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(Msg. 1) Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 7:21 am
Post subject: Changing careers, becoming a trainer
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A NY Times article on people who do that:
Finding a dog owner nursing daydreams of becoming a
trainer has become about as difficult as finding a
waiter with a headshot.
In recent years, more people than ever have started
teaching dogs their ps and qs. One reason is that dog
training has received its close-up on at least a
half-dozen television shows, including Its Me or the
Dog on the Animal Planet network and Cesar Millans
hugely popular Dog Whisperer on the National Geographic
Channel.
Another reason is that todays dog owners have higher
expectations for their pets and so enlist professional
help more readily than in yesteryear. In some cases,
they do so to tame a behaviorally challenged animal
adopted from a shelter; in others, because they want
their expensive pure-bred dogs to have manners Emily
Post would approve of.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/27/fashion/27DOGS.html
I'd never heard of Bark Busters before. Yikes.
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 7:43 am
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 10:46 am
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In article <fl06ll$re0$1@registered.motzarella.org>,
Shelly <shelly.RemoveThis@cat-sidh.net> wrote:
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> Wow. I guess Leah is in good company!
I would say that most dog trainers started out that way (not Leah's way,
but the way described in the article - people who have been successful
with their own dogs)- hooked on training their own dog and had the
desire to learn more and do more. I would venture to say that there are
many careers that happen the same way, through formal or informal
apprenticeships and/or self-teaching.
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> > I'd never heard of Bark Busters before. Yikes.
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> My recollection is that they started in Australia, but now they're
> pretty much everywhere. There's a franchise in southern Indiana,
> even. I get the impression that they're maybe a step up from
> Petsmart, but how big a step, I don't know.
I see them advertised around here, but have never heard of any of their
trainers. There is definitely a glut of trainers around everywhere
though, and I think that at some point, the bad ones fail and get weeded
out and the ones that produce results keep thriving. OTOH, with the
chain stores, people seem willing to buy almost anything, so as long as
those trainers are pawned off on the public, they'll stay employed. Not
exactly at big money, but technically employed as trainers.
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 10:54 am
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In article <janet-3BA53D.10465527122007 DeleteThis @news.individual.net>,
Janet Boss <janet DeleteThis @bestfriendsdogobedience.com> wrote:
>OTOH, with the
>chain stores, people seem willing to buy almost anything, so as long as
>those trainers are pawned off on the public, they'll stay employed. Not
>exactly at big money, but technically employed as trainers.
As I recall from Leah's description, the major part of the
job of a Petsmart trainer is selling the classes to Petsmart
customers. But still, as compromised as their vetting and
trainer education program is, at least it's something. It
sounds as if with Bark Busters all you have to do is to buy
a franchise, and suddenly you're a dog trainer with a brand
name.
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 11:45 am
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 3:40 pm
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"Melinda Shore" <shore.RemoveThis@panix.com> wrote in message
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> A NY Times article on people who do that:
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> Finding a dog owner nursing daydreams of becoming a
> trainer has become about as difficult as finding a
> waiter with a headshot.
>
> In recent years, more people than ever have started
> teaching dogs their ps and qs. One reason is that dog
> training has received its close-up on at least a
> half-dozen television shows, including Its Me or the
> Dog on the Animal Planet network and Cesar Millans
> hugely popular Dog Whisperer on the National Geographic
> Channel.
>
> Another reason is that todays dog owners have higher
> expectations for their pets and so enlist professional
> help more readily than in yesteryear. In some cases,
> they do so to tame a behaviorally challenged animal
> adopted from a shelter; in others, because they want
> their expensive pure-bred dogs to have manners Emily
> Post would approve of.
>
> http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/27/fashion/27DOGS.html
>
> I'd never heard of Bark Busters before. Yikes.
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> Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis - shore.RemoveThis@panix.com
>
> Prouder than ever to be a member of the reality-based community
Someone posted here asking for help on Oct 1, 2007. He had used Bark
Busters and wasn't impressed with their service
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 4:21 am
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shore RemoveThis @panix.com (Melinda Shore) said in rec.pets.dogs.behavior:
> I'd never heard of Bark Busters before. Yikes.
I've mentioned my second-hand experience with Barkbusters. I
was not impressed as to how the owners started growling at their
dog. I heard later that their nice GR (who I'd never had
problems with) finally bit one of the owners.
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 9:39 am
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 9:45 am
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In article <2007122909395975249-montana@wildhackcominvalid>,
montana wildhack <montana RemoveThis @wildhack.com.invalid> wrote:
>All the other pitfalls of finding a trainer that owners can work with
>are in place.
What pops out at me is that it seems to provide a shortcut
to becoming a dog trainer by selling franchises and
providing what appears to be fairly minimal education. I
really don't think dog training is the kind of thing in
which you can shortcut your preparation, since it involves
being able to see and interpret some fairly subtle behaviors
on the part of the dog. I wasn't that surprised by Matt's
story.
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 9:46 am
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In article <2007122909395975249-montana@wildhackcominvalid>,
montana wildhack <montana DeleteThis @wildhack.com.invalid> wrote:
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> The home visit is attractive because you're likely to have all the
> humans together for asessment. It is difficult to get a whole family to
> show up for classes.
I prefer my in-home behavior counseling. I tend to feel like a broken
record when running Basic classes (not so with my puppy classes). The
in-home is so much more intensive and that pays off for the more
challenging dogs (and people) big time.
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 9:52 am
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 9:57 am
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In article <2007122909525643658-montana@wildhackcominvalid>,
montana wildhack <montana DeleteThis @wildhack.com.invalid> wrote:
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> For one thing, most trainers have NO idea how dogs act at home, and I
> think that's crucial to any behavior modification (humans and canines).
How the people act at home is even more telling! Family dynamics can be
pretty bizarre sometimes.
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 10:50 am
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 3:51 pm
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