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Handsome Jack Morrison

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(Msg. 16) Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 3:51 pm
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On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 15:51:58 +0000 (UTC), Shelly
<scouvrette DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote:

>That's the part I hate! I can't stand watching people be *that*
>clueless in public.

Very strange remarks, coming from a devout member of the
"reality-based" community.

Heh.

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(Msg. 17) Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 4:07 pm
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montana wildhack <montana.RemoveThis@wildhack.com.invalid> wrote in
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> I see you do not wish to partake in the "thank goodness there is
> someone who is more clueless than I can dream of being" portion of
> the event...

That's part of the problem. Watching people be more clueless than me
is horrify, not entertaining.

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(Msg. 18) Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 8:09 pm
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montana wildhack <montana.DeleteThis@wildhack.com.invalid> said in
rec.pets.dogs.behavior:

> My understanding is that Bark Busters comes to your home,
> assesses the situation and talks with owners about a
> variety of subjects. They use techniques like noise
> distractions (they have a version of a "penny can") and the
> growling or making noises at your dog are probably similar
> to Millan's "tsst". They give owners a homework chart and
> training handouts.

The main thing which struck me as odd about BB was their
instruction to the owner to growl at the dog. This is not a
sound distraction.

> I have no idea what they do about follow-up visits.

It's supposed to be unlimited, but I understand that these folk
had problems getting appointments past the first follow-up.
It's a franchise, so mileage may vary.

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(Msg. 19) Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 8:15 pm
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Janet Boss <janet DeleteThis @bestfriendsdogobedience.com> said in
rec.pets.dogs.behavior:

> I prefer my in-home behavior counseling. I tend to feel
> like a broken record when running Basic classes (not so
> with my puppy classes). The in-home is so much more
> intensive and that pays off for the more challenging dogs
> (and people) big time.

How about "regular" classes - as in not puppy or extraordinary
behaviour issues? My experience is that, especially with first-
time dog owners, people don't know what they don't know and are
reluctant to ask "stupid" questions. In group classes, there's
always someone willing to stick their foot in the water and the
questions flow from there.

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(Msg. 20) Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 9:49 pm
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In article <Fri9A1586CACC46Caustralianshepherdca RemoveThis @rocky-dog.com>,
Rocky <3dogs RemoveThis @rocky-dog.com> wrote:

>
> How about "regular" classes - as in not puppy or extraordinary
> behaviour issues? My experience is that, especially with first-
> time dog owners, people don't know what they don't know and are
> reluctant to ask "stupid" questions. In group classes, there's
> always someone willing to stick their foot in the water and the
> questions flow from there.

You're right - getting people to feel that they aren't alone in their
problems is a big step. Every session is a bit different, but there is
usually someone that can be drawn out, prompting others.

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(Msg. 21) Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 1:40 pm
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"montana wildhack" <montana.RemoveThis@wildhack.com.invalid> wrote in message
> Bark Busters - and Millan for that matter - offer the promise of a quick
> fix.

*****The best outcome is when people become interested in working
> with their dogs****

, but there are obviously a lot of bad outcomes for
> dopey humans and their dogs.


This is it. I just don't understand how ppl can even *think* about having a
dog without being 'interested'in working WITH them....totally unfathomable
to me and, I'll bet 100% of us here. Where do these dopey hooomins come from
anyway?

They give and give and give us so much without asking for much.

Mare and Da Smiff Den
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(Msg. 22) Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 2:47 pm
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(Msg. 23) Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 3:06 pm
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"montana wildhack" <montana.DeleteThis@wildhack.com.invalid> wrote in message:

> I see a dog on tv that I want. I get that kind of dog and it acts just
> like the dog I saw on tv. Kind of like a fridge.

Bottom line is that people want what they want, and there is often not any
thought given to just what the dog might want and what is in the best
interest of the dog.

We have a couple with their two young children coming to the dog park with
their lab puppy for the past two months. The kids are 4 and 6, and play
around the dog park while mom or dad (if only one of them came) is inside,
supervising the dog. The kids are wonderful and imaginative. I've never
once heard them complain that they're cold or hungry or bored (and I've
heard that from other kids a thousand times). They have castles and dragons
and dungeons and all sorts of wonderful stuff going on in their little
thicket where they play. I told the mom that I was very impressed with the
kids, about how wonderfully well behaved they were. Then, someone else
chimed in about how she's seen them out and about, running with the dog, and
how well behaved the kids are. The mom very succinctly put it as 'The dog
needs to run, I need the exercise, and so do the kids, so we do it all in
one shot'. Kids ride bikes while mom runs with the dog.

I am so used to people saying how they have no time for exercising their
dog, so it's nice to see someone being so practical about it. She
identified needs and then did something about it.

Suja
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(Msg. 24) Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 3:06 pm
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In article <5v1tbsF1jukqtU1.TakeThisOut@mid.individual.net>,
"Suja" <spanaval.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote:

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> I am so used to people saying how they have no time for exercising their
> dog, so it's nice to see someone being so practical about it. She
> identified needs and then did something about it.

Amazing, isn't it? She is going to have a great dog. Good parents make
good dog owners. The principles are much the same and people who get
it, get it for all beings.

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(Msg. 25) Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 3:57 pm
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"Janet Boss" <janet.RemoveThis@bestfriendsdogobedience.com> wrote in message:

> Amazing, isn't it? She is going to have a great dog.

I really hope so. The pup is a real pistol, the kind of dog that would be
easy to fail, so I'm really happy they are being proactive about meeting her
needs. They did puppy kindergarden and are moving into basic obedience,
which is also a very good sign.

Suja
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