Anti-PETA ads in D.C.

dgk wrote:

<snip>
> I strongly believe in population control and believe that there are
> already too many humans on the earth and that we are destroying the
> planet. Not good in the long run for humanity either. To conclude, we
> have to kill in order to eat. We do not need to make animals suffer
> their entire lives for this to happen..

Yes, I agree, although I think we can reduce the death toll greatly.

The thing I find worst about our current use of animals, especially in
the Western world, is the way we warp and limit every aspect of their
lives, and frustrate their natural behaviors. Animals live and die in
the wild, often in violent and painful ways, but they at least own their
own lives and live free. We make animals into products, merchandise,
things, ignoring our kinship with them and our obligations of
stewardship. Our tyranny begins in the womb, where we control their
very physical form through breeding for characteristics WE find useful
or attractive, often to the detriment of the animal's health and
ability to survive on his/her own. We create cripples, and then
congratulate ourselves that we keep them alive, and breed for ever more
extreme and unnatural creatures -- whether as companion animals or
"food" animals. We keep them in unnatural situations, or create
unnatural situations. There is a difference in degree between the
starving stray on the city street, the chicken in a battery cage or
pig in a confinement cage, the fighting or racing dog, and the pampered
dog (often unhealthy) waiting for his owner to come home and let him
out to pee, or the bored parrot in his cage -- a difference, but only
one of degree, not kind. There are compensations, especially for loved
and respected companions kept by knowledgeable guardians, but it is
seldom the animal's choice as to whether those compensations make up
for the restrictions. Animals are our slaves, and, as with any slaves,
we may treat them well or badly, but they remain slaves. They should
be, as St. Francis put it, our brothers and sisters.

Rat
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"Gwen Watson" <gwen.TakeThisOut@ig.utexas.edu> wrote in message
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>
>
> rick etter wrote:
>
> >
> > The point is that animals die for the production of *all* your food, not
> > just the animals that are eaten.
> >
> > What
> > > animals are you referring to?
> > =====================
> > Mammals, birds, reptiles, fish, amphibians...
> > Millions upon millions, upon millions. Sliced, diced, shredded,
> > dis-membered, and poisoned, just to keep your veggies clean, convenient
and
> > cheap.
> >
> > Just because you may not eat an animal doesn't mean that they don't die
for
> > your food.
> > Or is that too much information for you to handle?
>
> Indeed that is true. And that isn't even the tip of the iceburg if you
> start including paper products. In which trees that are chopped
> down inhabit many animals, reptiles, insects etc
>
> There is no way on earth to breath and live and not be responsible
> for killing some live being. It just isn't possible.
==========================
And yet vegans make just that claim. Why is that? They pretend that by
just not eating meat that they somehow magically eliminate/reduce their
bloody footprints.
Not a one of them has ever been able to prove this bit of delusion and
deception.


>
> Gwen
>
>
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"dgk" <sonicechoes-spamless.TakeThisOut@hot-nospamp-mail.com> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 09:49:55 -0500, "rick etter"
> <retterstop.TakeThisOut@bright.net> wrote:
>
> >
> >"dgk" <sonicechoes-spamless.TakeThisOut@hot-nospamp-mail.com> wrote in message
> >news:3jsr30900e1fgor9tnu2fdvjd1igco3a0r@4ax.com...
> >> On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 16:48:05 -0500, "rick etter"
> >> <retterstop.TakeThisOut@bright.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> >We also kill animals for our food in far more cruel, inhumane ways
that
> >any
> >> >meat animal suffers. The difference is that we just slice, dice,
shred,
> >> >dis-member and poison them and then leave them to suffer, die, and
rot.
> >> >Haven't seen any vegan or PeTA demand that those deaths stop. Of
course
> >> >that would mean that you and they would actually be inconvenienced.
It's
> >> >far easier to just rant about what you think others are doing, right?
> >>
> >> Was this directed to me?
> >======================
> >Yes.
> >
> > I'm not sure what point you are making.
> >=================
> >The point is that animals die for the production of *all* your food, not
> >just the animals that are eaten.
> >
> >
>
>
> >What
> >> animals are you referring to?
> >=====================
> >Mammals, birds, reptiles, fish, amphibians...
> >Millions upon millions, upon millions. Sliced, diced, shredded,
> >dis-membered, and poisoned, just to keep your veggies clean, convenient
and
> >cheap.
> >
> >Just because you may not eat an animal doesn't mean that they don't die
for
> >your food.
> >Or is that too much information for you to handle?
> >
> >
>
> Not too much information but you did supply some claification that I
> think was missing in the previous post. You are supporting the
> contention that people eating a vegetarian diet kill animals by
> requiring land to grow and harvest vegetables. In the process of
> harvesting, threshers chop the heads off defenseless voles. I will
> likely surprise you by agreeing that this does happen. Whether more
> animal suffering occurs via this scenario or via factory farming I do
> not know. I suspect factory farming causes more suffering. However I
> do not belong to PETA and am not a Vegan.
==========================
I hate to break it to you, but mono-culture crop production *IS* factory
farming. It's very easy to show that eating certain meats will cause less
death and suffering of animals overall.


>
> The bottom line is that every living creature has to eat and will
> eventually die. I suppose the quality of life and length of life is
> what counts. Inherently I do not want living creatures to suffer and
> do what I can to avoid causing suffering.
============================
No, you don't. Just being here on usenet proves that. You have no survival
*need* to be here, you're here for entertainment. That entertainment
constributes to an ever increasing demand for power and communications.



I think the story of Noah's
> Ark tells us that we are to care for other creatures and not wipe them
> out. But yes, something is going to die so that I can eat. As Tom
> Paxton put is well, Don't Slay That Potato (it's never done nothin to
> you).
========================
yet that potatoe may have caused more animals to die than from replacing
those calories with the death of one grass fed animal or game animal.



>
> I strongly believe in population control and believe that there are
> already too many humans on the earth and that we are destroying the
> planet. Not good in the long run for humanity either. To conclude, we
> have to kill in order to eat. We do not need to make animals suffer
> their entire lives for this to happen..
=====================
And yet eating meat does mean that that happens. It's part of the lys and
delusions you're promoting for veganism, whether you want to admit you are
or not.

>
>
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"Rat & Swan" <labrat.TakeThisOut@cybermesa.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> dgk wrote:
>
> <snip>
> > I strongly believe in population control and believe that there are
> > already too many humans on the earth and that we are destroying the
> > planet. Not good in the long run for humanity either. To conclude, we
> > have to kill in order to eat. We do not need to make animals suffer
> > their entire lives for this to happen..
>
> Yes, I agree, although I think we can reduce the death toll greatly.
======================
Not by the way you live, killer.


>
> The thing I find worst about our current use of animals, especially in
> the Western world, is the way we warp and limit every aspect of their
> lives, and frustrate their natural behaviors.
========================
LOL Just as we warp they lives artificially in crop fields, ignorant dolt.


Animals live and die in
> the wild, often in violent and painful ways, but they at least own their
> own lives and live free.
========================
As do many meat animals. hy is it that you never mention that, killer? Too
busy ripping the skin off live mice?



We make animals into products, merchandise,
> things, ignoring our kinship with them and our obligations of
> stewardship.
==========================
And you kill just as many or more to produce the supposed 'cruelty-free'
substitutes. Why is that hypocrite?


Our tyranny begins in the womb, where we control their
> very physical form through breeding for characteristics WE find useful
> or attractive, often to the detriment of the animal's health and
> ability to survive on his/her own. We create cripples, and then
> congratulate ourselves that we keep them alive, and breed for ever more
> extreme and unnatural creatures -- whether as companion animals or
> "food" animals. We keep them in unnatural situations, or create
> unnatural situations. There is a difference in degree between the
> starving stray on the city street, the chicken in a battery cage or
> pig in a confinement cage, the fighting or racing dog, and the pampered
> dog (often unhealthy) waiting for his owner to come home and let him
> out to pee, or the bored parrot in his cage -- a difference, but only
> one of degree, not kind. There are compensations, especially for loved
> and respected companions kept by knowledgeable guardians, but it is
> seldom the animal's choice as to whether those compensations make up
> for the restrictions. Animals are our slaves, and, as with any slaves,
> we may treat them well or badly, but they remain slaves. They should
> be, as St. Francis put it, our brothers and sisters.
=============================
And yet, you still kill them watonly, despite your supposed compassion. Why
is that killer?

Again, you have nothing to prove that your 'ethics' are anything but a false
choice based only on a simple rule for your simple mind.




>
> Rat
>
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rick etter wrote:

(snip)

> You probably earmark your monies to the terrorists
> that PeTA supports.
>
If the FBI can't prove PETA "supports" terrorists or terrorists groups,
you sure as hell can't. What PETA does do is solict money for legal
defense funds and, though I am at odds with PETA over its position on
feral cats, I gladly help pay for competent legal counsel for animal
activists.
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"frlpwr" <frlpwr.DeleteThis@flash.net> wrote in message news:403AA132.2FD5@flash.net...
> rick etter wrote:
>
> (snip)
>
> > You probably earmark your monies to the terrorists
> > that PeTA supports.
> >
> If the FBI can't prove PETA "supports" terrorists or terrorists groups,
> you sure as hell can't.
------------------------
Sure I can when they pay the legal fees for people that commit crimes. Too
bad you're too blind to understand that, killer.


What PETA does do is solict money for legal
> defense funds and, though I am at odds with PETA over its position on
> feral cats, I gladly help pay for competent legal counsel for animal
> activists.
====================
Activists don't commit crimes, terrorists do. It's nice that you don't feel
up to obeying the law, killer. But then, we already know that your 'ethics'
are lacking anyway.

>
>
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On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 14:11:30 -0500, "rick etter"
<retterstop RemoveThis @bright.net> wrote:

>
>"dgk" <sonicechoes-spamless RemoveThis @hot-nospamp-mail.com> wrote in message
>news:or5s301ee8f8hkdg1i51lf1hlsgoum6nll@4ax.com...
>> On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 09:49:55 -0500, "rick etter"
>> <retterstop RemoveThis @bright.net> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >"dgk" <sonicechoes-spamless RemoveThis @hot-nospamp-mail.com> wrote in message
>> >news:3jsr30900e1fgor9tnu2fdvjd1igco3a0r@4ax.com...
>> >> On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 16:48:05 -0500, "rick etter"
>> >> <retterstop RemoveThis @bright.net> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >We also kill animals for our food in far more cruel, inhumane ways
>that
>> >any
>> >> >meat animal suffers. The difference is that we just slice, dice,
>shred,
>> >> >dis-member and poison them and then leave them to suffer, die, and
>rot.
>> >> >Haven't seen any vegan or PeTA demand that those deaths stop. Of
>course
>> >> >that would mean that you and they would actually be inconvenienced.
>It's
>> >> >far easier to just rant about what you think others are doing, right?
>> >>
>> >> Was this directed to me?
>> >======================
>> >Yes.
>> >
>> > I'm not sure what point you are making.
>> >=================
>> >The point is that animals die for the production of *all* your food, not
>> >just the animals that are eaten.
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>> >What
>> >> animals are you referring to?
>> >=====================
>> >Mammals, birds, reptiles, fish, amphibians...
>> >Millions upon millions, upon millions. Sliced, diced, shredded,
>> >dis-membered, and poisoned, just to keep your veggies clean, convenient
>and
>> >cheap.
>> >
>> >Just because you may not eat an animal doesn't mean that they don't die
>for
>> >your food.
>> >Or is that too much information for you to handle?
>> >
>> >
>>
>> Not too much information but you did supply some claification that I
>> think was missing in the previous post. You are supporting the
>> contention that people eating a vegetarian diet kill animals by
>> requiring land to grow and harvest vegetables. In the process of
>> harvesting, threshers chop the heads off defenseless voles. I will
>> likely surprise you by agreeing that this does happen. Whether more
>> animal suffering occurs via this scenario or via factory farming I do
>> not know. I suspect factory farming causes more suffering. However I
>> do not belong to PETA and am not a Vegan.
>==========================
>I hate to break it to you, but mono-culture crop production *IS* factory
>farming. It's very easy to show that eating certain meats will cause less
>death and suffering of animals overall.
>
>
>>
>> The bottom line is that every living creature has to eat and will
>> eventually die. I suppose the quality of life and length of life is
>> what counts. Inherently I do not want living creatures to suffer and
>> do what I can to avoid causing suffering.
>============================
>No, you don't. Just being here on usenet proves that. You have no survival
>*need* to be here, you're here for entertainment. That entertainment
>constributes to an ever increasing demand for power and communications.
>
>
>
> I think the story of Noah's
>> Ark tells us that we are to care for other creatures and not wipe them
>> out. But yes, something is going to die so that I can eat. As Tom
>> Paxton put is well, Don't Slay That Potato (it's never done nothin to
>> you).
>========================
>yet that potatoe may have caused more animals to die than from replacing
>those calories with the death of one grass fed animal or game animal.
>
>
>
>>
>> I strongly believe in population control and believe that there are
>> already too many humans on the earth and that we are destroying the
>> planet. Not good in the long run for humanity either. To conclude, we
>> have to kill in order to eat. We do not need to make animals suffer
>> their entire lives for this to happen..
>=====================
>And yet eating meat does mean that that happens. It's part of the lys and
>delusions you're promoting for veganism, whether you want to admit you are
>or not.

So have you found a way to live without killing anything? Of course
we're killers. I said that. We have no choice except to go the
photosynthesis route and my understanding is that lying in the sun
causes cancer. One question though Rick. Why are you so nasty?
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"dgk" <sonicechoes-spamless.TakeThisOut@hot-nospamp-mail.com> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 14:11:30 -0500, "rick etter"
> <retterstop.TakeThisOut@bright.net> wrote:
>
> >
> >"dgk" <sonicechoes-spamless.TakeThisOut@hot-nospamp-mail.com> wrote in message
> >news:or5s301ee8f8hkdg1i51lf1hlsgoum6nll@4ax.com...
> >> On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 09:49:55 -0500, "rick etter"
> >> <retterstop.TakeThisOut@bright.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >"dgk" <sonicechoes-spamless.TakeThisOut@hot-nospamp-mail.com> wrote in message
> >> >news:3jsr30900e1fgor9tnu2fdvjd1igco3a0r@4ax.com...
> >> >> On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 16:48:05 -0500, "rick etter"
> >> >> <retterstop.TakeThisOut@bright.net> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >We also kill animals for our food in far more cruel, inhumane ways
> >that
> >> >any
> >> >> >meat animal suffers. The difference is that we just slice, dice,
> >shred,
> >> >> >dis-member and poison them and then leave them to suffer, die, and
> >rot.
> >> >> >Haven't seen any vegan or PeTA demand that those deaths stop. Of
> >course
> >> >> >that would mean that you and they would actually be inconvenienced.
> >It's
> >> >> >far easier to just rant about what you think others are doing,
right?
> >> >>
> >> >> Was this directed to me?
> >> >======================
> >> >Yes.
> >> >
> >> > I'm not sure what point you are making.
> >> >=================
> >> >The point is that animals die for the production of *all* your food,
not
> >> >just the animals that are eaten.
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >> >What
> >> >> animals are you referring to?
> >> >=====================
> >> >Mammals, birds, reptiles, fish, amphibians...
> >> >Millions upon millions, upon millions. Sliced, diced, shredded,
> >> >dis-membered, and poisoned, just to keep your veggies clean,
convenient
> >and
> >> >cheap.
> >> >
> >> >Just because you may not eat an animal doesn't mean that they don't
die
> >for
> >> >your food.
> >> >Or is that too much information for you to handle?
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >> Not too much information but you did supply some claification that I
> >> think was missing in the previous post. You are supporting the
> >> contention that people eating a vegetarian diet kill animals by
> >> requiring land to grow and harvest vegetables. In the process of
> >> harvesting, threshers chop the heads off defenseless voles. I will
> >> likely surprise you by agreeing that this does happen. Whether more
> >> animal suffering occurs via this scenario or via factory farming I do
> >> not know. I suspect factory farming causes more suffering. However I
> >> do not belong to PETA and am not a Vegan.
> >==========================
> >I hate to break it to you, but mono-culture crop production *IS* factory
> >farming. It's very easy to show that eating certain meats will cause
less
> >death and suffering of animals overall.
> >
> >
> >>
> >> The bottom line is that every living creature has to eat and will
> >> eventually die. I suppose the quality of life and length of life is
> >> what counts. Inherently I do not want living creatures to suffer and
> >> do what I can to avoid causing suffering.
> >============================
> >No, you don't. Just being here on usenet proves that. You have no
survival
> >*need* to be here, you're here for entertainment. That entertainment
> >constributes to an ever increasing demand for power and communications.
> >
> >
> >
> > I think the story of Noah's
> >> Ark tells us that we are to care for other creatures and not wipe them
> >> out. But yes, something is going to die so that I can eat. As Tom
> >> Paxton put is well, Don't Slay That Potato (it's never done nothin to
> >> you).
> >========================
> >yet that potatoe may have caused more animals to die than from replacing
> >those calories with the death of one grass fed animal or game animal.
> >
> >
> >
> >>
> >> I strongly believe in population control and believe that there are
> >> already too many humans on the earth and that we are destroying the
> >> planet. Not good in the long run for humanity either. To conclude, we
> >> have to kill in order to eat. We do not need to make animals suffer
> >> their entire lives for this to happen..
> >=====================
> >And yet eating meat does mean that that happens. It's part of the lys
and
> >delusions you're promoting for veganism, whether you want to admit you
are
> >or not.
>
> So have you found a way to live without killing anything?
==========================
Nope, but are pretending to. Remember your statement above, "Inherently I
do not want living creatures to suffer and
do what I can to avoid causing suffering."?
You really believe nothing of the sort. All you really do is spew about
what you think others are doing. All your focus is on eating meat, as if
when you stop that you automatically suspend reality and life for all
animals becomes heaven on earth. It's a false idea, and your diet/lifestyle
does nothing to reduce the overall harm you cause. that's just the typical
delusions from those that like to pretemd that they're doing something.



Of course
> we're killers. I said that.
=======================
And then turned around and made th same idiotic statement, "Inherently I do
not want living creatures to suffer and
do what I can to avoid causing suffering.".


We have no choice except to go the
> photosynthesis route and my understanding is that lying in the sun
> causes cancer.
=========================
Why do you think that that is the only choice? Why does not eating meat
automatically mean you cause less death and suffering to animals? You've
never shown how this is true. Care to give it a go?


One question though Rick. Why are you so nasty?
========================
Why is when someone gets called on their ignorance and stupidity that the
onther person is nasty? That you don't like, nor undet=rstand the truth
doesn't make it not so. No where here was i 'nasty' to you. Your
ignorance and stupidity are what is nasty, fool.
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>

Ok then, we're on topic. Here, I got this in email today:

>In the beginning God covered the earth with broccoli and cauliflower and
>spinach, green and yellow and red vegetables of all kinds, so Man and
>Woman would live long and healthy lives.
>
>Then using God's bountiful gifts, Satan created ice cream and doughnuts.
>And Satan said, "You want hot fudge with that?" And Man said "Yes!" and
>Woman said, "I'll have another with sprinkles." And lo, they gained 10 pounds.
>
>So God said, "Try my fresh green garden salad."
>And Satan presented crumbled Bleu Cheese dressing and garlic toast on the
>side. And Man and Woman unfastened their belts following the repast.
>
>God then said, "I have sent you heart healthy vegetable and olive oil in
>which to lightly sauté the wholesome vegetables."
> And Satan brought forth deep fried coconut shrimp, chicken-fried steak
> so big it needed its own platter and chocolate cheesecake for dessert.
> And Man's glucose levels spiked through the roof.
>
>God then brought forth running shoes so that his Children might lose those
>extra pounds.
>And Satan came forth with a cable TV with remote control so Man would not
>have to toil changing the channels. And man and woman laughed and cried
>before the flickering light and started wearing stretch jogging suits.
>
>Then God brought forth lean meat so that Man might consume fewer calories
>and still satisfy his appetite.
>And Satan created the 99-cent double cheeseburger, and said, "You want
>fries with that?" And Man replied, "Yes! And super size 'em!" And Man went
>into cardiac arrest.
>
>And God sighed and created quadruple bypass surgery.
>Then Satan created HMOs.
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I see you're taking dishonesty lessons from twits the idiot now, eh? What's
the matter, can't discuss anything I posted, so you just snip it all out?
Why is that? Trying to get rid of the evidence of your stupidity, or you
don't have anything to offer? I imagine, judging from the quality of your
posts so far, that either is the case.




"dgk" <sonicechoes-spamless RemoveThis @hot-nospamp-mail.com> wrote in message
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> >
>
> Ok then, we're on topic. Here, I got this in email today:
>
> >In the beginning God covered the earth with broccoli and cauliflower and
> >spinach, green and yellow and red vegetables of all kinds, so Man and
> >Woman would live long and healthy lives.
> >
> >Then using God's bountiful gifts, Satan created ice cream and doughnuts.
> >And Satan said, "You want hot fudge with that?" And Man said "Yes!" and
> >Woman said, "I'll have another with sprinkles." And lo, they gained 10
pounds.
> >
> >So God said, "Try my fresh green garden salad."
> >And Satan presented crumbled Bleu Cheese dressing and garlic toast on the
> >side. And Man and Woman unfastened their belts following the repast.
> >
> >God then said, "I have sent you heart healthy vegetable and olive oil in
> >which to lightly sauté the wholesome vegetables."
> > And Satan brought forth deep fried coconut shrimp, chicken-fried steak
> > so big it needed its own platter and chocolate cheesecake for dessert.
> > And Man's glucose levels spiked through the roof.
> >
> >God then brought forth running shoes so that his Children might lose
those
> >extra pounds.
> >And Satan came forth with a cable TV with remote control so Man would not
> >have to toil changing the channels. And man and woman laughed and cried
> >before the flickering light and started wearing stretch jogging suits.
> >
> >Then God brought forth lean meat so that Man might consume fewer calories
> >and still satisfy his appetite.
> >And Satan created the 99-cent double cheeseburger, and said, "You want
> >fries with that?" And Man replied, "Yes! And super size 'em!" And Man
went
> >into cardiac arrest.
> >
> >And God sighed and created quadruple bypass surgery.
> >Then Satan created HMOs.
>
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On Fri, 27 Feb 2004 13:17:01 -0500, "rick etter"
<retterstop RemoveThis @bright.net> wrote:

>
>
>I see you're taking dishonesty lessons from twits the idiot now, eh? What's
>the matter, can't discuss anything I posted, so you just snip it all out?
>Why is that? Trying to get rid of the evidence of your stupidity, or you
>don't have anything to offer? I imagine, judging from the quality of your
>posts so far, that either is the case.
>
>
>
>
>"dgk" <sonicechoes-spamless RemoveThis @hot-nospamp-mail.com> wrote in message
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>> >
>>
>> Ok then, we're on topic. Here, I got this in email today:
>>
>> >In the beginning God covered the earth with broccoli and cauliflower and
>> >spinach, green and yellow and red vegetables of all kinds, so Man and
>> >Woman would live long and healthy lives.
>> >
>> >Then using God's bountiful gifts, Satan created ice cream and doughnuts.
>> >And Satan said, "You want hot fudge with that?" And Man said "Yes!" and
>> >Woman said, "I'll have another with sprinkles." And lo, they gained 10
>pounds.
>> >
>> >So God said, "Try my fresh green garden salad."
>> >And Satan presented crumbled Bleu Cheese dressing and garlic toast on the
>> >side. And Man and Woman unfastened their belts following the repast.
>> >
>> >God then said, "I have sent you heart healthy vegetable and olive oil in
>> >which to lightly sauté the wholesome vegetables."
>> > And Satan brought forth deep fried coconut shrimp, chicken-fried steak
>> > so big it needed its own platter and chocolate cheesecake for dessert.
>> > And Man's glucose levels spiked through the roof.
>> >
>> >God then brought forth running shoes so that his Children might lose
>those
>> >extra pounds.
>> >And Satan came forth with a cable TV with remote control so Man would not
>> >have to toil changing the channels. And man and woman laughed and cried
>> >before the flickering light and started wearing stretch jogging suits.
>> >
>> >Then God brought forth lean meat so that Man might consume fewer calories
>> >and still satisfy his appetite.
>> >And Satan created the 99-cent double cheeseburger, and said, "You want
>> >fries with that?" And Man replied, "Yes! And super size 'em!" And Man
>went
>> >into cardiac arrest.
>> >
>> >And God sighed and created quadruple bypass surgery.
>> >Then Satan created HMOs.
>>
>
Plonk.
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"dgk" <sonicechoes-spamless DeleteThis @hot-nospamp-mail.com> wrote in message
news:5o4v30p2e7qh6h1hcsvbrnt5v2nurnujok@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 27 Feb 2004 13:17:01 -0500, "rick etter"
> <retterstop DeleteThis @bright.net> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >I see you're taking dishonesty lessons from twits the idiot now, eh?
What's
> >the matter, can't discuss anything I posted, so you just snip it all out?
> >Why is that? Trying to get rid of the evidence of your stupidity, or you
> >don't have anything to offer? I imagine, judging from the quality of
your
> >posts so far, that either is the case.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >"dgk" <sonicechoes-spamless DeleteThis @hot-nospamp-mail.com> wrote in message
> >news:j60v30h4sqatidq7sj0sep7ot84i6vkk1h@4ax.com...
> >> >
> >>
> >> Ok then, we're on topic. Here, I got this in email today:
> >>
> >> >In the beginning God covered the earth with broccoli and cauliflower
and
> >> >spinach, green and yellow and red vegetables of all kinds, so Man and
> >> >Woman would live long and healthy lives.
> >> >
> >> >Then using God's bountiful gifts, Satan created ice cream and
doughnuts.
> >> >And Satan said, "You want hot fudge with that?" And Man said "Yes!"
and
> >> >Woman said, "I'll have another with sprinkles." And lo, they gained 10
> >pounds.
> >> >
> >> >So God said, "Try my fresh green garden salad."
> >> >And Satan presented crumbled Bleu Cheese dressing and garlic toast on
the
> >> >side. And Man and Woman unfastened their belts following the repast.
> >> >
> >> >God then said, "I have sent you heart healthy vegetable and olive oil
in
> >> >which to lightly sauté the wholesome vegetables."
> >> > And Satan brought forth deep fried coconut shrimp, chicken-fried
steak
> >> > so big it needed its own platter and chocolate cheesecake for
dessert.
> >> > And Man's glucose levels spiked through the roof.
> >> >
> >> >God then brought forth running shoes so that his Children might lose
> >those
> >> >extra pounds.
> >> >And Satan came forth with a cable TV with remote control so Man would
not
> >> >have to toil changing the channels. And man and woman laughed and
cried
> >> >before the flickering light and started wearing stretch jogging suits.
> >> >
> >> >Then God brought forth lean meat so that Man might consume fewer
calories
> >> >and still satisfy his appetite.
> >> >And Satan created the 99-cent double cheeseburger, and said, "You want
> >> >fries with that?" And Man replied, "Yes! And super size 'em!" And Man
> >went
> >> >into cardiac arrest.
> >> >
> >> >And God sighed and created quadruple bypass surgery.
> >> >Then Satan created HMOs.
> >>
> >
> Plonk.
=================
Ah yes, run away little boy. You've just proven that you cannot defend your
stupidity nor refute what I have said. Typical.

Now, go have that nice blood drenched breakfast, killer.
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