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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 10:15 pm
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Hi,

I am not a regular reader of this group, but I wanted to tell a
story. I was walking my dog this evening (on a leash), an Amerian
Eskimo standard 20lbs (9 kilos), when a loose Pit attacked. I quick
picked up my dog and the pit left, I put him back down and it ran back
and I tried to get my dog back up but I couldn't, so I lifted the
leash straight up and his Collar broke. The Pit attacked and
immediately went for my dogs neck. The Pitt was completely on top of
my dog and put his mouth on his neck. I kicked the dog and beat him
with the leash and a passer by hit him with a metal trash can and he
got off and my dog got away, almost getting hit by a car in the chase.
Another second or 2 and my dog would have been dead. My dog is like
one of the familly. I love h im every bit as much as you love your
pit. I cried when I got home (I havn't cried in years) because I
thought he was hurt (he ran home (but wasn't running right) and got
there before I did, he was shaking on my porch bench). Loosing my dog
would be like loosing a familly member. He does appear to be ok now,
he was just really shaken up.

Pit Bulls need to be at minimum, baned from cities, probably suburbs
as well and just be country/farm dogs where the only people and
animals they can attack and kill is their owners and their owners
other pets. Pit Bull lovers stress how important it is to raise these
things in the right environment, but people just aren't doing that.
The reality is, people get the dogs, don't socialize them, mistreat
them, walk them off the leash etc, etc and most of the time, it's
someone else who pays the price, not the dog owner (sometimes it's the
owner or the owners familly, but most of the time it's a neighbor or
neighbors animal). Pit Bulls are too strong and too capable of
killing to be in a city where you have thousands of people in a square
mile, like philadelphia (where this happened). Had this been any
other dog I would have jumped on it and pulled it off my dog, but I
didn't want to loose an arm in the process.
You can't understand how I feel until this happens to you or
someone you love. I always thought Pits were a bit much, but never
thought about it past that, but now that I am a victim (and damn near
the death of my dog) because of other people not raising their dog
right I can see it from a prospective that you can not.

Dogs living in the city/suburbs need to be relocated or killed. That
is the only realistic option. The city can not possibly go out and
inspect every Pit Bull home and be sure that it is being raised
properly and remove the ones that are not. And it's unfair to give
every one the benifit of the doubt and just wait until the dogs kills
someone or some pet before removing/killing. I do believe that every
familly needs to be given the opportunity to relocate their pets, but
within a reasonable time, say 30-60 days. You can always move to the
country if your Pit means that much to you. But in the end, these
dogs are killers and need to be away from people and pets. People
should have the right to own a dog that might turn on them or their
children or other pets, but the general public shouldn't have to share
the risk.


Chris
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There's something you've forgotten
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On Sun, 21 Oct 2007 06:18:01 -0500, alpha.bob©
<alpha.bob©@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>On Sat, 20 Oct 2007 22:15:56 -0400, Chris
><christo9 RemoveThis @notalotofunwanted.aol.com> wrote:
>
>>Hi,
>>
>> I am not a regular reader of this group, but I wanted to tell a
>>story. I was walking my dog this evening (on a leash), an Amerian
>>Eskimo standard 20lbs (9 kilos), when a loose Pit attacked. I quick
>>picked up my dog and the pit left, I put him back down and it ran back
>>and I tried to get my dog back up but I couldn't, so I lifted the
>>leash straight up and his Collar broke. The Pit attacked and
>>immediately went for my dogs neck. The Pitt was completely on top of
>>my dog and put his mouth on his neck. I kicked the dog and beat him
>>with the leash and a passer by hit him with a metal trash can and he
>>got off and my dog got away, almost getting hit by a car in the chase.
>>Another second or 2 and my dog would have been dead. My dog is like
>>one of the familly. I love h im every bit as much as you love your
>>pit. I cried when I got home (I havn't cried in years) because I
>>thought he was hurt (he ran home (but wasn't running right) and got
>>there before I did, he was shaking on my porch bench). Loosing my dog
>>would be like loosing a familly member. He does appear to be ok now,
>>he was just really shaken up.
>>
>>Pit Bulls need to be at minimum, baned from cities, probably suburbs
>>as well and just be country/farm dogs where the only people and
>>animals they can attack and kill is their owners and their owners
>>other pets. Pit Bull lovers stress how important it is to raise these
>>things in the right environment, but people just aren't doing that.
>>The reality is, people get the dogs, don't socialize them, mistreat
>>them, walk them off the leash etc, etc and most of the time, it's
>>someone else who pays the price, not the dog owner (sometimes it's the
>>owner or the owners familly, but most of the time it's a neighbor or
>>neighbors animal). Pit Bulls are too strong and too capable of
>>killing to be in a city where you have thousands of people in a square
>>mile, like philadelphia (where this happened). Had this been any
>>other dog I would have jumped on it and pulled it off my dog, but I
>>didn't want to loose an arm in the process.
>> You can't understand how I feel until this happens to you or
>>someone you love. I always thought Pits were a bit much, but never
>>thought about it past that, but now that I am a victim (and damn near
>>the death of my dog) because of other people not raising their dog
>>right I can see it from a prospective that you can not.
>>
>>Dogs living in the city/suburbs need to be relocated or killed. That
>>is the only realistic option. The city can not possibly go out and
>>inspect every Pit Bull home and be sure that it is being raised
>>properly and remove the ones that are not. And it's unfair to give
>>every one the benifit of the doubt and just wait until the dogs kills
>>someone or some pet before removing/killing. I do believe that every
>>familly needs to be given the opportunity to relocate their pets, but
>>within a reasonable time, say 30-60 days. You can always move to the
>>country if your Pit means that much to you. But in the end, these
>>dogs are killers and need to be away from people and pets. People
>>should have the right to own a dog that might turn on them or their
>>children or other pets, but the general public shouldn't have to share
>>the risk.
>>
>>
>>Chris
>>If life seems jolly rotten
>>There's something you've forgotten
>>and thats to laugh and smile and dance and sing!
>
>Read a little...... learn a LOT
>
>http://www.fataldogattacks.com/

And just like I said, people are not raising their Pits right and the
result is what happened to me last night. You can't change human
behaivor, so the next best thing is to ban the animal (in densely
populated areas). Particularly in cities, the people who want the
dogs most are the people that shouldn't have them. I live in a pretty
good part of the city, but travel frequently through the bad parts and
I see over and over, young men with these dogs wearing gang colors.
One personal example I can tell you is my wifes friends husband just
got a pit puppy and he is deliberately trying to raise the dog to be
mean. He is not socializing the dog. He will not let anybody pet
him, play with him... He hits him and hardly ever walks him (then
hits him for going to the bathroom on his carpet). This man thinks of
himself as some sort of tough guy and wants a dog that fits his image.
This dog will grow into a killer (it already weighs 40+ punds and is
still a puppy). This is just one example of thousands and thousands
in philadelphia and cities all over the country. Drug dealers use
these dogs to slow police down so they can get the drugs down the
toilet in time, they don't even care if their dog gets killed or kills
in the process. They view them as a tool in the drug trade. I am not
asking to kill them all, just put them out of the city where they can
only hurt the people most responsible for their behaivor.

I think it's also worth noting that last night this dog was by all
accounts, acting friendly and no danger, until he saw my dog and
something in him snapped and he attacked. My dog was looking the
other way and was not even aware of the pits presence until he was up
in my arms (the first attack), so my dog did NOTHING to provoke this
killer.

Chris
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 11:13 pm
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On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 00:56:31 GMT, "alpha.shanna©"
<alpha.shanna©@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>
>Chris,
>While I truly am sorry about your bad experience,

Thankyou for understanding
>you are certainly
>preaching to the wrong group. The folks who post here are the
>responsible owners. Many of the dogs here are Canine Good Citizens. My
>dog is 8 years old and has never been outdoors without being on a leash.

I understand that most people who post to dog newsgroups do not
represent the average dog owner, but instead reaches the best owners.
Obviously, I'm in no position to ban pit bulls or any other dog from
philadelphia or any other city. OTOH, I am incredably frustrated. So
many otherwise reasonable people refuse to believe that they can not
control their dog in any situation and walk them without a leash. THe
dogs see another dog and run after it, the owner calls and the dog
doesn't listen. People don't seem to understand that dogs are animals
and not humans and things can set them off that a human wouldn't even
be able to detect, like certain smells for example. There are laws
against it, but they never enforced unless a tragedy happens and then
it's too late.
> We all support training, socialization, and positive education (not
>for the dogs, for the humans who believe the breed should be banned).
>
>Should the breed be banned to the farm? Of course not. Should a dog be
>allowed to run loose in a neighborhood to threaten children and attack
>other dogs? Of course not.
>

First of all, most city yards are VERY small and inadequete for
anything but small dogs. It's cruel to the dog and it's bad for the
neighbors.
>You live in a city with leash laws and animal control officers. If the
>dog's owners are not responsible enough to protect him from situations
>that can harm him, you are well within your rights to have the laws
>enforced.
>
After the fact, a very hollow victory. How would you like your dog
killed and then the killer put down. 2 of mans best friend lost
because of 1 bad owner.
>I personally feel sick every time I hear one of these stories. It is
>apparent the dog never had a chance to be the cared for, wonderful pets
>we know. And now the dog who doesn't choose its owner will most likely
>be euthanized.

I will feel safer if this dog is put down. I can see your side, but I
want to be safe walking my dog. I don't want a giant dog and am happy
with a 20lb dog, but he can't defend himself from a 50lb pit or Rott
or German SHepard. At MINIMUM anyone wanting a large dog or dangerous
dog should have to get training on raising it properly, socializing
it, warned of the dangers of off leash walks...

When I first got my dog, I went to the library and got 2 dogs on
American Eskimo's and a book on dogs in gereral, since he is my first
dog as an adult. As a result I have a happy, healthy, trained dog
with a wonderful relationship. This dog means the world to me and my
wife, but we put the effort in in the beginning and continue to this
day. He gets hours of attention every day, toys out the wazoo,
multiple walks each day... We are raising him the right way. But
most people don't.

Chris
>
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 7:33 am
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Chris,

First off, I'm very sorry to hear what happened to your dog. Get him/her
checked over by a vet just in case. There may be puncture wounds that are
hidden under the fur that could abcess and need draining and some
anti-biotics.

Next, call animal control if you haven't already. File a report with as
much detail about the dog as you can. And if you know who the passerby was
that also helped, get a statement from them too. If you know who the owner
of this dog was, definitely make that known! This owner is irresponsible
and doesn't deserve to own a dog at all regardless of breed.

You have clearly stated all along who the problem is...the people, the
owner, the human who chooses to not raise up a dog properly. And THAT IS
the problem!! Banning them from the cities and suburbs isn't going to help,
those irresponsible people will only get another breed or cross of dog.
Believe me, I have stats to back it up from more than one city.

I just come home from a 3 day conference on dangerous dogs and every expert
there was against banning a breed of dog. The focus of the conference was
on how to deal with them, how to deal with lax dog owners and how to start
changing the way animal controls do their jobs so that people like you won't
have to be afraid to walk their dog.

Far too often animal control is inadequately funded and do not have the
officers available to respond quickly. Nor do they have the time to follow
up on every call or complaint, and that's a shame. Your dog may have only
been shaken up but it still warrants a call to animal control and that dog
owner must be found. Chances are however that that owner has failed to
license the dog, failed to microchip the dog, and more obviously, failed to
contain the dog properly. The dog owner needs to be punished and
unfortunately for that dog, it will likely die for it's owners' mishandling.

You sound like not only a responsible owner (and thank you for that) but a
reasonable person that can see logic and common sense. Please realize that
the irresponsible owner you didn't get to encounter is the enemy here, not
the breed of dog. Most of what the media prints on the "pit bull" is
nothing more than myths that have been spread since the early 1980's.
Locking jaw, bite strength, and vicious behaviour out of nowhere is all BS.
The irresponsible owner is also in the minority of dog owners.

I hope your dog is ok, and if you do find any puncture wounds and haven't
taken him to the vet, give me a holler, I can guide you through a fix.
--
Sandra Alway
President of the Golden Horseshoe American Pit Bull Terrier Club
www.ghapbtc.com
Vice President of the Dog Legislation Council of Canada
www.doglegislationcouncilcanada.org
Ontario Canada

"Chris" <christo9.RemoveThis@notalotofunwanted.aol.com> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 00:56:31 GMT, "alpha.shanna©"
> <alpha.shanna©@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> >
> >Chris,
> >While I truly am sorry about your bad experience,
>
> Thankyou for understanding
> >you are certainly
> >preaching to the wrong group. The folks who post here are the
> >responsible owners. Many of the dogs here are Canine Good Citizens. My
> >dog is 8 years old and has never been outdoors without being on a leash.
>
> I understand that most people who post to dog newsgroups do not
> represent the average dog owner, but instead reaches the best owners.
> Obviously, I'm in no position to ban pit bulls or any other dog from
> philadelphia or any other city. OTOH, I am incredably frustrated. So
> many otherwise reasonable people refuse to believe that they can not
> control their dog in any situation and walk them without a leash. THe
> dogs see another dog and run after it, the owner calls and the dog
> doesn't listen. People don't seem to understand that dogs are animals
> and not humans and things can set them off that a human wouldn't even
> be able to detect, like certain smells for example. There are laws
> against it, but they never enforced unless a tragedy happens and then
> it's too late.
> > We all support training, socialization, and positive education (not
> >for the dogs, for the humans who believe the breed should be banned).
> >
> >Should the breed be banned to the farm? Of course not. Should a dog be
> >allowed to run loose in a neighborhood to threaten children and attack
> >other dogs? Of course not.
> >
>
> First of all, most city yards are VERY small and inadequete for
> anything but small dogs. It's cruel to the dog and it's bad for the
> neighbors.
> >You live in a city with leash laws and animal control officers. If the
> >dog's owners are not responsible enough to protect him from situations
> >that can harm him, you are well within your rights to have the laws
> >enforced.
> >
> After the fact, a very hollow victory. How would you like your dog
> killed and then the killer put down. 2 of mans best friend lost
> because of 1 bad owner.
> >I personally feel sick every time I hear one of these stories. It is
> >apparent the dog never had a chance to be the cared for, wonderful pets
> >we know. And now the dog who doesn't choose its owner will most likely
> >be euthanized.
>
> I will feel safer if this dog is put down. I can see your side, but I
> want to be safe walking my dog. I don't want a giant dog and am happy
> with a 20lb dog, but he can't defend himself from a 50lb pit or Rott
> or German SHepard. At MINIMUM anyone wanting a large dog or dangerous
> dog should have to get training on raising it properly, socializing
> it, warned of the dangers of off leash walks...
>
> When I first got my dog, I went to the library and got 2 dogs on
> American Eskimo's and a book on dogs in gereral, since he is my first
> dog as an adult. As a result I have a happy, healthy, trained dog
> with a wonderful relationship. This dog means the world to me and my
> wife, but we put the effort in in the beginning and continue to this
> day. He gets hours of attention every day, toys out the wazoo,
> multiple walks each day... We are raising him the right way. But
> most people don't.
>
> Chris
> >
> >--
> >Shanna & Trouble
> >
> >Email: Remove the ©
>
> If life seems jolly rotten
> There's something you've forgotten
> and thats to laugh and smile and dance and sing!
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 6:33 pm
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On Sat, 20 Oct 2007 22:15:56 -0400, Chris
<christo9.RemoveThis@notalotofunwanted.aol.com> wrote:

>...
>Pit Bulls need to be at minimum, baned from cities, ...
>Pit Bulls are too strong and too capable of
>killing to be in a city...

I'm very sorry for your beautiful dog, but my concern for you when you
wrote, "Pit Bulls need to be at minimum, baned from cities, ...Pit Bulls
are too strong and too capable of killing to be in a city..."

Pit Bulls are not "too" anything, except misunderstood! If you're so
eager to have something banned, ban damned stupid, irresponsible pet
owners--especially those who own pit bulls.

"At minimum..."? Damn.

You have a nice day.

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On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 16:51:15 +1300, "~shady angel~"
<angie.TakeThisOut@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

>
>So you think a 60 KG rottie, grate dane, doberman or many other types of
>dogs wouldn't have ripped your arm off and you could have picked it up and
>throwen it or something?
German Shepards are just as bad and so are rottweilers and great danes
and a few other larger breeds.

>I know what your trying to say I had a cavilier
>king charles spanniel <tiny dog> attaked by some inbreed idiots pit bull and
>Know what it's like I had that dog since I was 9 years old it died when I
>was about 21 when he died <old age>
>But I now own a pit bull type dog who is super friendly, loves kids and is
>only aggressive if the other dog is.
>I would neverlet him wonder or walk him offleash now he's older.
But you did it when he was younger?

Chris
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On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 18:33:57 -0400, Michael A. Ball
<Guardian.RemoveThis@wireco.net> wrote:

>On Sat, 20 Oct 2007 22:15:56 -0400, Chris
><christo9.RemoveThis@notalotofunwanted.aol.com> wrote:
>
>>...
>>Pit Bulls need to be at minimum, baned from cities, ...
>>Pit Bulls are too strong and too capable of
>>killing to be in a city...
>
>I'm very sorry for your beautiful dog, but my concern for you when you
>wrote, "Pit Bulls need to be at minimum, baned from cities, ...Pit Bulls
>are too strong and too capable of killing to be in a city..."
>
>Pit Bulls are not "too" anything, except misunderstood! If you're so
>eager to have something banned, ban damned stupid, irresponsible pet
>owners--especially those who own pit bulls.

How would this work? A licensing system could be possible and anyone
buying a dangerous dog (or any do for that matter) could be forced to
take training sessions or something.
>
>"At minimum..."? Damn.
At mimimum the city, preferably suburbs as well. Most of the american
people live in the country anyway.

>
>You have a nice day.
>
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On Sun, 21 Oct 2007 16:37:14 -0400, Chris wrote:
> The main problem is the power these dogs have. Had this dog not been
> a Pit Bull I would have grabbed him and thrown him off of my dog.

???

Pit bulls are relatively small dogs... the breed standard for the APBT
is 50-someodd pounds, tops. AmStaffs, maybe 80 lbs. There are tons of
much bigger dogs that you would *not* be able to "grab and throw off of
your dog".

The problem you had was with the owner, not the dog. You can't ban "pit
bulls", because there's no such thing... there is no breed called "pit
bull". The huge monstrosities that the gang-bangers love to chain up
are not any breed that's recognized as a "pit bull". And even if you
did somehow manage to ban all dogs that you thought looked "too mean",
the vermin would just get Rottwelers, Doberman pinschers, Akitas, GSDs,
Belgian malinois' or any of several dozen other breeds and start to
create problems with them.

If you got mugged by a black man, you'd be pretty soft in the head to
then proclaim that you hate all black people. There is no difference
when you see a problem with one dog that you identify as a "pit bull"
and then deciding that all "pit bulls" need to be exterminated.

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(Msg. 13) Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 6:54 pm
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I'm an Animal Science Major at the University of New Hampshire I have
worked in animal shelters for over five years and have seen first hand
almost daily the oblivious general public stereotyping pit bulls as
only capable of showing aggressive traits. Generalizing an entire
breed bye its unfair reputation and suggesting unjustified euthanasia
of an entire breed is beyond ignorant. A common misunderstanding of
the breeds history is that it was breed just for fighting. The Pit
Bull Terrier was originally a farm dog much like the Border Collie its
main responsibility was to herd cattle into the farmers barns. This
was accomplished by the breed ramming (not biting) the cattle
forcefully with its head to get it to go in the desired direction.
This would explain the breeds physical characteristics and
temperament. The aggressive temperament and persistency to never back
down is a genetic trait of the breed and important to understand to
prevent any unnecessary biting. Although this trait is prevalent in
almost all of the AKC working, sporting, hunting, terrier and non
working category breeds. Exterminating one breed out of many would not
only be prejudice it would be useless. All dogs can show signs of
aggression I believe strongly in euthanasia dogs that show aggressive
behavior to narrow the gene pool of aggressive traits but the only way
for that to benefit anyone is for it to include every dog breed. Not
every dog is going to be a house pet but every breed has the potential
of generating a non aggressive dog and the reciprocal is also true
every so called friendly breed is capable and will produce aggressive
dogs. Singling out one breed because the media portrays this breed to
be only aggressive and a threat will only perpetuate the uneducated
breed stereotype keeping this breed in shelters indefinitely and in
turn empowering dog fighting enterprises.
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 10:07 pm
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Chris wrote:
> On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 16:51:15 +1300, "~shady angel~"
> <angie.RemoveThis@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
>
>>
>> So you think a 60 KG rottie, grate dane, doberman or many other
>> types of dogs wouldn't have ripped your arm off and you could have
>> picked it up and throwen it or something?
> German Shepards are just as bad and so are rottweilers and great danes
> and a few other larger breeds.
>
>> I know what your trying to say I had a cavilier
>> king charles spanniel <tiny dog> attaked by some inbreed idiots pit
>> bull and Know what it's like I had that dog since I was 9 years old
>> it died when I was about 21 when he died <old age>
>> But I now own a pit bull type dog who is super friendly, loves kids
>> and is only aggressive if the other dog is.
>> I would neverlet him wonder or walk him offleash now he's older.
> But you did it when he was younger?
>
Yes before I knew better and as he was just a pup.

> Chris
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>> ~shady angel~
>
> If life seems jolly rotten
> There's something you've forgotten
> and thats to laugh and smile and dance and sing!
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