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Tess

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2004 5:15 pm
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Hi guys,

I will be getting a collie in about 6 months time (he will be 6 months
old - the breeder isn't sure if he or his brother will be better for
showing, so I get the reject) and want some time to prepare.

I have always wanted a collie, they are my favourite dogs in the world
and so I have read a few general things about them - their sensitivity
etc.

Is there any behaviours I should be worried about and try and correct
straight away? What are they *really* like to live with?

Also we aren't sure where to leave him while we are at work - I'd
appreciate any ideas at all!

Thanks in advance

Natalie

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Shelly & The Boys

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2004 10:42 pm
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"Tess" <manuel RemoveThis @austchart.com.au> wrote in message
news:75d11e24.0403111715.223e66@posting.google.com...
> Hi guys,
>
> I will be getting a collie in about 6 months time (he will be 6 months
> old - the breeder isn't sure if he or his brother will be better for
> showing, so I get the reject) and want some time to prepare.
>
> I have always wanted a collie, they are my favourite dogs in the world
> and so I have read a few general things about them - their sensitivity
> etc.
>
> Is there any behaviours I should be worried about and try and correct
> straight away? What are they *really* like to live with?
>

First & foremost? Barking! If you don't want a barker, teach him
to not bark early on. Collies are notorious for being barkers, but
I know some that aren't. So they obviously either aren't all barkers
or have been taught otherwise! :-)

And, learn to groom that coat, if you're not already familiar with grooming
heavy, double-coated dogs. If you're not showing in
conformation, weekly grooming session should be fairly easy.
Start young, hopefully the breeder has already well introduced grooming
to the pups. They should be used to being brushed, combed,
bathed & dried w/ a dog dryer (since their coats are so thick, it's not a
coat that I'd personally allow to dry naturally--it could take days! :-)),
having their nails done, and their ears cleaned. Have the breeder
show you how they groom their pets, or retired dogs. Heavy coated
dogs can be a bit much to groom, but having a dog that doesn't fight
you while you're doing it makes the job much better!

If you don't have a copy of _Collie Concept_ by Bobbi Roos (IIRC, it's
in my car!), get one. I know that copies are available at
www.alpinepub.com.
I do not have a Collie, but a Belgian Sheepdog, and it is actually
the book many Belgian people recommended to me to learn grooming
techniques.

Also, make sure they get a lot of playtime & socialization with other
dogs of other sorts. I've met a few Collies that get
along well with other Collies, but not-so-well with other breeds of
dogs. Most I've met don't go much for the rough & tumble type of
play that some breeds are famous for (like Labs, Goldens & Boxers,
for example), so they shouldn't be allowed to be bullied by rough
dogs. Many Collies however, are simply happy just playing with
their owners. Find a good obedience class that emphasizes positive
training methods. Not only do they teach the dog, but more importantly,
it should teach the handler how to teach their dog things. Teaching, IMHO,
equals Bonding time. :-)

Consistent, firm yet nowhere near harsh training is important for these
dogs.
Collies are generally very biddable and eager to please their handlers.
Just don't "spoil" a puppy too much by letting them get away with
things that you'd never dream of allowing an older dog to do. Afterall,
they aren't exactly small when full-grown. If you don't allow dogs on
furniture, establish that early on & stick with it. Consistency is key.

At 6 mos of age, I should hope that the breeder has been doing his/her
share of socializing the puppy with lots of people, environments,
other dogs & such. Early socialization is critical in developing puppies.
I know it's not an uncommon practice for Collie breeders to keep
their puppies longer than many other breeders of other breeds would
to see how they grow out. It's what the breeder has been doing
with the pups during that time that is important.
I adore Collies, they're such a "comforting" breed to me.
And, getting a new puppy can be such a rewarding and exciting time!
Best of luck with your new boy! :-)
Shelly & The Boys:
Coda (4 1/2 yr old Collie-somethin')
Bodhi (18 mos. old Belgian Sheepdog)

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Gwen Watson

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2004 7:48 am
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Chris Jung wrote:

>
>
>Rough collies have a reputation as being more sluggish than smoothies.
>Take care,
>Chris and her happy smoothie, Pablo
>
>
>

Some very great stuff Chris and Shelly.

I wasn't aware that rough coats had a reputation for being more
sluggish? That is very interesting. Do you have any idea why
this would be. I thought they were really the same breed?

I have only known rough coats personally. I have only
recently seen the smooth coats at shows. I love them.

Thanks for this very informative post about your
favorite breed.

BTW, I hope you find that special smooth coat.

Gwen
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Tess

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2004 11:21 pm
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Hey :)

Thanks for the info on the coat. I've noticed since I've been looking
there is a really wide variety in how "fluffy" they are...I'm not sure
whether this varies between countries or is just a dog by dog thing.
My pup's parents and grandparents don't have a huge fluffy coat, they
seem to have the rougher, less boofy coat (about the same as the
original Lassie, for example).

I'm not sure yet on how much exercise he would get, apart from a daily
walk. We have a very big backyard so we used to throw balls a lot for
our shepherd and he just loved it. What kind of exercise to collies
prefer?

Thanks for info - I'm so excited I can barely wait the 6 months so I
have to keep talking about them in order to control myself..hehe. any
day now I'll be renting the complete collection of lassie movies or
something!

Natalie

>>
>
>Hi Natalie,
>Congrats on getting your new collie. I'm a collie person, currently down to
>one, my cute boy, Pablo. Our old lady, Zeffie, died last month and we are
>in the process of getting another one. My collies are of the smooth
>persuasion so I don't have much to offer in terms of grooming but other than
>that, Roughs and Smoothes are the same dogs under the fur. Shelly had some
>excellent advice. Collie Concept is an good book to own. Your breeder should
>be a good resource for grooming and your pup should be used to being on the
>grooming table and being brushed and touched all over.
>
>
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2004 2:43 am
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Whisper is my first collie and I'm very impressed how good and gentle she
is. If I can afford I will have another collie.

I keep her inside while I'm gone to work. It seems like she is sleeping all
day while I'm gone. She never had accident. She never chewed up any
furniture or other items. I have very irregular work schedule may go to work
at 5 AM or 6PM may come home 10AM or 3AM and some time in between, may work
4 hours or 16hours(very a few times a year) most of the time 6-9 hours.
However she adjusts very well. Sometimes I leave her in fenced back yard
when weather is good for her. You just need to remember nice day for you
could be too hot for collie. I see when temperature is perfect for me she is
panting and my cat is lying in the sun.

About exercise, since she was very neglect and mistreated dog, she does not
know human game such as tennis ball and Frisbee. I rescued her when she was
age 3. All she knows is "chase and run". I play chase and run game with her
in the backyard. She runs circle around me then charges me!

I'm sure you will enjoy your new collie. I'm excited for you.
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