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Since: Jan 15, 2004 Posts: 1
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2004 6:29 pm
Post subject: Clinical testing / research of raw diets Archived from groups: rec>pets>dogs>health (more info?)
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Hi all,
I have a six-month old newf that I'm currently feeding a high quality
kibble (Noble, made in Walkerton Ontario). I'v begun doing some
research into alternative nutrition options and have begun to look at
diet's like Levy, BARF, Volhard etc.
My primary concern, obviously, is to do what's best for my pup, and
while there is certainly a wealth a information out there about all
these diets, what I find striking is the seeming lack of clinical
evidence (either for or against). There is no shortage of anecdote
and hearsay, lots and lots of "my dog was sick and then I started
BARF, and now she is 16 and still acts like a puppy" or, on the other
side "I started my dog on the Volhard diet, she broke out in hives and
all her hair fell out".
All, some or none of these stories may be accurate, it's hard to know,
but I would feel a lot more confident switching diets if there was
scientific research to back them up. Have any studies been done?
Where could I get a hold of the results? If studies have not been
done, then why not? Are there any currently underway?
Any information would be greatly appreciated.
Nuri Frame
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Since: Jan 11, 2004 Posts: 7
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2004 3:45 pm
Post subject: Re: Clinical testing / research of raw diets [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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I wouldn't disagree with what you say. There are a good many human
beings out there whose diet is terrible and who live long and happy
lives. For that matter, there are a good many people who abuse their
bodies throughout their life with poor diets, no exercise, smoking,
drinking, drugs, etc. and still live long lives. I don't know if you
have children or not, but given the choice, what would you choose for
your children: fresh, nutritious,
unprocessed food or processed food out of a bag or can?
Would you require scientific evidence to make your decision?
For me it would be a no brainer.
diddy wrote:
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>Does this mean we should all go out and feed our dogs OLD ROY and Alpo? To
>say so, would be irresponsible.
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>But opinions based on results of personal experiences would make this
>woman's opinion as valid as anyone's here. Her dog's are doggone healthy!
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>Personal experience without scientific studies are called anecdotal
>evidence.
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>Because it has worked for you, does not mean it works for everyone.
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2004 6:05 pm
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2004 6:05 pm
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Actually I don't get any warm fuzzies from feeding a more natural diet,
it just seems right to me. As far as other foods for dogs, clearly the
quality is improving, that is if a person is interested enough to
investigate. I rather envy you and your self sufficient ways. It
sounds like a good life.
I have always wondered about dog people who swear by the biologically
appropriate foods for their dogs. Do they eat only fresh fruits,
vegetables, grains, nuts, fish, etc.? I bet a lot of them pig out on
junk food, which is okay.
diddy wrote:
>Scott wrote in
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>>I wouldn't disagree with what you say. There are a good many human
>>beings out there whose diet is terrible and who live long and happy
>>lives. For that matter, there are a good many people who abuse their
>>bodies throughout their life with poor diets, no exercise, smoking,
>>drinking, drugs, etc. and still live long lives. I don't know if you
>>have children or not, but given the choice, what would you choose for
>>your children: fresh, nutritious,
>>unprocessed food or processed food out of a bag or can?
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>>Would you require scientific evidence to make your decision?
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>>For me it would be a no brainer.
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>Considering that I process, smoke, can, grow, raise, hunt just about 90% of
>what we eat (but canning, freezing, smoking, curing is all processing and
>trust me, I DO add preservatives. I mean, that's what curing processing IS,
>as well as smoking (bathing the meat in carcinogens) I don't eat the
>convenient way, because it's a LOT of hard work. But do I kid myself into
>thinking that it's any healthier? Probably not. But something about self
>sufficiency makes you FEEL GOOD.
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>I used to be a natural feeder, and I understand the warm fuzzies that make
>you think it's doing the BEST for your dog. I'm not going to try to change
>your mind. Nor do I want to. I just know that although i don't buy for me
>and my family, I have had some REALLY bad experiences with natural feeding,
>and now prefer to buy my dog's food from a company that has not only one,
>but a BUNCH of nutritionists on board.
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>I have been there, done that, and as hard as I tried to do it right,
>apparently I just couldn't. I'm not going there again. Good luck to you if
>you can.
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2004 6:52 pm
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