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Larry R Harrison Jr

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2004 7:38 am
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We have a male cat about 6 months old that has for sometime actually
urinated in places besides the litter box--but he does pee in the litter box
too. In particular anything in our bedroom he craves. He will just about
beat down the house trying to get in there the split-second you open the
door--then he procedes within SECONDS to squat and lay some drops on our
pile of dirty clothing.

He even did this with some croqueting yarn in that room--again, within
SECONDS. He doesn't do any of this in the living room--except (1) he
actually once did it in my laptop's carrying case (the laptop was not in
there at the time) and (2) on a pair of shorts I had lying around.

Never does it on the couch or the carpet--but if that same pair of shorts
were to be there away he'd go.

What would be causing this? Is he in heat? He's only 6 months old, and
doesn't display any frisky behaviors towards our other cat--a younger
female.

And again--he does pee in the litterbox too. Yet even so, he seems to prefer
doing it on the pile of dirty clothes in our bedroom if he gets the chance.
It seems to fascinate him.

Tips?

LRH

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2004 4:48 pm
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Larry R Harrison Jr wrote:
> We have a male cat about 6 months old that has for sometime actually
> urinated in places besides the litter box--but he does pee in the litter box
> too. In particular anything in our bedroom he craves. He will just about
> beat down the house trying to get in there the split-second you open the
> door--then he procedes within SECONDS to squat and lay some drops on our
> pile of dirty clothing.
>
> He even did this with some croqueting yarn in that room--again, within
> SECONDS. He doesn't do any of this in the living room--except (1) he
> actually once did it in my laptop's carrying case (the laptop was not in
> there at the time) and (2) on a pair of shorts I had lying around.
>
> Never does it on the couch or the carpet--but if that same pair of shorts
> were to be there away he'd go.
>
> What would be causing this? Is he in heat? He's only 6 months old, and
> doesn't display any frisky behaviors towards our other cat--a younger
> female.
>
> And again--he does pee in the litterbox too. Yet even so, he seems to prefer
> doing it on the pile of dirty clothes in our bedroom if he gets the chance.
> It seems to fascinate him.
>
> Tips?
>
> LRH
>
>

He is 6 months old and not neutered. Male cats do not have heats -
female cats do. 6 months is about the right time for a male cat to
become sexually mature. I think he is marking his territory. Neutering
him should help. Neuter him before this behaviour becomes a bad habit.
Unless you plan on letting your female cat have kittens, you could
neuter her at the same time.
Camilla

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2004 4:48 pm
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"Camilla Baird" <mail.RemoveThis@korat.dk> wrote in message
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> Larry R Harrison Jr wrote:
> > We have a male cat about 6 months old that has for sometime actually
> > urinated in places besides the litter box--but he does pee in the litter
box
> > too. In particular anything in our bedroom he craves. He will just about
> > beat down the house trying to get in there the split-second you open the
> > door--then he procedes within SECONDS to squat and lay some drops on our
> > pile of dirty clothing.
> >
> > He even did this with some croqueting yarn in that room--again, within
> > SECONDS. He doesn't do any of this in the living room--except (1) he
> > actually once did it in my laptop's carrying case (the laptop was not in
> > there at the time) and (2) on a pair of shorts I had lying around.
> >
> > Never does it on the couch or the carpet--but if that same pair of
shorts
> > were to be there away he'd go.
> >
> > What would be causing this? Is he in heat? He's only 6 months old, and
> > doesn't display any frisky behaviors towards our other cat--a younger
> > female.
> >
> > And again--he does pee in the litterbox too. Yet even so, he seems to
prefer
> > doing it on the pile of dirty clothes in our bedroom if he gets the
chance.
> > It seems to fascinate him.
> >
> > Tips?
> >
> > LRH
> >
> >
>
> He is 6 months old and not neutered. Male cats do not have heats -
> female cats do. 6 months is about the right time for a male cat to
> become sexually mature. I think he is marking his territory. Neutering
> him should help. Neuter him before this behaviour becomes a bad habit.
> Unless you plan on letting your female cat have kittens, you could
> neuter her at the same time.
> Camilla


Excellent advice. By the time LRH reads this, the younger female may come
in heat. Then he will see some *frisky* behavio(u)r for sure.

--Geno
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Kalyahna

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2004 9:30 pm
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"Larry R Harrison Jr" <noone.DeleteThis@noone.net> wrote in message
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> We have a male cat about 6 months old that has for sometime actually
> urinated in places besides the litter box--but he does pee in the litter
box
> too. In particular anything in our bedroom he craves. He will just about
> beat down the house trying to get in there the split-second you open the
> door--then he procedes within SECONDS to squat and lay some drops on our
> pile of dirty clothing.

If he's not allowed access to the room normally, he's likely marking this
new territory as also his.

> He even did this with some croqueting yarn in that room--again, within
> SECONDS. He doesn't do any of this in the living room--except (1) he
> actually once did it in my laptop's carrying case (the laptop was not in
> there at the time) and (2) on a pair of shorts I had lying around.
>
> Never does it on the couch or the carpet--but if that same pair of shorts
> were to be there away he'd go.

My cat does this. Female, spayed, eight years old. Any clothing or blankets
I leave on the floor, she immediately pees on them. I've caught her peeing
on the carpet as well, in places that indicate she's mad at me (by the
outside door - mom leaving is bad, and by the closet door, where I keep my
work clothes - mom smelling like other cats is also bad (I work for a
shelter)).

> What would be causing this? Is he in heat? He's only 6 months old, and
> doesn't display any frisky behaviors towards our other cat--a younger
> female.
>
> And again--he does pee in the litterbox too. Yet even so, he seems to
prefer
> doing it on the pile of dirty clothes in our bedroom if he gets the
chance.
> It seems to fascinate him.
>
> Tips?
>
> LRH

Get him neutered if he isn't already, be sure to clean thoroughly after any
of his messes with an enzymatic cleaner. You may want to let him in your
bedroom when you're there. If his scent is on some of your things, he may be
less likely to mark anything further.
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2004 1:58 am
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Neutering has been mentioned. I totally have no problem doing this. However
this seems to not be "spraying," as there is always squatting and it's not
like the side of the wall etc. What I've read says that's a peeing issue not
a "spraying issue." I don't know if that makes any difference.

As for letting him in that room (suggested by Kalyahna)--no way. I mean,
within SECONDS EVERY single time he's in there he does the same thing. No
way I'm letting that happen.

Also--maybe there is an "in heat" issue (at least the equivalent for a man),
he's doing that particular type of meow frequently now--the same type an old
female cat I once had would do when she went in heat.

LRH

LRH
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2004 9:33 am
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"Larry R Harrison Jr" <noone.DeleteThis@noone.net> wrote in message
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> We have a male cat about 6 months old that has for sometime actually
> urinated in places besides the litter box--but he does pee in the litter
box
> too. In particular anything in our bedroom he craves. He will just about
> beat down the house trying to get in there the split-second you open the
> door--then he procedes within SECONDS to squat and lay some drops on our
> pile of dirty clothing.
>
> He even did this with some croqueting yarn in that room--again, within
> SECONDS. He doesn't do any of this in the living room--except (1) he
> actually once did it in my laptop's carrying case (the laptop was not in
> there at the time) and (2) on a pair of shorts I had lying around.
>
> Never does it on the couch or the carpet--but if that same pair of shorts
> were to be there away he'd go.
>
> What would be causing this? Is he in heat? He's only 6 months old, and
> doesn't display any frisky behaviors towards our other cat--a younger
> female.
>
> And again--he does pee in the litterbox too. Yet even so, he seems to
prefer
> doing it on the pile of dirty clothes in our bedroom if he gets the
chance.
> It seems to fascinate him.
>
> Tips?
>
> LRH
>
>

Sounds like he's marking territory

1-get him altered asap.

2-get a hamper and keep your dirty clothing in it (preferably with a lid and
maybe a deodorizer - good place for a stick-up and all that)

3-you may want to try a feliway diffuser
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2004 10:21 am
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what is an enzymatic cleaner can you give me an example? where to find it

jungle

"Kalyahna" <kehl_jads.DeleteThis@charter.net> wrote in message
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> "Larry R Harrison Jr" <noone.DeleteThis@noone.net> wrote in message
> news:IsNPc.634$Lj.139@fed1read03...
> > We have a male cat about 6 months old that has for sometime actually
> > urinated in places besides the litter box--but he does pee in the litter
> box
> > too. In particular anything in our bedroom he craves. He will just about
> > beat down the house trying to get in there the split-second you open the
> > door--then he procedes within SECONDS to squat and lay some drops on our
> > pile of dirty clothing.
>
> If he's not allowed access to the room normally, he's likely marking this
> new territory as also his.
>
> > He even did this with some croqueting yarn in that room--again, within
> > SECONDS. He doesn't do any of this in the living room--except (1) he
> > actually once did it in my laptop's carrying case (the laptop was not in
> > there at the time) and (2) on a pair of shorts I had lying around.
> >
> > Never does it on the couch or the carpet--but if that same pair of
shorts
> > were to be there away he'd go.
>
> My cat does this. Female, spayed, eight years old. Any clothing or
blankets
> I leave on the floor, she immediately pees on them. I've caught her peeing
> on the carpet as well, in places that indicate she's mad at me (by the
> outside door - mom leaving is bad, and by the closet door, where I keep my
> work clothes - mom smelling like other cats is also bad (I work for a
> shelter)).
>
> > What would be causing this? Is he in heat? He's only 6 months old, and
> > doesn't display any frisky behaviors towards our other cat--a younger
> > female.
> >
> > And again--he does pee in the litterbox too. Yet even so, he seems to
> prefer
> > doing it on the pile of dirty clothes in our bedroom if he gets the
> chance.
> > It seems to fascinate him.
> >
> > Tips?
> >
> > LRH
>
> Get him neutered if he isn't already, be sure to clean thoroughly after
any
> of his messes with an enzymatic cleaner. You may want to let him in your
> bedroom when you're there. If his scent is on some of your things, he may
be
> less likely to mark anything further.
>
>
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2004 10:17 pm
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"Larry R Harrison Jr" <noone RemoveThis @noone.net> wrote in message
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> We have a male cat about 6 months old that has for sometime actually
> urinated in places besides the litter box--but he does pee in the litter
box
> too. In particular anything in our bedroom he craves. He will just about
> beat down the house trying to get in there the split-second you open the
> door--then he procedes within SECONDS to squat and lay some drops on our
> pile of dirty clothing.
>
> He even did this with some croqueting yarn in that room--again, within
> SECONDS. He doesn't do any of this in the living room--except (1) he
> actually once did it in my laptop's carrying case (the laptop was not in
> there at the time) and (2) on a pair of shorts I had lying around.
>
> Never does it on the couch or the carpet--but if that same pair of shorts
> were to be there away he'd go.

Your cat is trying to associate his own scent with yours. This can be
brought on by stress, over-attachment or a urinary tract problem (though he
would be unlikely to be peeing only on your shorts in that case). Most
people are offended when a cat pees on their clothing, but it is actually a
compliment in a way, albeit an unwelcome one. If possible consult a vet,
otherwise you should not let him have access to your bedroom unless you have
picked up your dirty clothes and put them out of his reach.

> What would be causing this? Is he in heat? He's only 6 months old, and
> doesn't display any frisky behaviors towards our other cat--a younger
> female.

Male cats do not come in heat. They are always sexually active. Now is the
time to have him desexed, or he will be peeing all over your house in
another few months.

> And again--he does pee in the litterbox too. Yet even so, he seems to
prefer
> doing it on the pile of dirty clothes in our bedroom if he gets the
chance.
> It seems to fascinate him.
>
> Tips?

-Silver
"I love cats because I enjoy my home; & little by little, they become its
visible soul."

- Jean Cocteau 1889-1963.
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2004 10:22 pm
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"Kalyahna" <kehl_jads.DeleteThis@charter.net> wrote in message
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> "Larry R Harrison Jr" <noone.DeleteThis@noone.net> wrote in message
> news:IsNPc.634$Lj.139@fed1read03...
> > We have a male cat about 6 months old that has for sometime actually
> > urinated in places besides the litter box--but he does pee in the litter
> box
> > too. In particular anything in our bedroom he craves. He will just about
> > beat down the house trying to get in there the split-second you open the
> > door--then he procedes within SECONDS to squat and lay some drops on our
> > pile of dirty clothing.
>
> If he's not allowed access to the room normally, he's likely marking this
> new territory as also his.
>
> > He even did this with some croqueting yarn in that room--again, within
> > SECONDS. He doesn't do any of this in the living room--except (1) he
> > actually once did it in my laptop's carrying case (the laptop was not in
> > there at the time) and (2) on a pair of shorts I had lying around.
> >
> > Never does it on the couch or the carpet--but if that same pair of
shorts
> > were to be there away he'd go.
>
> My cat does this. Female, spayed, eight years old. Any clothing or
blankets
> I leave on the floor, she immediately pees on them. I've caught her peeing
> on the carpet as well, in places that indicate she's mad at me (by the
> outside door - mom leaving is bad, and by the closet door, where I keep my
> work clothes - mom smelling like other cats is also bad (I work for a
> shelter)).

I agree with the work clothes-other-cat-scent-thing, but not the back door.
I think that she is most likely marking because of another cat hanging
around and possibly spraying on the outside of the door, a dog or some other
real or percieved threat. In my opinion, cats do not get mad at people -
they become stressed and insecure that is all.

> > What would be causing this? Is he in heat? He's only 6 months old, and
> > doesn't display any frisky behaviors towards our other cat--a younger
> > female.
> >
> > And again--he does pee in the litterbox too. Yet even so, he seems to
> prefer
> > doing it on the pile of dirty clothes in our bedroom if he gets the
> chance.
> > It seems to fascinate him.
> >
> > Tips?
> >
> > LRH
>
> Get him neutered if he isn't already, be sure to clean thoroughly after
any
> of his messes with an enzymatic cleaner. You may want to let him in your
> bedroom when you're there. If his scent is on some of your things, he may
be
> less likely to mark anything further.
>
>
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2004 10:24 pm
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"Larry R Harrison Jr" <noone RemoveThis @noone.com> wrote in message
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> Neutering has been mentioned. I totally have no problem doing this.
However
> this seems to not be "spraying," as there is always squatting and it's not
> like the side of the wall etc. What I've read says that's a peeing issue
not
> a "spraying issue." I don't know if that makes any difference.
>
> As for letting him in that room (suggested by Kalyahna)--no way. I mean,
> within SECONDS EVERY single time he's in there he does the same thing. No
> way I'm letting that happen.
>
> Also--maybe there is an "in heat" issue (at least the equivalent for a
man),
> he's doing that particular type of meow frequently now--the same type an
old
> female cat I once had would do when she went in heat.
>

Are you sure that your male cat is a male?
If it is definately a male, frequent calling is usually a sign of distress!
I would take him to a vet.
-Silver
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visible soul."

- Jean Cocteau 1889-1963.
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2004 11:05 am
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"jungle" <mcg_dawn.TakeThisOut@hotmail.no.com> wrote in message
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> what is an enzymatic cleaner can you give me an example? where to find it
>
I don't know for sure - but vinegar and lemon juice are both very good
cleaners which will cut through just about any grease and grime.
Bi-carb of soda is also good for tough spots if used as a paste.

-Silver

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(Msg. 12) Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2004 7:57 am
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"jungle" <mcg_dawn.RemoveThis@hotmail.no.com> wrote in message
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> what is an enzymatic cleaner can you give me an example? where to find it
>
> jungle
>
You can find enzymatic cleaners at most pet stores.

Examples:
Simple Solution Urine & Stain Remover
Just for Cats by Nature's Miracle
Get Serious - Pet Stain, Odor and Pheromone Extractor
Petzyme Stain & Odor Remover for Cats
Cat Formula Odor Disposer

ODORAWAY (available online)

Just to name a few in no particular order.

W
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2004 12:33 pm
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"Silver" <rirnef DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Kalyahna" <kehl_jads DeleteThis @charter.net> wrote in message
> news:10h0jdg3djq9b07@corp.supernews.com...
> > My cat does this. Female, spayed, eight years old. Any clothing or
> blankets
> > I leave on the floor, she immediately pees on them. I've caught her
peeing
> > on the carpet as well, in places that indicate she's mad at me (by the
> > outside door - mom leaving is bad, and by the closet door, where I keep
my
> > work clothes - mom smelling like other cats is also bad (I work for a
> > shelter)).
>
> I agree with the work clothes-other-cat-scent-thing, but not the back
door.
> I think that she is most likely marking because of another cat hanging
> around and possibly spraying on the outside of the door, a dog or some
other
> real or percieved threat. In my opinion, cats do not get mad at people -
> they become stressed and insecure that is all.

I live in an apartment, not a house. The only place she can see other
animals is outside the window, but she has never urinated on that side of
the apartment. It has -always- been by the door. Perhaps she isn't upset
that I'm leaving, but that when I come back through that door, I smell like
other animals (she was initially given up for attacking dogs in the
household, and eventually we discovered that her buddy-cat was bullying
her).
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2004 12:36 pm
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"jungle" <mcg_dawn.RemoveThis@hotmail.no.com> wrote in message
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> what is an enzymatic cleaner can you give me an example? where to find it
>
> jungle

You can check at any of your local pet stores (Petco, Animart, etc).
Supermarkets and grocery stores don't tend to carry enzymatic cleaners (and
general stain removers may get rid of the stain, but they will NOT remove
the smell, which can draw a cat back to continually pee in the same spot).
The bottle will say that it contains enzymes or is an enzymatic cleaner -
basically, the enzymes get rid of the smell.

Vinegar works well - it's a scent that cats don't like, so they'll keep away
from the place that smells like it, but I don't know if it actually gets out
the underlying scent of urine or just covers it with something stronger.
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2004 8:54 pm
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"Kalyahna" <kehl_jads.TakeThisOut@charter.net> wrote in message
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> "Silver" <rirnef.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> >
> > "Kalyahna" <kehl_jads.TakeThisOut@charter.net> wrote in message
> > news:10h0jdg3djq9b07@corp.supernews.com...
> > > My cat does this. Female, spayed, eight years old. Any clothing or
> > blankets
> > > I leave on the floor, she immediately pees on them. I've caught her
> peeing
> > > on the carpet as well, in places that indicate she's mad at me (by the
> > > outside door - mom leaving is bad, and by the closet door, where I
keep
> my
> > > work clothes - mom smelling like other cats is also bad (I work for a
> > > shelter)).
> >
> > I agree with the work clothes-other-cat-scent-thing, but not the back
> door.
> > I think that she is most likely marking because of another cat hanging
> > around and possibly spraying on the outside of the door, a dog or some
> other
> > real or percieved threat. In my opinion, cats do not get mad at people -
> > they become stressed and insecure that is all.
>
> I live in an apartment, not a house. The only place she can see other
> animals is outside the window, but she has never urinated on that side of
> the apartment. It has -always- been by the door. Perhaps she isn't upset
> that I'm leaving, but that when I come back through that door, I smell
like
> other animals (she was initially given up for attacking dogs in the
> household, and eventually we discovered that her buddy-cat was bullying
> her).

Maybe the scent of the other animals on you makes her feel threatened
somehow. I would just try and clean it up as effectively as possible each
time
and see if she eventually settles down :)

-Silver
"I love cats because I enjoy my home; & little by little, they become its
visible soul."

- Jean Cocteau 1889-1963.
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