bobby "O"+++" <rmo555 RemoveThis @cox.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:vse%e.11381$GK2.9750@lakeread07...
>>>>
>>>>> I've been trying to find a way to contain my African Grey's dander and
>>>>> feathers (and food) for several years now - and she keeps on defeating
>>>>> me. I was wondering if anyone out there has any suggestions. If you are
>>>>> going to send a wise-ass comment, please don't bother - I'm only looking
>>>>> for viable alternatives. Thanks.....
>>>>
>>>> We use an air cleaner with Hepa filter next to the cage with the air
>>>> blowing away from
>>>> the cage. The black pre-cleaner filter will be white in a few days. That
>>>> along with a daily
>>>> shower helps but it still amazes me how much dander one little bird puts
>>>> off. You might
>>>> also try misting down the cage a couple times a day. I am always picking
>>>> up feathers and
>>>> food but as Carolyn wrote our dog loves Zupreem. Good luck and happy
>>>> dusting!
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>



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(Msg. 10) Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2005 7:06 am
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You can buy detectors for most harmful gases out of electronics catalogues. Don't take the manufacturer's word for it, test the thing.

On Mon, 03 Oct 2005 21:47:35 +0100, +++Bobby "O"+++ <rmo555.TakeThisOut@cox.net> wrote:

> Hmmm, this makes me wonder if the ventless gas fireplace I just installed
> will harm my bird. Anybody know?
>
>
> "Steve" <sstevelp.TakeThisOut@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:1128364958.533053.211230@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> Peter Hucker wrote:
>>> They create ozone? Isn't that toxic to people aswell as birds?
>>>
>>> On Mon, 03 Oct 2005 17:51:32 +0100, Phil Jarvis
>>> <philj2xNoSpamx.TakeThisOut@sybase.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> > Presumably they're talking about something like the Ionic Breeze.
>>> >
>>> > I would have doubts about putting what is essentially an ozone machine
>>> > next to my bird. Stick with convention air filters.
>>> >
>>> > +++Bobby "O"+++ wrote:
>>> >> What is an ion fan? Do you have an example?

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(Msg. 11) Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2005 9:28 am
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"Peter Hucker" <no DeleteThis @spam.com> wrote in message
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> They create ozone? Isn't that toxic to people aswell as birds?
>
>
you have ozone in your head phucker or is that a zero zone in your head
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2005 10:58 am
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"Peter Hucker" <no.RemoveThis@spam.com> wrote in message
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> You can buy detectors for most harmful gases out of electronics
> catalogues. Don't take the manufacturer's word for it, test the thing.

Thanks - could you suggest some catalogs and, specifically, what I would be
testing for? I'll certainly follow up.


>
> On Mon, 03 Oct 2005 21:47:35 +0100, +++Bobby "O"+++ <rmo555.RemoveThis@cox.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Hmmm, this makes me wonder if the ventless gas fireplace I just installed
>> will harm my bird. Anybody know?
>>
>>
>> "Steve" <sstevelp.RemoveThis@aol.com> wrote in message
>> news:1128364958.533053.211230@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>>>
>>> Peter Hucker wrote:
>>>> They create ozone? Isn't that toxic to people aswell as birds?
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, 03 Oct 2005 17:51:32 +0100, Phil Jarvis
>>>> <philj2xNoSpamx.RemoveThis@sybase.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > Presumably they're talking about something like the Ionic Breeze.
>>>> >
>>>> > I would have doubts about putting what is essentially an ozone
>>>> > machine
>>>> > next to my bird. Stick with convention air filters.
>>>> >
>>>> > +++Bobby "O"+++ wrote:
>>>> >> What is an ion fan? Do you have an example?
>
> --
> http://www.petersparrots.com http://www.insanevideoclips.com
> http://www.petersphotos.com
>
> _______
> _____ |.-----.|
> /.---.\ || ||
> || || ||_____||
> || /__\ |-_---_-|
> || =| |=| |=
> || !!! !!!
> ||
> || _..---.
> _||___.---.____.-" _...__)
> (______| |_____.-' /
> \ |___| |
> | !!!!! |
> \ /
> '.__ __.'
> _\/``"""""""``\/_
> (__( )__)
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