HOWEDY Marulira,
"Marulira" <marita.DeleteThis@sacbeemail.com> wrote in message
news:8211d71f.0402231100.4c7e94eb@posting.google.com...
>
> We're looking to get a Chihuahua and have come
> across 2 1.5YO dogs who are incredibly sweet.
EXXXCELLENT. You want to keep them like that?
> They seem to be in excellent health (I will get
> them checked by a vet if I decide to get one or both).
Good.
> My concerns:
>
> We were looking to get only 1 dog.
Two are MOORE FUN.
> We plan to expand on our dog family in another
> couple of years
No time like the present.
> but I wanted to start with 1 now.
> Since these two little guys have been together
> all along, is it cruel of me to separate them?
HOWE would you like to be separated from
your life long pal?
> The owner is willing to either way though she
> would prefer it if they went together.
Well GO FOR IT.
> My SO feels that since we will be getting another
> one down the road, why not get two now?
An EXXXCELLENT idea.
> Both of us work so the dog will be by himself
> about 8 hour a day (except for the company of
> a very talkative cockatiel). Both these dogs have
> been in a similar situation since the owner is gone
> most of the day and returns only in the evening.
NO PROBLEMO.
> But at least they had each other for company...
Your dog values the quality time you spend
together, not the time you're not together.
> Any advice would be appreciated.
You're asing LIARS DOG ABUSERS and A
ACTIVE INCURABLE LONG TERM MENTAL
PATIENTS for advice that they ain't got.
> Thanks,
You been readin HOWER forums?
> M
> | ----- Original Message -----
> | From: "N"
> | To: "The Puppy Wizard" <thepuppywizard.DeleteThis@earthlink.net>
> | Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2004 12:10 PM
> | Subject: Hi Jerry
> | > Hi Jerry
> | >
> | > I read your manual years ago and never got
> | > around for thanking you for getting me to read it.
> | > Have never been back to the dog newsgroups
> | > due to the frightening amount of people
> | > offering sad advice.
> | >
> | > Keep up the excellent work!
> | >
> | > Thanks
> | > N
----- Original Message -----
From: "N"
To: "The Puppy Wizard" <ThePuppyWizard.DeleteThis@EarthLink.Net>
Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2004 1:11 PM
Subject: Re: Hi Jerry
> It's good to post happy camper feedbacks in
> your favour for others to see, but between you
> and me, your posts themselves prove your success.
>
> As far as I can tell you have been the most
> constant poster with the most constant advice;
> never veering from what you know best.
> I've never heard you contradict yourself. A
> trait that's unheard of in newsgroups these
> days. And I'll vouch it's not bullshit.
>
> Ta
> N
HOWEDY N,
Indeed. Over the years my information
and consistency have become more
inflexible thanks to the constant challenges
especially from the more learned university
trained behaviorists.
The ng's have been a wonderful learning
experience for me. Have you read "Misbehavior
Of Organism's" by Breeland and Breeland?
Nothing makes for better business than
tough competition. And giving it up for
FREE is a special reward. Perhaps that
only caters to my own vindicive nature?
Yours, Jerry.
New Law Of Physics
HOWEDY People,
"The amount of misery and difficulty a dog abuser has from
their dogs is directly proportionate to the number of times
they've WARNED people to KILLFILE Jerry and not study
your FREE copy of The Puppy Wizard's FREE WWW Wits'
End Dog Training Method manual..."
"The Methods, Principles, And Philosophy Of Behavior Never
Change, Or They'd Not Be Scientific And Would Not Obtain
Consistent, Reliable, Fast, Effective Results For All
Handler's And All Dogs, As Taught In Your FREE Copy Of The
Puppy Wizard's FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual."
The Puppy Wizard. <{} ; ~ ) >
Here's Disciple Paulie:
Disciple Paulie Sez: "No One Understands How Wits End
Training Really Works, They Assume It's All Nicey Nicey And
don't Realise It's A Very Disciplined Method That Deals With
Any Situation And The Foundation Is Built On Trust And
Understanding."
Disciple Paulie Writes:
I've never forced my dogs to do anything, I tell them they are
good dogs and they seem to follow me, once I told them they
were bad dogs and they ran away from me, now I only ever tell
them they are good dogs and they always are, always.
Trust your dog, ask it to do your request and say "good dog"
sincerely at the end of the request and I bet you'll find your
dog thinking then responding everytime.
A bit of respect works wonders, the same rule applies
to every aspect of the relationship with your dog.
Obedience and affection are not related, if they were
everyone would have obedient dogs.
Paul.
========================
Two HOWETA three Pauls PREFER NOT HURTIN
DOGS as The Puppy Wizard teaches in HIS FREE
WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual.
Here's two Pauls:
Date: 5/22/03 11:24:35 PM Eastern
Daylight Time
From: p.DeleteThis@cfl.rr.com
To: Witsenddog.DeleteThis@aol.com
Well, let me tell you, your Wits' End
Dog Training Method works.
My dog, Dasie, Loves to chase chameleons
around the barbecue on the patio. I
used this system on four different occasions.
When she went out today, she looked
everywhere else but the barbecue.
Amazing, just amazing.
I will write to Amanda about the video.
I am really excited to learn more, and
understand. Maybe just a little reassurance
that I am going about it the right way.
Thanks again
Paul
> > =============================
Disciple Paulie Sez: "No One Understands How Wits End
Training Really Works, They Assume It's All Nicey Nicey
And don't Realise It's A Very Disciplined Method That
Deals With Any Situation And The Foundation Is Built
On Trust And Understanding."
Disciple Paulie Writes:
I've never forced my dogs to do anything, I tell them
they are good dogs and they seem to follow me, once
I told them they were bad dogs and they ran away from
me, now I only ever tell them they are good dogs and
they always are, always.
Trust your dog, ask it to do your request and
say "good dog" sincerely at the end of the
request and I bet you'll find your dog thinking
then responding everytime.
A bit of respect works wonders, the same rule
applies to every aspect of the relationship with
your dog.
Obedience and affection are not related, if they
were everyone would have obedient dogs.
Paul.
========================
Paul B <panders.DeleteThis@zfree.co.nz> wrote in message
news:3c638e36@clear.net.nz...
>> > "James Roberts" <me.DeleteThis@privacy.net> wrote in message
>> > news:3C637444.20DD6735@privacy.net...
> > I have downloaded and have read Jerry's Wit's End
> > document. Ignoring what you think of his participation,
> > what is your assessment of the merits of his
> > techniques?
Hello James,
I have used his recommended techniques and ideas with great
success, and over the period I've used these methods the more
I've become to understand and appreciate how his methods work
and how effective they can be if carried out correctly.
His manual isn't conventional and as such gets critisized and
misunderstood. The basic concept is to allow the dog to choose
whatever behaviour it wants for any situation but to distract
(and immediately praise ) it from behaviours we deem
undesirable, because of the correctly timed distractions
repeated usually about 4 times (in each location) the dog
decides of it own accord that this behaviour is undesriable
and therefore pursues something else, if that behaviour is
also inappropriate to us then we carry on distracting, very
soon the dog finds a behaviour that is mutually acceptable.
The benefits of this type of approach are numerous, Firstly we
aren't challenging the dog so there is no conflict so the dog
does't develop any possible negativity to us, the dog decides
of it own free will that a behaviour is unsatisfying so
chooses to cease it (in other words even if we are gone the
dog won't have any desire to pursue that behaviour i.e. bin
raiding etc).
I would recommend his manual.
Paul
=========================
From: Paul B (panders@zfree.co.nz) Subject: Re: Can pack
leader influence rank? Date: 2002-02-25 00:51:48 PST
I use sound to distract the dog and praise it immediately. The
reason for the immediate praise is that as soon as the dog is
distracted it's no longer thinking of the inappropriate
behaviour so the praise reinforces the "not doing" the
unwanted behaviour.
I use various sound sources, a soda can with stones in it, car
keys, Click my fingers, etc. Varying the direction of the
sound each time is important too, otherwise the dog may begin
to anticipate the sound and it will lose it's effect, if the
noise direction is random the dog won't get too familiar with
it and it will remain an effective distraction.
Remember too that we aren't trying to scare the bejesus outta
the dog, simply breaking it's train of thought while it's
thinking of the unwanted behaviour.
Sometimes you won't even see a reaction but the dog will have
been distracted fleetingly. (Recently one of my dogs started
habitually licking my feet while I was watching TV, I clicked
my fingers on her left side and told her "good girl" even
though she only paused her licking briefly, next I clicked
over her right side and praised, by about the 4th repeat she
suddenly stopped, I repeated this over a few nights and now
she doesn't lick any more, on the few occasions she absent
mindedly licks now all I do is click and praise and she
immediately stops).
Timing is important too, learn to anticipate when the dog is
thinking about doing the "dirty deed" and distract and praise
then, with any luck the dog will try again almost immediately
so distract and praise again, if the timing is correct after
about the 4th rep the dog will stop.
I could go on but this post is long enough already, remember
too that the dog isn't being a "bad dog", it's behaviour is
simply inappropriate for the circumstances.
Happy training, :-)
Paul
==========================
Subject: Re: Leadership and hieracy. And Tit For Tat...
Date: 2003-02-26 18:24:01 PST
HOWEDY Disciple Paulie,
Paul B wrote:
> I was having a discussion the other day about leadership and
> hierarchy in the home environment.
Right... dog pack, Scout Pack, family pack, military platoon,
it's all the same same same same...
> I'm a firm believer that setting the hierarchy is very
> important in order to be able to train a dog and also to
> solve behaviour problems, anxieties etc.
Right. That's HOWE COME we don't have disobedience or fighting
in the ranks.
> I think that how we behave when the dog is about whether we
> are addressing the dog or not contributes to our dogs view
> of us.
Right. That's HOWE COME the military doesn't permit
fraternization between officers and enlisted personnel. That's
HOWE COME companies have executive toilets and cafeterias and
the military has enlisted and officers and NCO'S clubs, and
families have children's play rooms, adult bedrooms, and
common areas where neither sort have priority over the HOWES
rules.
> We were discussing how a persons personality affects the way
> the dog views and respects them.
Right. That's HOWE COME food bribes USURP the handler's
authority. The dog is working for a tangible item, not respect
for the pack rules.
Bribes teach GREED, not comaraderie.
> I argued that it's no use trying to impress the dog with
> your leadership abilities if in other areas you don't show
> the same.
Right. Same same as the reasons behind restricting
fraternization.
Makes sense in business too. The rules are about the same same
same same for your dogs, kids, spouses, employee's
and employers. We must never use force fear confrontation,
or HOWER AUTHORITY to enforce HOWER WILL.
That's HOWE COME we train the come command as a conditioned
reflex, there's no choice in the matter, it's strictly reflex.
Any command can be trained as a CR, but we don't
want to do that because it would inhibit the dog's THINKING
and ability and desire to RATIONALIZE, and SOLVE PROBLEMS
and use his senses to do his job to the best of his ability.
That's not to say we don't be PALS, just that there's a
certain modicum of respect for WON another that must
always be followed to insure strict discipline and proper
authority.
THAT'S what makes for RESPECT.
IOW, we DON'T WANT TOTAL CONTROL based solely on REFLEX,
because we want the dog to WILLINGLY WANT
TO DO AS WE ASK, even if it's NOT EXXXACTLY HOWE
WE ULTIMATELY WANT HIM TO BEHAVE.
We're walking a middle line between total unthinking
response, and total COOPERATIVE EFFORT.
When cooperation fails, we reinstill HOWER authority by
pulling rank, IOW, using the come command as leverage to
subordinate the dog, and then return him to the heel or
PARTNERSHIP position, where he can start off again as a
partner, not a subordinate.
So we're DELEGATING AUTHORITY, in a sense, and
we intervene with a come command when the dog exceeds
his bounds or fails to achieve, and start over again till the
behaviors are LEARNED PUPPERLY and the dog is a
WILLING WORKER.
Then the dog will NEVER question HOWER requests,
cause to do otherWIZE would be contraWIZE, to borrow
a term from HOWER professor SCRUFF SHAKE.
> For instance lets say you do exercises etc with the
> dog to set the hierarchy and act all in control in front
> it but are disorganized, easily flustered, indecisive,
> intimidated by others, etc in other aspects of your life.
That would likely make the dog overly protective... like if
some mugger was disturbing your XYL... you'd automatically
THUMP him. HOWEver, if the XYL had TOTAL CONTROL
and showed the mugger up to be a CHUMP, you'd stand
there laughin your @$$ of at them and give her a hug when
she's finished dispatching IT.
> My view is the dog is always observing you
Every last detail. My dogs know if I take off my reading
glasses and leave my desk, I'm fixin to be away for a few
minutes and they'll follow. If I step away from my desk
wearing my glasses, I'm just goin to a file to find somethin
and return to work, so they remain where they are cause they
know I'm not goin nowhere noHOWE.
> and will see you for what you really are -
Right. Dogs are not so EZ to FOOL as PEOPLE are.
> not a worthy leader in this example despite your attempts to
> convince the dog otherwise when your are one to one.
Right. The Puppy Wizzzard tries to find the middle line, so
the dog will be concerned about what's goin on, yet not overly
concerned and still confident of their position and regard for
their leadership.
It's a delicate balance between being totally in control, and
totally out of control. That's HOWE COME dogs protect
HOWErselves.
A STRONG, IRON WILLED LEADER NEEDS NO PROTECTION. An
INTELLIGENT, FRAGILE, leader
NEEDS CONSTANT PROTECTION... so, we WANT
the dog to THINK we're AFRAID of things that go BUMP
in the nite.
We WANT HOWER dogs to believe we're delicate,
so they won't rougHOWES us.
> My observations seem to confirm this too,
INDEEDY.
> watching people with their dogs at parks etc, the more
> confident people seem to have better control of their dogs
> and better> behaved dogs than apparently less confident
> people.
Same same for military and businesses and family and
scouting...
That's HOWE COME The Puppy Wizzzard's FREE
WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual Students
get BETTER CONTROL when their dogs are OFF LEAD,
than when they're restricted on lead.
The dog senses the TRUST and CONFIDENCE the handler
has placed on them to DO as they're REQUESTED, despite
that there's no apparent means of CORRECTING MISTAKES.
That makes the dog FEEL GOOD about working and paying
attention and DOIN as he's ASKED.
HOWEVER, WONce the dog is ORDERED to DO something, the trust
and confidence are eroded and the dog is MOORE likely to
challenge HOWER authority and will UNDOUBTEDLY fail to do the
command, cause he's gonna challenge your authority if he feels
put upon, and will be unwilling to comply, forcing the handler
to take action to regain control and ENFORCE HIS WILL.
WONce we get into a battle of the wills, the dog wins in EVERY
situation where we cannot force control.
> Not absolutely but just generally.
Well, we're talking about VERY SUBTLE effects having BIG
influences on ALL HOWER RELATIONSHIPS.
Like the chain of command in the military must never be
broken, we can establish similar rules for HOWER behavior
which will be followed by everyWON in the PACK, be it family,
dog, scouts, business, or military command.
> If I'm correct then is it possible our dogs obedience and
> behaviors etc are reflecting our self confidences?
ABSOLUTELY. Hesitating while giving commands,
waiting for the last command to be followed etc,
detract from the dog's sense of confidence in us,
and shows him we're UNCERTAIN as to HIS
willingness to FOLLOW COMMANDS, just as it
makes kids or wives or employees and employers
say "NO!"
> Paul
WONCE we learn HOWE to ESTABLISH the proper
degree of CONTROL,
HOWER charges will follow suite because it's the MOST NATURAL
THING TO DO. We NEVER QUESTION pupper
authority. HOWEver, if we go over or under, we have
FIGHTING in the ranks, MUTINY, and DESERTION.
NOW there's only TWO questions remaining: HOWE
do we instill pupper discipline without repression to
elicit 100% TOTAL NON PHYSICAL CONTROL just
like a military unit with HOWER dogs, kids, spouses,
employee's, employer's, and governments?
AND HOWE COME The Puppy Wizzzard NEVER
FOLLOWED HIS OWN RULES HERE ON HOWER
FORUM, KNOWING FULL WELL, TO DO OTHERWIZE
WILL CERTAINLY CAUSE DISSENT, FIGHTING, HATRED, ANGER, EVEN
DEATH?
The First question is ANSWERED IN FULL in your
FREE copy of The Puppy Wizzzard's FREE WWW
Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual.
The SECOND question is answered in reading HOWER
forum...FIGGER IT OUT. The Puppy Wizzzard came here
to IDENTIFY, EXXXPOSE, DISCREDIT, and DESTROY
the lying dog abusing Punk Thug Cowards we got here
who INTENTIONALLY HURT DOGS to ENFORCE THEIR
WILL AND WILL GLADLY KILL A BAD DOG, TO BE FAIR.
Kinda tit for tat, Disciple Paulie... It's a HARD LESSON
for SHORE, but a NECESSARY WON, given the state
of the art here abouts.
Your Puppy Wizzzard. <}TPW : ~ { >
Here's Disciple Paulie's reply to roo (alikat) when she LIED
and said The Puppy Wizard's FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training
Method Manual is DANGERHOWES and INEFFECTIVE:
"Paul B" <panders.DeleteThis@zfree.co.nz> wrote in message
news:3c2ae204@clear.net.nz...
> Bollocks, the manual has no dangerous suggestions at all,
> people who find the manual useful are those that don't need
> to control a dog to satisfy their own ego but simply want a
> well behaved dog that is easy to live with.
>
> I would suggest the people who follow the advice in his
> manual are people who have already tried other inefficient
> methods and are fed up with the poor results.
>
> The more I think about the methods he suggests the more
> sense it makes, the biggest problem is people believe they
> have to be in control of the dog, tell it whats right and
> wrong, dogs don't understand our values and I don't believe
> they are capable of understanding them either, so to train
> them we use methods they understand.
>
> That means abstract training, doing sometimes what appears
> to > almost be the opposite of what makes sense to us.
>
> If you are purely result orientated then you will not find
> Jerry's manual much use, if you love your dogs and love to
> work WITH them then his manual is your dream come true.
> Distraction and praise works with any dog, when you sit back
> and really think about it, it's very obvious why.
>
> When a dog is properly distracted (and praised) of a
> particular behaviour then that behaviour very quickly
> becomes unfulfilling so the dog will no longer have any
> interest in pursuing it, whether we are about or not, thats
> the key to stopping garbage can raids and food stealing etc
> etc, no force, no bad dog, just distracting it in an
> appropriate manner that it no longer wishes to pursue that
> behaviour.
>
> Better than hiding the garbage can eh?
>
> Paul
=======================
Subject: Re: Get off the bed... please?
Paul B (NOSPAMpaulbousie@clear.net.nz) Subject: Good dogs!!!
bad dogs.?? Date: 2000/10/21
Something occurred this morning that made me think how we
treat our dogs and what expectations we have of them.
Because it was a Saturday we slept in and the dogs eventually
jumped up on the bed on my wife's side. After a brief greeting
she very abruptly demanded they get down, "OFF THE BED" she
insisted, Sam looked at her perplexed, so she repeated the
"order", so Sam tried to lick her face, "GET OFF" she said
abruptly.
Sam got down but was unsure what he had done wrong. After a
bit they both came over and jumped up on my side, I patted
them etc and eventually asked them to get down, "off the bed,
good dogs" and they hopped off immediately with no prob's.
Eileen asked me why they obey me and not her so easily. I told
her they got down for me because I asked them to, they know
the command "off the bed" or "off anything" so there is no
need to demand it of them, ask them and they will comply,
demand it and they get confused because they think you are
annoyed with them but they don't know why so they try to "make
amends" which is why Sam licked her.
I have found giving dogs "payment" in advance i.e. "Sam sit
goodboy" makes the dogs want to respond, after all, all dogs
want to be "good dogs" and if you tell them they are good then
they feel an obligation to obey your request.
Telling Sam he's a good dog after he sit's apart from been too
late is also a gamble because if he doesn't sit then there's
no positive interaction.
Trust your dog, ask it to do your request and say "good dog"
sincerely at the end of the request and I bet you'll find your
dog thinking then responding everytime.
Paul
=======================
From: Paul B (NOSPAMpanders@zfree.co.nz) Subject: Re: Get off
the bed... please? Date: 2001-07-03 03:05:59 PST
A bit of respect works wonders, the same rule applies to every
aspect of the relationship with your dog.
Paul.
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"Paul B" <someone.DeleteThis@microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:3edc57c5@clear.net.nz...
>
> "shaper" <nomail.DeleteThis@nowhere.com> wrote in message
> news:3edb6bbb@quokka.wn.com.au...
>
> > I have been reading these forums for a few weeks now,
> > and am getting really confused!! but is there actually
> > anyone who has used the methods in this manual with any
> > success ?
100% TOTAL NON PHYSICAL CONTROL, NEARLY INSTANTLY, BY EVERY
FREE WWW Wits' End Dog
Training Method Manual Student.
It's the GENTLEST, FASTEST, MOST EFFECTIVE,
NON FORCE, NON CONFRONTATIONAL, NON
BRIBE, SCIENTIFIC and PSYCHOLOGICAL
technique in the Whole Wild World, BAR NONE.
> > I am wanting to get a rhodesian ridgeback soon and really
> > would like to know the best and most effective way of
> > training without using food treats or violence (i do agree
> > with what the guy says about food treats and violence)
> > Thanks for any intelligent replies
>
> I have tried his methods and found them extremely
> effective.There are several areas in particular I found
> useful.
>
> He teaches you and the dog to pay attention to each other
> all the time. He teaches you to have such good communication
> with your dog you don't need leash corrections or shock
> collars or even food, you can get the dogs attention any
> time you like by calling it or with a snap of your fingers.
>
> When I trained both my dogs to "heel" or walk close to me I
> ended up going to the parks and teaching them without a lead
> at all, that ensured I had to use good communication and was
> unable to be tempted to use the lead to correct them.
>
> Another part of the training I agree with is not using the
> "policeman" approach, where you tell a dog "no" or react
> with it in such a way that you become involved
> in the behaviour (by trying to stop it), this approach
> often results in a dog ceasing the behaviour when you are
> about but doing it when you aren't (bin raiding, counter
> surfing etc).
>
> Basically you are taught to make your dog a good friend who
> likes and wants to work for you for the pleasure of working
> for you (setting the hierarchy is included in this), teach
> it to recall reliably, then to do everything else (sit, stay
> down etc etc).
>
> Unwanted behaviours are addressed as they occur. If you
> understand what you are trying to achieve and are prepared
> to work with it you can get great results.
>
> Paul
===============================
> -----Original Message----- From: Don Fitz
> [mailto:donfitz69@hotmail.com] Sent: Friday, 28 February
> 2003 11:53 a.m. To: Amanda.DeleteThis@DCFWatch.com;
> paulbousie.DeleteThis@clear.net.nz Subject: Jerry Howe
>
> Hi,
>
> Jerry uses your email in his posts and I was wondering what
> you have to say of his training methods.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Bousie"
<paulbousie.DeleteThis@clear.net.nz> To: "'Don Fitz'"
<donfitz69.DeleteThis@hotmail.com>; <Amanda.DeleteThis@DCFWatch.com> Cc:
<jhowe2.DeleteThis@bellsouth.net> Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2003 5:45 AM
Subject: RE: Jerry Howe
> If you have read the newsgroup posts then you must already
> have a good idea about what I think.
>
> His methods are the best I have come across.
>
> They aren't a quick fix but an entire training concept so
> if you aren't in for the long haul then don't bother. If
> you go his way then you have to forget all the other
> gibberish that other people spew, you have to believe in
> what you are doing, then and only then will you get the
> results.
>
> You can't combine his methods with other training methods,
> not until you understand what you are trying to achieve, and
> even then I have only ever combined about 2 other trainers
> ideas and even then just a snip of what they suggest which
> works in parallel with the Wits End concept.
>
> His methods make you as the trainer completely responsible
> for your actions, his methods make you think and work out
> your own solutions for any given situation, the default (the
> recall) is always there to get things under control again.
> His ideas and concepts teach you to work with the dog, to
> develop a team and a willingness to work together which is
> surely the best way to be. His methods don't use force or
> intimidation but they do totally emphasize the absolute
> importance of pack (family pack) structure, without that you
> can achieve almost nothing.
>
> If you are wondering how a dog can be trained without any
> negativity the answer lies in the recall, anytime your dog
> doesn't follow through with a request you call him / her to
> you, since the recall is the first thing taught and it is
> taught in such a way it becomes a reflex the dog always
> returns to you, it is a subordinate position for the dog and
> we release it by asking for a "heel" which is an "equal"
> position.
>
> His methods are very good, his understanding of dogs is
> excellent, I recommend his methods.
>
> Paul Bousie
==============================
"Linda" <llindaleedaniel.DeleteThis@msn.com> wrote in message
news:3c317fe4.0302091951.7215c6f7@posting.google.com...
I have posted about my dog Sunshine before who was aggressive
to all people and dogs until I found and used the Wits End
Training methods.
He is now great--can go any where and he is fine with people
and dog even when they get in his face on a flexi lead! He
still had problem with stress that was making him scratch him
self raw in places--he nose has had a sore for the last month.
We started using the Doggy Do Right and his nose was almost
healed when the machine went off. The next day he was
scratching and opened the sore on his nose again.
Twelve hours after I turned it back on he quit scratching and
his nose is healing again. The machine does work.
I have two barking dogs behind me that have reduced their
barking a lot. In fact when we were out walking one them came
over to visit and the owner did not notice he was gone since
he did not bark at us as he usually did.
The Wits End Training Method works, the problems I have had
are the result I having trouble breaking my old patterns.
My dog got it fast but kept getting confused when I had
trouble getting the commands together. I always thought I
used praise but I really did not until I started using the
Wits End Method of sound and praise. In the past it took a lot
of treats to get him to do something--now I have been able to
teach him several things like pull the laundry basket with
just praise. He really likes it better I think and does not
seem to miss the treats for jobs.
If you have problem with your dog try the Wits End Method--it
is free and it works and it improves your relationship. So
much of dog training is force and using pain to get a dog to
do something that a method that works and does not rely on
pain, force, or "corrections" is wonderful for both owner and
dog. Don't think something that is free can not be good
because I have spent more hours and more thousands of dollars
than I though possible in the three years with Sunshine and
nothing helped until I found the Wits End Method of sound and
praise.
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--- Original Message ----- From: Paul Bousie To: The Puppy
Wizard Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 8:00 AM Subject: Geday.
Hey J,
I see nothings changed on the NG. Still the same old crappy
advice and misunderstanding of the only advice worth reading.
The problem with your method J is that I can't answer the
questions on the NG no more, people are after a quick fix,
they don't want to understand that dog training requires a
disiplined method, I'm now really understanding that they are
all result orientated, they want the dog to sit, to down, to
stay, to come, to stop it's "bad" behaviours, they want to
stamp out each anxiety one at a time not realising they create
a new one as they deal with the last.
I feel sorry for them, they don't understand, they don't even
realise the errors of thier ways and they arn't self thinkers,
they follow the majority, after all if everyone says thats the
way then it must be. I've finally realised people don't want
to learn to train dogs they want a trained dog, they want a
little puppet that sits and stays and downs and does all the
nice doggy stuff or so they think, then when the dog acts like
a dog they come squealing to the NG asking how to stop the dog
being a dog.
I have a nice little visulisation of a dogs mind that I think
demonstrates the way we approach dog training. Imagine lots of
little circles all in a cluster, each one representing a dog
anxiety or behaviour ( desied or not), each circle represents
something about the dog, all of them create what a dog is.
The traditional way to train a dog is to stamp out the "bad"
circles, try to eliminate as many as you can, problem is each
one you stamp out another takes it's place (anxiety circles
can't be destroyed they just change), obviously it's a futile
exercise, but thats the traditional way.
Now imagine a big circle that completely surrounds all the
small circles, this big circle is the whole dog, that's what
we get hold of with all the little circles inside, we don't
see the little circles we see the BIG circle the macro as you
put it and use that to train.
I laugh now when I see posts critisising you, they are
critising something they don't even understand or even have
the capacity to understand.
See ya,
Paul
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HOWEDY Disciple Paulie,
"Paul B" <abcde.DeleteThis@clear.net.nz> wrote in message
news:3fffd5ba@clear.net.nz...
>
> "culprit" <kelly_marsops.DeleteThis@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:btnkbk$9a35v$1@ID-58739.news.uni-berlin.de...
> >
> > so you trust someone you know nothing about,
Sez a certified MENTAL CASE...
> > someone you found on the internet,
Like HOWE you fHOWEND The Puppy Wizard, eh Disciple Paulie?
> > more than a professional dog trainer?
BWEEEAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!
She means a professional DOG ABUSER.
> > how odd.
Ain't it QUEER.
> > -kelly
BWEEEAHAHAHHAAAA!!!
> Not odd really, if you trust your instincts and have the
> confidence to try some thing that you believe in and can
> relate to.
Oh? Well THAT'S the PROBLEM here abHOWETS
Disciple Paulie. We got LIARS DOG ABUSERS
THUGS PUNKS COWARDS and MENTAL CASES
who WANT to HURT and KILL dogs and get HOWET
callin THAT, trainin.
> I tried 4 pro trainers,
Yeah... didn't do much good. Your dogs had a boatload of
problems when we first met here.
> non of them "connected" with me, I found more "direction" on
> the net than any trainer provided me,
That's on accHOWENT of there ain't no other trainer who's got
a proven effective method, EXXXCEPT The Puppy Wizard.
> I learnt to think through my own solutions and
> learnt to really communicate with the dogs, the pro trainers
> were really only interested in getting "results"
And THAT'S HOWE COME their dogs FLUNK 10%
of the time, MINIMUM, GUARANTEED. See The
Puppy Wizard's post "Misbehavior Of Organisms."
That'll EXXXPLAIN HOWE COME the BEHAVIORISTS
can't TRAIN a critter CONSISTENTLY 100% EFFECTIVELY
and withHOWET HURTIN THEM.
> so I'd think my hard earned cash was well spent,
When you first met The Puppy Wizard your dogs were escaping
your yard and doin lots of stuff you needed to work on.
> where as on the Net I learnt to think things through and
> achieve a communication with the dogs.
And nHOWE you NEVER got to tell them NO.
> It doesn't matter that you know nothing about
> someone, if you you have half a brain
Well that'd be overly generHOWES here abHOWETS.
> what you read of them will soon tell you if they know their
> subject.
Let's talk abHOWET SAR dogs and lying "I LOVE
KOEHLER" lynn's past history of RETIRING her
SAR dog before ever WORKIN in SAR cause SHE
HURT HER DOG and he got WIZE to the fact that
she could HURT him in the ring where he got high
scores but COULDN'T HURT HIM on a REAL LIFE
SAR site cause she doesn't know where the FIND
is so she don't know WHEN TO HURT HIM.
> Paul
The Puppy Wizard. <{} ; ~ ) >
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