Cat not drinking water

"Claude V. Lucas" <claudel.RemoveThis@sonic.net> wrote in message
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> Upscale <upscale.RemoveThis@teksavvy.com> wrote:
>>"Claude V. Lucas" <claudel.RemoveThis@sonic.net> wrote in message
>>>
>>> do something else. On the occasions when I pick him up and carry him
>>> outside he immediately goes into full drama queen mode and acts as
>>> if I'm sticking pins in him or something. He has a special "outdoor"
>>> howl that he uses for these occasions.
>>
>>Har, that's funny. In a reverse role, I'm planning on taking my three year
>>old Deetoo out for recreation trips this coming summer. Only other times
>>she's been out is when she's been in her cat carry bag while I roll down
>>the
>>street to her annual vet examination.
>>
>>Currently, I've been putting a halter on Deetoo and she wears it around
>>the
>>apartment for several hours without complaint. Next I'll attach a leash to
>>the halter and walk her a little bit in the apartment hallways. The final
>>part will be when I take her over to a friend's house and tie the leash to
>>a
>>stake in the ground and see how she likes the green grass. If she weathers
>>that experience without too much complaint, I'll see about expanding
>>outings
>>for her in the future.
>>
>>And to the comment a previous poster made, most cat inside/outside
>>comments
>>are talking in absolutes. I agree with that assessment. If I lived in a
>>house in some rural area or perhaps a farm, I'd let my cat out. But, not
>>when I'm living in the middle of a city with 3 zillion cars zipping by and
>>minimal trees and grass to be found.
>>
>>
>>
>
> I once thought about trying to accomodate Bubba to a harness for outside
> walks, but 25Lbs of howling and wiggling panic on a leash doesn't seem
> like that good of an idea.
>
> There isn't much car trafic where I live and there is a 15 MPH
> speed limit that is observed my most. The worst danger to cats
> in my neighborhood is the occasional escaped Jack Russell.
>
> I got Bubba from the pound, and it really seems as if he
> has had a bad outdoor experience in the past somewhere.
> I've never seen an animal throw such a fit as when I
> take him outside. Even when I hold him he goes into
> total panic. If he was inclined to scratch or bite
> he'd tear me up....

Mine Winter in the house, but spend their Summers outside on the deck, on
the roof, and/or in the driveway......I protect them with two traffic cones
during the Summer. (from delivery trucks who might use the driveway to turn
around on my one-way street)
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"AMUN" <spamblocker.RemoveThis@dumbaswisconsincows.net> wrote in message
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>>>
>>> "William Graham" <weg9.RemoveThis@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>> I know mine wouldn't be happier inside, because I am too lazy to cater
>>>> to them they way I would have to were they inside cats.....
>>>
>>> Therein lies the truth. Take your cats to a shelter where they might
>>> find
>>> a home with someone who can be bothered to take care of them.
>>>
>> William and Ivor are two ignorant peas in a very dysfunctional pod.
>> Cats are good judges of character, these two don't make the cut.
>
>
> Funny thread.
>
> I know several people who "indoor" their cats, and at least one let theirs
> out accidentally, and never saw it again.
> They swore that same arguments I see here about letting it out once and it
> dies.
>
> When the truth probably was that once the cat finally got a chance to get
> away, it probably still hasn't stopped running, is now happy, has a
> family, and a good job.
>
> Cats free to come and go outdoors , return because they want to.
>
> Cats held captive, will always run when they get a chance.
>
Cats "held captive"?? Hmmm, that's an odd way of putting it; how does one
know if a cat is being "held captive" or if its actually happier being
indoors? Does the fact that it doesn't run for the door every time it's open
mean that it's happy indoors? Or does that just mean that it's never been
outside before and is treading carefully when it gets a whiff of all the new
smells and hears all the new sounds? Could it possibly not run because,
while it likes the outdoors because it's been out there, it had a bad
experience so it's not in a hurry to go back out? How do you KNOW whether a
cat is happy indoors or out?

Pookie
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>> "Professor" <vzey7sgz.RemoveThis@verizon.net> wrote in message
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>>>>
>>>> "William Graham" <weg9.RemoveThis@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>> I know mine wouldn't be happier inside, because I am too lazy to cater
>>>>> to them they way I would have to were they inside cats.....
>>>>
>>>> Therein lies the truth. Take your cats to a shelter where they might
>>>> find
>>>> a home with someone who can be bothered to take care of them.
>>>>
>>> William and Ivor are two ignorant peas in a very dysfunctional pod.
>>> Cats are good judges of character, these two don't make the cut.
>>
>>
>> Funny thread.
>>
>> I know several people who "indoor" their cats, and at least one let
>> theirs out accidentally, and never saw it again.
>> They swore that same arguments I see here about letting it out once and
>> it dies.
>>
>> When the truth probably was that once the cat finally got a chance to get
>> away, it probably still hasn't stopped running, is now happy, has a
>> family, and a good job.
>>
>> Cats free to come and go outdoors , return because they want to.
>>
>> Cats held captive, will always run when they get a chance.
>>
> Cats "held captive"?? Hmmm, that's an odd way of putting it; how does one
> know if a cat is being "held captive" or if its actually happier being
> indoors? Does the fact that it doesn't run for the door every time it's
> open mean that it's happy indoors? Or does that just mean that it's never
> been outside before and is treading carefully when it gets a whiff of all
> the new smells and hears all the new sounds? Could it possibly not run
> because, while it likes the outdoors because it's been out there, it had a
> bad experience so it's not in a hurry to go back out? How do you KNOW
> whether a cat is happy indoors or out?

You don't know. Cats are curious, and they can't stand not being able to
satisfy their curiosity.....Try keeping your indoor cats out of a particular
room or closet. They will kill to get in there, even it there is nothing
there that they want or like. This another reason why I have "outside cats".
I can't spend all my time policing the entrances and exits from my large
house. The truth of the matter is that my cats never go anywhere but the
roof and porch, because they really don't want to go anywhere else. And all
I have to do to achieve this is to not worry about them getting out.
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"AMUN" <spamblocker DeleteThis @dumbaswisconsincows.net> wrote in message
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>>> "William Graham" <weg9 DeleteThis @comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>> I know mine wouldn't be happier inside, because I am too lazy to cater
>>>> to them they way I would have to were they inside cats.....
>>>
>>> Therein lies the truth. Take your cats to a shelter where they might
>>> find
>>> a home with someone who can be bothered to take care of them.
>>>
>> William and Ivor are two ignorant peas in a very dysfunctional pod.
>> Cats are good judges of character, these two don't make the cut.
>
> Funny thread.
> I know several people who "indoor" their cats, and at least one let theirs
> out accidentally, and never saw it again.
> They swore that same arguments I see here about letting it out once and it
> dies.
> When the truth probably was that once the cat finally got a chance to get
> away, it probably still hasn't stopped running, is now happy, has a
> family, and a good job.
> Cats free to come and go outdoors , return because they want to.
> Cats held captive, will always run when they get a chance.
>
"AMUN" is a nutcase who hates all non-zionists. He's tracked me here to
flame me, but you can see how whacked in the head he is. He has a short
attention span, he'll lose interest soon enough.
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"Upscale" <upscale.DeleteThis@teksavvy.com> wrote in message
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> "AMUN" <spamblocker.DeleteThis@dumbaswisconsincows.net> wrote in message
>> Cats free to come and go outdoors , return because they want to.
>> Cats held captive, will always run when they get a chance.
>
> You're a flaming idiot. Saying that they run is giving them human
> attributes. Cats are curious creatures and want to get outside just
> because
> it's some place they've never been and so they go looking around. It's
> like
> any five year old child who chases a butterfly, becomes lost and can't
> find
> its way back. Only difference is that a cat usually has enough natural
> instincts to survive away from home. A cat new to the outside can easily
> got
> lost and not be able to find it's way back home. That's not running. It's
> called being in a completely unfamiliar environment without any reference
> point to get home.
>

Ya, and I suppose you still believe in the easter bunny too.
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"Professor" <vzey7sgz.DeleteThis@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> "AMUN" <spamblocker.DeleteThis@dumbaswisconsincows.net> wrote in message
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>> "Professor" <vzey7sgz.DeleteThis@verizon.net> wrote in message
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>>>> "William Graham" <weg9.DeleteThis@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>> I know mine wouldn't be happier inside, because I am too lazy to cater
>>>>> to them they way I would have to were they inside cats.....
>>>>
>>>> Therein lies the truth. Take your cats to a shelter where they might
>>>> find
>>>> a home with someone who can be bothered to take care of them.
>>>>
>>> William and Ivor are two ignorant peas in a very dysfunctional pod.
>>> Cats are good judges of character, these two don't make the cut.
>>
>> Funny thread.
>> I know several people who "indoor" their cats, and at least one let
>> theirs out accidentally, and never saw it again.
>> They swore that same arguments I see here about letting it out once and
>> it dies.
>> When the truth probably was that once the cat finally got a chance to get
>> away, it probably still hasn't stopped running, is now happy, has a
>> family, and a good job.
>> Cats free to come and go outdoors , return because they want to.
>> Cats held captive, will always run when they get a chance.
>>
> "AMUN" is a nutcase who hates all non-zionists. He's tracked me here to
> flame me, but you can see how whacked in the head he is. He has a short
> attention span, he'll lose interest soon enough.


Oh ho,....you know I tracked you down here.
I have to admit, you threw me off when you wore the tinfoil hat for a few
months, and I couldn't read your brainwaves.
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"AMUN" <spamblocker.TakeThisOut@dumbaswisconsincows.net> wrote in message
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> "Professor" <vzey7sgz.TakeThisOut@verizon.net> wrote in message
..>>>
>> "AMUN" is a nutcase who hates all non-zionists. He's tracked me here to
>> flame me, but you can see how whacked in the head he is. He has a short
>> attention span, he'll lose interest soon enough.
> Oh ho,....you know I tracked you down here.
> I have to admit, you threw me off when you wore the tinfoil hat for a few
> months, and I couldn't read your brainwaves.
>
>
Can you say killfile? I knew you could.
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"Professor" <vzey7sgz RemoveThis @verizon.net> wrote in message
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> "AMUN" <spamblocker RemoveThis @dumbaswisconsincows.net> wrote in message
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>> "Professor" <vzey7sgz RemoveThis @verizon.net> wrote in message
> .>>>
>>> "AMUN" is a nutcase who hates all non-zionists. He's tracked me here to
>>> flame me, but you can see how whacked in the head he is. He has a short
>>> attention span, he'll lose interest soon enough.
>> Oh ho,....you know I tracked you down here.
>> I have to admit, you threw me off when you wore the tinfoil hat for a few
>> months, and I couldn't read your brainwaves.
>>
>>
> Can you say killfile? I knew you could.
>


I usually do rudely killfile 12 year old troll wannabees, but tend to be a
more bit lenient towards the mentally handicapped.
That you seem to think anyone is actually stalking you, puts you firmly in
the latter group.

But I do have to ask.
Do you have little tinfoil hats you put on your cat as well ?
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"Claude V. Lucas" <claudel.TakeThisOut@sonic.net> wrote in message
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> In article <aa493$480b9697$cef88bc5$935@TEKSAVVY.COM>,
> Upscale <upscale.TakeThisOut@teksavvy.com> wrote:
>>
>>"AMUN" <spamblocker.TakeThisOut@dumbaswisconsincows.net> wrote in message
>>> Cats free to come and go outdoors , return because they want to.
>>> Cats held captive, will always run when they get a chance.
>>
>>You're a flaming idiot. Saying that they run is giving them human
>>attributes. Cats are curious creatures and want to get outside just
>>because
>>it's some place they've never been and so they go looking around. It's
>>like
>>any five year old child who chases a butterfly, becomes lost and can't
>>find
>>its way back. Only difference is that a cat usually has enough natural
>>instincts to survive away from home. A cat new to the outside can easily
>>got
>>lost and not be able to find it's way back home. That's not running. It's
>>called being in a completely unfamiliar environment without any reference
>>point to get home.
>>
>>
>
>
> And for a different point of view, Bubba the Maine Coon absolutely
> refuses to go outside. I leave the door open, weather permitting,
> and he'll occasionally look out for a moment, then turn around and
> do something else. On the occasions when I pick him up and carry him
> outside he immediately goes into full drama queen mode and acts as
> if I'm sticking pins in him or something. He has a special "outdoor"
> howl that he uses for these occasions. If I set him down, he sets a
> land speed record getting back inside. If the door is closed he sits
> and howls at the door until someone opens it and lets him in.

All of mine are that way too. After hurricane Rita we were without
electricity for over a day and had to leave all the windows and doors open
just to get a little breeze and not bake to death. All of my cats walked in
wide circles around the open doors afraid the scary "out" would get them.

Hugs,

CatNipped
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In article <676qhkF2n68q4U1.TakeThisOut@mid.individual.net>,
CatNipped <CatNipped.TakeThisOut@PossiblePlaces.com> wrote:
>"Claude V. Lucas" <claudel.TakeThisOut@sonic.net> wrote in message
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>> In article <aa493$480b9697$cef88bc5$935@TEKSAVVY.COM>,
>> Upscale <upscale.TakeThisOut@teksavvy.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>"AMUN" <spamblocker.TakeThisOut@dumbaswisconsincows.net> wrote in message
>>>> Cats free to come and go outdoors , return because they want to.
>>>> Cats held captive, will always run when they get a chance.
>>>
>>>You're a flaming idiot. Saying that they run is giving them human
>>>attributes. Cats are curious creatures and want to get outside just
>>>because
>>>it's some place they've never been and so they go looking around. It's
>>>like
>>>any five year old child who chases a butterfly, becomes lost and can't
>>>find
>>>its way back. Only difference is that a cat usually has enough natural
>>>instincts to survive away from home. A cat new to the outside can easily
>>>got
>>>lost and not be able to find it's way back home. That's not running. It's
>>>called being in a completely unfamiliar environment without any reference
>>>point to get home.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> And for a different point of view, Bubba the Maine Coon absolutely
>> refuses to go outside. I leave the door open, weather permitting,
>> and he'll occasionally look out for a moment, then turn around and
>> do something else. On the occasions when I pick him up and carry him
>> outside he immediately goes into full drama queen mode and acts as
>> if I'm sticking pins in him or something. He has a special "outdoor"
>> howl that he uses for these occasions. If I set him down, he sets a
>> land speed record getting back inside. If the door is closed he sits
>> and howls at the door until someone opens it and lets him in.
>
>All of mine are that way too. After hurricane Rita we were without
>electricity for over a day and had to leave all the windows and doors open
>just to get a little breeze and not bake to death. All of my cats walked in
>wide circles around the open doors afraid the scary "out" would get them.
>

He'll sit in the doorway and look out for a minute or two.

I wish I had a recording of Bubba's outdoor howl.

It's an amazing combination of "NNNNNOOOOOO" and "OOOOOOOWWWWWWWW"

I can even put food outside and he won't go out for it.

With Bubba, that's really saying something.
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