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dyork

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 5:59 pm
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I was looking at my birds in their nest right outside my front door and
"Precious" the cat from next door just now found them. I went out there and
shooed her away. Then I got some of my hot pepper spray that I used for my
squirrels (which never worked) and sprayed around the top of the huge pot
that the nest is in. I thought maybe "Precious" would not find the little
birds, but she did. I know we can't keep an eye on the little baby birds all
the time and the cat will probably kill it.
Any other suggestions?

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 6:50 pm
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"dyork" <dyork.TakeThisOut@carolina.rr.com> wrote in message
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>I was looking at my birds in their nest right outside my front door and
>"Precious" the cat from next door just now found them. I went out there and
>shooed her away. Then I got some of my hot pepper spray that I used for my
>squirrels (which never worked) and sprayed around the top of the huge pot
>that the nest is in. I thought maybe "Precious" would not find the little
>birds, but she did. I know we can't keep an eye on the little baby birds
>all the time and the cat will probably kill it.
> Any other suggestions?
Precious should be dead meat!

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Dick R.

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 8:56 pm
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3Putt from CoastalSouth Carolina wrote:
> "dyork" <dyork DeleteThis @carolina.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:4697f82d$0$16539$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>
>>I was looking at my birds in their nest right outside my front door and
>>"Precious" the cat from next door just now found them. I went out there and
>>shooed her away. Then I got some of my hot pepper spray that I used for my
>>squirrels (which never worked) and sprayed around the top of the huge pot
>>that the nest is in. I thought maybe "Precious" would not find the little
>>birds, but she did. I know we can't keep an eye on the little baby birds
>>all the time and the cat will probably kill it.
>>Any other suggestions?
>
> Precious should be dead meat!
>
I like cats, but let me be more specific; indoor cats and those who are
confined to a back yard. The same would apply to other animals (except for
Lassie when he/she goes out on the sidewalk to retrieve the newspaper).
People who let cats or any other animal roam around the neighborhood
are not well informed, and I don't think you can reason with them.
Best solution for "Precious" is to blast him/her (.22 or shotgun
would work), bury him/her, and when the neighbors ask if you've seen
precious, you can just say "not lately".

Dick R. in Apple Valley, Minnesota USA
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Lanny Chambers

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 2:02 am
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In article <4697f82d$0$16539$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>,
"dyork" <dyork.RemoveThis@carolina.rr.com> wrote:

> I know we can't keep an eye on the little baby birds all
> the time and the cat will probably kill it.
> Any other suggestions?

Try to get the cat's owner to keep it indoors, at least until the chicks
are flying well. Sharing this with your neighbor may help:

http://www.abcbirds.org/cats/
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 8:01 am
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Sad News...Precious got the little baby birds last night. I got up this
morning and opened the front door, looked out at the nest and the tunnel was
sitting up straight and the baby birds were gone.
Even if I would have asked my neighbors to keep their cat indoors, it
wouldn't have helped. They also have a dog that they seem to love more, it
stays indoors.
Next time the birds start to build their nest in either pot, I'll have to
stop them before they get started.


"Lanny Chambers" <lanny DeleteThis @hummingbirds.net> wrote in message
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> In article <4697f82d$0$16539$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>,
> "dyork" <dyork DeleteThis @carolina.rr.com> wrote:
>
>> I know we can't keep an eye on the little baby birds all
>> the time and the cat will probably kill it.
>> Any other suggestions?
>
> Try to get the cat's owner to keep it indoors, at least until the chicks
> are flying well. Sharing this with your neighbor may help:
>
> http://www.abcbirds.org/cats/
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 8:06 am
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Were you serious about killing the cat and burying her and not letting the
neighbors know?

Donna/N.C.





"Dick R." <dickr.TakeThisOut@visi.com> wrote in message
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> 3Putt from CoastalSouth Carolina wrote:
>> "dyork" <dyork.TakeThisOut@carolina.rr.com> wrote in message
>> news:4697f82d$0$16539$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>>
>>>I was looking at my birds in their nest right outside my front door and
>>>"Precious" the cat from next door just now found them. I went out there
>>>and shooed her away. Then I got some of my hot pepper spray that I used
>>>for my squirrels (which never worked) and sprayed around the top of the
>>>huge pot that the nest is in. I thought maybe "Precious" would not find
>>>the little birds, but she did. I know we can't keep an eye on the little
>>>baby birds all the time and the cat will probably kill it.
>>>Any other suggestions?
>>
>> Precious should be dead meat!
> I like cats, but let me be more specific; indoor cats and those who are
> confined to a back yard. The same would apply to other animals (except for
> Lassie when he/she goes out on the sidewalk to retrieve the newspaper).
> People who let cats or any other animal roam around the neighborhood
> are not well informed, and I don't think you can reason with them.
> Best solution for "Precious" is to blast him/her (.22 or shotgun
> would work), bury him/her, and when the neighbors ask if you've seen
> precious, you can just say "not lately".
>
> Dick R. in Apple Valley, Minnesota USA
>
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Dick R.

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 8:41 am
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dyork wrote:
> Were you serious about killing the cat and burying her and not letting the
> neighbors know?
>
> Donna/N.C.
>
>
Serious? Not really, I'm too tender hearted to kill any critter.
Dick R.
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Gail Futoran

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 1:57 pm
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"dyork" <dyork RemoveThis @carolina.rr.com> wrote in message
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> Sad News...Precious got the little baby birds last night. I got up
> this morning and opened the front door, looked out at the nest and
> the tunnel was sitting up straight and the baby birds were gone.
> Even if I would have asked my neighbors to keep their cat indoors,
> it wouldn't have helped. They also have a dog that they seem to love
> more, it stays indoors.
> Next time the birds start to build their nest in either pot, I'll
> have to stop them before they get started.

I don't know what your setup is, but what
about one of those motion detector
water sprayers? I can't recall where I've
seen them but I would think a dose of
water would deter the cat.

Gail
near San Antonio TX Zone 8 USA
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Dick R.

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 2:33 pm
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To make a short story long ...
Cats do what their instincts tell them to do unless restrained.
We've rented a cabin on a lake in the Hayward, Wisconsin area
for several years. The owners of the cabin next door have two cats
that roam freely. Our grand kids and many other children have been
exposed to the site of half dead baby chipmunks, ducklings and other
creatures. "Oh look what the cat dragged in" is probably the owner's
response. If I happen to see one of those cats on the road I won't
avoid "accidentally" running it down. Can I say "too bad, too sad"
without a smile on my face.
Dick R.
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 2:33 pm
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"Dick R." wrote

> If I happen to see one of those cats on the road I won't
> avoid "accidentally" running it down. Can I say "too bad, too sad"
> without a smile on my face.

A fellow I know here lives on several acres (on which he enjoys target
practice with his air rifles). He told me that he once told his neighbors
down the hill that if he ever catches their cats on his property, don't
expect them to come back. They didn't.
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 5:53 pm
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In article <139i98kjiugud8b RemoveThis @corp.supernews.com>,
"Dick R." <dickr RemoveThis @visi.com> wrote:

> If I happen to see one of those cats on the road I won't
> avoid "accidentally" running it down.

When I was a tyke, my mom accidentally (no, really) ran over a beagle.
It was the most annoying dog in the neighborhood, as beagles tend to be.
She did the right thing and immediately knocked on the owner's door to
tell her, but the dog was terminally squashed. For weeks afterward,
other neighbors greeted my mom with "terrible tragedy about hitting that
beagle; if your car was damaged, I'll chip in to fix it." She was quite
embarrassed to be an unintentional hero.
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 7:17 pm
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In article <lanny-2B9CFE.17532414072007 RemoveThis @news.kc.sbcglobal.net>,
Lanny Chambers <lanny RemoveThis @hummingbirds.net> wrote:

> In article <139i98kjiugud8b RemoveThis @corp.supernews.com>,
> "Dick R." <dickr RemoveThis @visi.com> wrote:
>
> > If I happen to see one of those cats on the road I won't
> > avoid "accidentally" running it down.
>
> When I was a tyke, my mom accidentally (no, really) ran over a beagle.
> It was the most annoying dog in the neighborhood, as beagles tend to be.
> She did the right thing and immediately knocked on the owner's door to
> tell her, but the dog was terminally squashed. For weeks afterward,
> other neighbors greeted my mom with "terrible tragedy about hitting that
> beagle; if your car was damaged, I'll chip in to fix it." She was quite
> embarrassed to be an unintentional hero.

Some things like killing old cats are best not discussed. Brings
tears to ones eyes but Bill is a slayer when a cat of 20 years has
maggots in it's mouth. We keep a sort of animal genealogical file of
all our animals. 3 dogs and many cats over 35 years. Some names used 3
times. Never had a bird .

Bill now only Fluffy and Sargent a neighbors cat I feed.

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(Msg. 13) Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 3:56 am
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"dyork" <dyork RemoveThis @carolina.rr.com> wrote in
news:4698bd81$0$4902$4c368faf@roadrunner.com:

> Sad News...Precious got the little baby birds last night. I got up
> this morning and opened the front door, looked out at the nest and the
> tunnel was sitting up straight and the baby birds were gone.
> Even if I would have asked my neighbors to keep their cat indoors, it
> wouldn't have helped. They also have a dog that they seem to love
> more, it stays indoors.

Then they're idiots.

Cats are perfectly happy and healthy indoors. Dogs aren't. They have it
completely backward.

Sigh.

<rant>

Here in Seattle one is required to "license" one's pets (though most
people don't: practically NOBODY licenses their cat). I sometimes think
said license should require an exam, like getting a driver's license.
The problem is, as I see it, either apathy or willful ignorance. As Paul
Simon so aptly put it, "A man sees what he wants to see/and disregards
the rest".

I know cats are a semi-verboten topic here, but as a dog owner I find it
infuriating that MY pet, who is leashed (except when in explicitly off-
leash areas), licensed, and "picked up after" is seen as so damaging
that he's not allowed on Seattle area beaches at all - even when
leashed! - while cats are allowed to wander the area unimpeded,
gleefully (and I use the term intentionally) destroying the native
wildlife as they go.

I don't hold with guns and won't have one in the house, but believe you
me, there's plenty a local cat who's gotten a black bean in the ass from
my wrist rocket. They seldom return, and when they do, just the "thwap"
of the rubber bands will send them galloping away. Also, my dog DOES
spend an awful lot of time in the (fenced) yard; no cats around then. At
night, the possums and raccoons patrol -- if they happen to eat some
baby birds, I'm saddened, but at least they're native predators.

I don't blame the cats; they're just doing what they've evolved to do.
It's the idiot owners I blame.

</rant>

-Josh
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 1:25 pm
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Josh Hayes wrote:
> "dyork" <dyork.TakeThisOut@carolina.rr.com> wrote in
> news:4698bd81$0$4902$4c368faf@roadrunner.com:
>
>> Sad News...Precious got the little baby birds last night. I got up
>> this morning and opened the front door, looked out at the nest and the
>> tunnel was sitting up straight and the baby birds were gone.
>> Even if I would have asked my neighbors to keep their cat indoors, it
>> wouldn't have helped. They also have a dog that they seem to love
>> more, it stays indoors.
>
> Then they're idiots.
>
> Cats are perfectly happy and healthy indoors. Dogs aren't. They have it
> completely backward.
>
> Sigh.
>
> <rant>
>
> Here in Seattle one is required to "license" one's pets (though most
> people don't: practically NOBODY licenses their cat). I sometimes think
> said license should require an exam, like getting a driver's license.
> The problem is, as I see it, either apathy or willful ignorance. As Paul
> Simon so aptly put it, "A man sees what he wants to see/and disregards
> the rest".
>
> I know cats are a semi-verboten topic here, but as a dog owner I find it
> infuriating that MY pet, who is leashed (except when in explicitly off-
> leash areas), licensed, and "picked up after" is seen as so damaging
> that he's not allowed on Seattle area beaches at all - even when
> leashed! - while cats are allowed to wander the area unimpeded,
> gleefully (and I use the term intentionally) destroying the native
> wildlife as they go.
>
> I don't hold with guns and won't have one in the house, but believe you
> me, there's plenty a local cat who's gotten a black bean in the ass from
> my wrist rocket. They seldom return, and when they do, just the "thwap"
> of the rubber bands will send them galloping away. Also, my dog DOES
> spend an awful lot of time in the (fenced) yard; no cats around then. At
> night, the possums and raccoons patrol -- if they happen to eat some
> baby birds, I'm saddened, but at least they're native predators.
>
> I don't blame the cats; they're just doing what they've evolved to do.
> It's the idiot owners I blame.
>
> </rant>
>
> -Josh
Here we can have our dog pound setup a cage and trap the critters.
If the owners want their pet cats back, it will cost then $50.00 a piece.
John
Assiniboia SK
Canada
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 7:06 pm
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John Stobbs wrote:

...

> Here we can have our dog pound setup a cage and trap the critters.
> If the owners want their pet cats back, it will cost then $50.00 a piece.

That sounds like a plan! If an owner doesn't pay, is the cat used for
coyote bait?

Jerry
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