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(Msg. 1) Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2004 10:07 pm
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I currently have a 120G 60" X 18" X 24" High

This tank has a mixture of semi-compatible fishes, some alone by attrition,
some just odds and ends:
2 - Gold Angels (staring at me from the end of the tank)
2 - Large Silver Dollars 3" and 4"
6 - Rosie Barbs
1 - Glow Light
1 - Guppy
2 - Orange Fined Loaches (that I hardly ever see)
1 - Large pleco
1 - Large Raphael Catfish (that I have not seen out of his hole in the rocks
in years)
UGLY decor believe it or not, fake coral (I know, flame on)

I would like to turn this into an organized Amazon Rain Forest Stream
Aquarium. I will not just get rid of any fish, but slowly over the next
year or two, I would like to introduce plants, bogwood, 6 or 8 Green Discus,
Emerald catfish, 4 to 6 additional Angelfish, Silver Hatchet Fish, many,
many Cardinal Tetra, Neon's, Glow Light, more???

Some of the inhabitants are not totally suited for the change, I am
concerned, which of these current inhabitants will have the most difficult
time? I will find new homes for the incompatible. How will my existing
Angels and Silver Dollars tolerate the change? How can I protect the
Cardinals, Neon's and Glow Lights from the Angels? How do I protect the New
Angels from the old ones?

The tank is 24" high, how much light will I need to keep the plants alive?

Thanks for all your advice.
JOhn ><>

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2005 12:22 pm
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"John ><>" <jlange.please.RemoveThis@please.lakemason.pleasenotme.com> wrote in
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>I currently have a 120G 60" X 18" X 24" High
>
> This tank has a mixture of semi-compatible fishes, some alone by
> attrition, some just odds and ends:
> 2 - Gold Angels (staring at me from the end of the tank)
> 2 - Large Silver Dollars 3" and 4"
> 6 - Rosie Barbs
> 1 - Glow Light
> 1 - Guppy
> 2 - Orange Fined Loaches (that I hardly ever see)
> 1 - Large pleco
> 1 - Large Raphael Catfish (that I have not seen out of his hole in the
> rocks in years)
> UGLY decor believe it or not, fake coral (I know, flame on)
>
> I would like to turn this into an organized Amazon Rain Forest Stream
> Aquarium. I will not just get rid of any fish, but slowly over the
> next year or two, I would like to introduce plants, bogwood, 6 or 8
> Green Discus, Emerald catfish, 4 to 6 additional Angelfish, Silver
> Hatchet Fish, many, many Cardinal Tetra, Neon's, Glow Light, more???
>
> Some of the inhabitants are not totally suited for the change, I am
> concerned, which of these current inhabitants will have the most
> difficult time? I will find new homes for the incompatible. How will
> my existing Angels and Silver Dollars tolerate the change? How can I
> protect the Cardinals, Neon's and Glow Lights from the Angels? How do
> I protect the New Angels from the old ones?
>
> The tank is 24" high, how much light will I need to keep the plants
> alive?
>
> Thanks for all your advice.
> JOhn ><>


Hey John, you sound like you have far more fun with your tanks than with
your business ;~) I read blank's answer, and while it gave me a good
laugh, I have to admit there is a lot of truth to what he is saying. You
could pile up a lot of intertwining driftwood in one end of the tank, and
that will act to impede the Angelfish, (and if done correctly, provide
varied sized shelter, such as small Angels might use, and possibly enough
to maintain schools of tetras). It will have a similar effect on the
Silver dollars (who can also eat small fish), but it will not work so
nicely to keep them away from the plants. You can get some plants in the
driftwood tangle to be safe from the SDs but they will be heavily shaded
and difficult to maintain under all that wood. I think your tank is far
too small for the amount of environments you want to maintain. You might
have to re-think your plans a bit.

Besides the SDs, and the mixing of different sized Angels and tetras, the
other fish which don't fit are the Guppy (wrong water), the large Pleco
(geographically correct but a destroyer of fine plants), Rosie barbs and
loaches (geographical), and I'm not certain about the Raphael (but you
never see him anyways ;~).

I have a 120g in my basement with those dimensions. I wouldn't go less
than 160W. I've actually had it running very nicely as a planted tank
where I had to periodically cut back the jungle vallesneria (which is a
good plant for tall tanks). I didn't have CO2, didn't use ferts and only
had an old 40W bulb over it. It took a couple of years for the Val to
really get into and stay in this overgrown state. If I had known then
what I know now, this arrangement would of course never have worked ;~).
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2005 3:19 pm
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Forget it, it wont work: get cable TV instead. That way you will have
something to watch.

The angelfish will eat all the tetras and the silver dollars will eat all
the plants.

(There are lots of documentaries about amazon rain forests on cable TV.)
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2005 8:53 pm
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<<snip>>
> Hey John, you sound like you have far more fun with your tanks than with
> your business ;~) I read blank's answer, and while it gave me a good
> laugh, I have to admit there is a lot of truth to what he is saying. You
> could pile up a lot of intertwining driftwood in one end of the tank, and
> that will act to impede the Angelfish,

You haven't seen my business. I have to spend all day, each day standing
and sitting around BS (oops) talking with guys about hunting and fishing,
boating, water skiing, and now I add All Terrain Vehicles and go-carts. In
the middle of this, I am maintaining 500 gallons of water in 9 tanks, and
looking to add another 400 in 1 tank.

Can you think of a better job? (well maybe) but I have a blast. I found a
building with an 8,000 gallon tank, but they won't sell it to me (rats).

Thanks for your idea's, the incompatible fish would move to a different tank
to live out their lives happily with others of their kind, I like the idea
of providing enough cover so the little fish can hide when they feel the
need. I have never really seen a Cardinal Tetra, are they big enough to
fend for themselves?

JOhn ><>
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2005 11:01 pm
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2005 9:46 pm
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"luminos" <logos1.DeleteThis@trip.net> wrote in message
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> Oh wow....size matters huh?
>
>
YUP :<)
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