Cancer, sedate untill put down

On 25 Mar 2004 03:02:10 GMT, In the heat of the moment, Rocky
<2dogs DeleteThis @rocky-dog.com> posted:
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>A good option for me was for the vet to come to my house to put
>my dog down.

Fear spouts from the smell of a vet.

>There's no way that I could do what you're proposing.

She is my friend. I would want he to do the same for me.
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"Bill Schowengerdt" <Billhanna DeleteThis @boggletech.com> wrote in message
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> Hi,,
> >
> Also.... When the time comes, I would rather put her down myself. >
> Thanks
> --
> Bill
>
>I'm sorry for your dog's pain, and the pain you are going through. However,
euthanasia is NOT something you want to do at home. A dog's reaction to some
drugs can be quite different from that of a person, and you do NOT want to
get the dosage wrong and cause her more suffering. Most vets will come to
your home and administer the euthanasia while you are there holding your
friend. It's the best way to be sure that everything goes correctly and
that she isn't any more stressed than necessary.
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On Thu, 25 Mar 2004 03:50:39 GMT, In the heat of the moment, "Sunflower"
<sunflwrNOSPAM.TakeThisOut@midsouth.rr.com> posted:
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>euthanasia is NOT something you want to do at home. A dog's reaction to some
>drugs can be quite different from that of a person, and you do NOT want to
>get the dosage wrong and cause her more suffering.

I have put down several large animals. I have never heard of a narcotic
overdose going badly.

Unfortunatly, many vets are taught to use magniesum sulphate because it
is cheap. Unfortunatly, it is considered a painfull way to go.

Nonetheless... I thank you for taking the time to reply.

When I die, I want to go to where dogs go.

bill

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On Wed, 24 Mar 2004 19:27:36 -0600, Bill Schowengerdt
<Billhanna.TakeThisOut@boggletech.com> wrote:

> My 55 pound best friend has a grapefruit sized mass which is rapidly
>closing her trachea. [...]
>
>Also.... When the time comes, I would rather put her down myself. I am
>thinking that a morphine, (or oxycodone) overdose is the best way to do
>it. I could inject, but do not know where to hit a vein on dogs, so (if
>she can still swallow) I figure I will give her pills.
>
>Any recommendations on dosage? I have a few 60 mgs morphine tablets, and
>a bunch of 20 and 40 mg oxycodone.

I'm sorry you friend has developed this condition. Surely it has not
been easy to observe.

In my very humble opinion, "the time has come." But that differs for all
of us.

You seem to have a curious and impressive collection of narcotics. I'm
surprised you haven't already calculated the Minimum Lethal Dose of
W,Y,Z for your 55 pound best friend. I won't help you.

Again, my opinion, you are absolutely playing with fire, when it comes
to your ideas about your euthanizing your dog. Euthanasia drugs are
actually cocktails containing things such as sodium pentobarbital, basic
antifreeze and methanol. They act in a sort of cascade manner, that you
almost certainly could not create with your concoction. If you happen to
calculate the MLD of whatever you propose to inject or shove down her
throat, you have no guarantee she won't throw them up; and you're not
trained in hitting a dog's vain.

I'm not sure if you have injectable drugs. If you mash up the pills and
try to inject them, please, be advised that you and your best friend are
in for a horrible experience--which would be fatal: eventually.

Keep your dog calm until tomorrow, and then ask your vet to come to your
house. For this specific task, most vets are willing. In case you have
never seen a death by professional lethal injection, I urge you to say
your goodbyes before the needle is inserted. Once the plunger is pushed,
you'll only have eight to 10 seconds.

I am sad whenever anyone loses a dog, but I can't tell you how strongly
I urge you to leave euthanasia to your vet--or even your local animal
shelter (some offer euthanasia service).

Michael
A day without recoil is like a day without sunshine!
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Bill Schowengerdt <billhanna RemoveThis @access4less.net> wrote:
>I have put down several large animals. I have never heard of a narcotic
>overdose going badly.

Responses to narcotics vary quite a bit between individuals. Narcotic
overdoses can cause nausea & vomiting, headache, dizziness, nervousness
& restlessness, nightmares and convulsions. I certainly wouldn't want
any of those to be the last sensation my animals feel.

>Unfortunatly, many vets are taught to use magniesum sulphate because it
>is cheap. Unfortunatly, it is considered a painfull way to go.

Perhaps for large animals--I wouldn't know. Standard practice for
euthanasia of small animals these days is an intravenous injection of
sodium pentobarbital (a barbituate), often preceded by a subcutaneous
injection of a mild tranquilizer. I have heard that worst-case for
this combination is a minute or two, but in each of the euthanasias
I've taken part in it's taken only seconds. An oral overdose of anything
would take much longer with the potential for fear, stress and other
discomfort.

If your dog is very stressed by vets, it might be possible to get
an oral tranquilizer for you to administer before the vet comes to
your house.

In sympathy,

Dianne
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I agree with Matt don't do this yourself. If it's a matter of money talk to
the vet about payments if you have to and ask that they come to the house.
It's just so much better knowing they pass away quickly.

Celeste

"Rocky" <2dogs.DeleteThis@rocky-dog.com> wrote in message
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> Bill Schowengerdt said in rec.pets.dogs.health:
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> > When the time comes, I would rather put her down myself.
>
> A good option for me was for the vet to come to my house to put
> my dog down.
>
> There's no way that I could do what you're proposing.
>
> --
> --Matt. Rocky's a Dog.
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"Joshua" <Joshua DeleteThis @Jericho.net> wrote in message
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> > Bill
> >
> > Please God, delete G Bush. NOW.
>
> sorry for your loss, but keep your political views where they belong - to
> yourself or in another ng, not here.

Shut up, netcop.
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> "Joshua" <Joshua.DeleteThis@Jericho.net> wrote in message
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> > > Bill
> > >
> > > Please God, delete G Bush. NOW.
> >
> > sorry for your loss, but keep your political views where they belong -
to
> > yourself or in another ng, not here.
>
> Shut up, netcop.
>
>

Clearly, you're too stupid to recognize the hypocrisy of your post.
How typical....
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> > "Joshua" <Joshua.RemoveThis@Jericho.net> wrote in message
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> > > > Bill
> > > >
> > > > Please God, delete G Bush. NOW.
> > >
> > > sorry for your loss, but keep your political views where they belong -
> to
> > > yourself or in another ng, not here.
> >
> > Shut up, netcop.
> >
> >
>
> Clearly, you're too stupid to recognize the hypocrisy of your post.
> How typical....
>
Shut up shuttin' up, netcop.
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On Sat, 3 Apr 2004 11:50:09 -0700, In the heat of the moment, "Joshua"
<Joshua.RemoveThis@Jericho.net> posted:
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>sorry for your loss, but keep your political views where they belong - to
>yourself or in another ng, not here.

It is my sig. Perhaps you are not familiar with what is acceptable in
Usenet. I suggest if such things bother you, that you should find some
way to lighten up your life.
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Bill

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On Sat, 3 Apr 2004 11:50:09 -0700, In the heat of the moment, "Joshua"
<Joshua.TakeThisOut@Jericho.net> posted:
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>but keep your political views where they belong - to
>yourself or in another ng, not here.

BTW..... Your intended interference in my life, crosses the line. Such
things are typical of bush supporters. Geeze, you people love to tell
everyone what to do. It is a wonderful trait and the rest of the world
finds it Sooooo endearing. Perhaps that is why Americans are so loved
wherever they go.

Hmmmmm... Now that I think about it.... Perhaps it would be good for you
to travel the world and enjoy some of that adoration?

Oh.... Also... I am wondering... Do you own this NG? I mean.... if it
belongs to you then I certainly apologize for breaking your rules.

Perhaps it would help if you frequently post your rules for the proper
use of your NG.
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"Bill Schowengerdt" <Billhanna.TakeThisOut@boggletech.com> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 3 Apr 2004 11:50:09 -0700, In the heat of the moment, "Joshua"
> <Joshua.TakeThisOut@Jericho.net> posted:
> .
> >but keep your political views where they belong - to
> >yourself or in another ng, not here.
>
> BTW..... Your intended interference in my life, crosses the line. Such
> things are typical of bush supporters. Geeze, you people love to tell


Wrong assumption on your part.


> everyone what to do. It is a wonderful trait and the rest of the world
> finds it Sooooo endearing. Perhaps that is why Americans are so loved
> wherever they go.
>
> Hmmmmm... Now that I think about it.... Perhaps it would be good for you
> to travel the world and enjoy some of that adoration?
>


Been there, done that junior


> Oh.... Also... I am wondering... Do you own this NG? I mean.... if it
> belongs to you then I certainly apologize for breaking your rules.


It's called etiquette - something with which you're obviously unfamiliar.
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On Sun, 4 Apr 2004 15:06:28 -0600, In the heat of the moment, "Joshua"
<Joshua.DeleteThis@Jericho.net> posted:
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>
>Been there, done that junior

Pops.

Perhaps you were there before me and that is why they had such a strong
dislike for Americans,

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Bill

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