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Since: Nov 14, 2005 Posts: 43
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(Msg. 16) Posted: Wed May 24, 2006 10:24 pm
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Karen Winter wrote:
> Leif Erikson wrote:
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> Karen Winter wrote:
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> >>So why does the cat do it? What does the cat get out of the
> >>effort of carrying the mouse back to the house, and picking a
> >>particular spot to drop it? There has to be something.
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> > Why don't you ask a few of them? It would be a perfect question to pop
> > to a couple of 'em in the middle of a shampoo and nail trim.
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> As I thought,
You don't think, Karen - you emote.
As I told you, Karen, it doesn't matter what I think it *is*. In the
context of this discussion, it only matters what I say it is not. It
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Since: Nov 20, 2005 Posts: 102
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(Msg. 17) Posted: Wed May 24, 2006 10:58 pm
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Leif Erikson wrote:
Glorfindel wrote:
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>>So why does the cat do it? What does the cat get out of the
>>effort of carrying the mouse back to the house, and picking a
>>particular spot to drop it? There has to be something.
> Why don't you ask a few of them?
As I thought, your answer is, "I haven't a clue."
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(Msg. 18) Posted: Thu May 25, 2006 10:15 am
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<dh@.> wrote in message
> What do you think they're doing Goo, if you're capable of thinking?
> Why do you think they're doing it Goo, if you're capable of thinking?
I suspect you are arguing with a 14 year old.
Perhaps an exceptionally precocious one, but still, someone with the stunted
clinical thinking abilities typical of early teens.
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(Msg. 19) Posted: Thu May 25, 2006 11:22 am
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On Wed, 24 May 2006 19:48:14 -0600, Glorfindel <notgiven.TakeThisOut@all.com> wrote:
>Goo wrote:
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>...
>> It isn't important what I think it *is*.
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>...
>Well, yes it is. It's an indication of how you believe a cat's
>mind works.
Goo amusingly doesn't know what he thinks...though sometimes
he does insist that he disagrees with himself...
>Obviously, it isn't a purely instinctive act,
>since there's no instinct to feed humans in the repertoire of
>wild cats. Obviously, it requires some sort of...anticipation,
>shall we say?...for the cat to carry the mouse back to a house
>rather than eat it or drop it right on the spot.
You've gotten way over the Goober's head now. You probably
even made him cry.
>It's an
>artificial interaction which has no exact parallel in nature.
How could you know that?
>So why does the cat do it? What does the cat get out of the
>effort of carrying the mouse back to the house, and picking a
>particular spot to drop it? There has to be something.
>
>If you haven't a clue, that's a reasonable answer too. :)
Clueless Goo has no clue, and Goo is unaware of that too. >> Stay informed about: Animal emotions - I |
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(Msg. 20) Posted: Fri May 26, 2006 1:00 pm
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Fuckwit David Harrison, ignorant pig-sodomizing goober cracker, lied:
> On Thu, 25 May 2006 11:13:09 -0600, Karen Winter wrote:
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> >Fuckwit David Harrison, ignorant pig-sodomizing goober cracker, lied:
> >> On Wed, 24 May 2006 19:48:14 -0600, Karen Winter wrote:
> >
> >So, perhaps they see their
> >human(s) in that relationship to them in some way, but exactly how
> >seems obscure.
>
> I've been led to believe
Uncle Remus.
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Since: Apr 03, 2005 Posts: 409
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(Msg. 21) Posted: Fri May 26, 2006 3:45 pm
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On Thu, 25 May 2006 10:15:44 -0600, "William Robb" <w_just_two_underscores_robb.DeleteThis@accesscomm.ca> wrote:
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><dh@.> wrote in message
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>> What do you think they're doing Goo, if you're capable of thinking?
>> Why do you think they're doing it Goo, if you're capable of thinking?
>
>I suspect you are arguing with a 14 year old.
>Perhaps an exceptionally precocious one, but still, someone with the stunted
>clinical thinking abilities typical of early teens.
Not exactly, because Goo is a good bit older even though he acts
like a child, and thinks like one. I believe he's a classic example of
someone who may have been somewhat intelligent in his teens, but
that worked against him. Somewhere along the way--obviously in
his very young years--it seems that Goo decided he knew it all and
that everyone else is an idiot, and as a result Goo himself has not
progressed beyond that point. Goober has believed ignorant
absurdities for so long that by now he is clueless as to how clueless
he is. We see that quite amusingly Clueless Goo often can't even
explain things to himself, yet still appears to remain confident that
his absurd beliefs are correct in spite of the fact. Goo is extremely
shallow by nature resulting in a stupid individual because he makes
no effort to overcome it, and the end result is a both stupid and
ignorant individual who believes he's a genius, which earned him
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Since: Dec 26, 2005 Posts: 139
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(Msg. 22) Posted: Fri May 26, 2006 6:38 pm
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bill.reich.TakeThisOut@taylorandfrancis.com wrote:
> Leif Erikson wrote:
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>>Fuckwit David Harrison, ignorant dog-sodomizing cracker, lied:
>>
>>>On 17 May 2006, Leif Erikson wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Cats do not have a concept of "gift" or "present".
>>>
>>> Then why do you think they present people with things, Leif?
>>
>>They don't. YOU interpret it, wrongly, as them "presenting" you with
>>something. They aren't doing that.
>
>
> You are twooly a loon. You might be right, in fact you are right, that
> we have no idea what is going on in those little rocky skulls but a cat
> is, or often is, doing exactly that.
No, it is not give you a "gift", nor is it exhibiting
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(Msg. 23) Posted: Fri May 26, 2006 6:38 pm
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On Fri, 26 May 2006 Goo wrote:
>bill.reich@taylorandfrancis.com wrote:
>>Goo wrote:
>>
>>>Fuckwit David Harrison, ignorant dog-sodomizing cracker, lied:
>>>
>>>>On 17 May 2006,Goo wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Cats do not have a concept of "gift" or "present".
>>>>
>>>> Then why do you think they present people with things, Goo?
>>>
>>>They don't. YOU interpret it, wrongly, as them "presenting" you with
>>>something. They aren't doing that.
>>
>>
>> You are twooly a loon. You might be right, in fact you are right, that
>> we have no idea what is going on in those little rocky skulls but a cat
>> is, or often is, doing exactly that.
>
>No, it is not give you a "gift"
Is it just a loan, Goo? >> Stay informed about: Animal emotions - I |
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(Msg. 24) Posted: Fri May 26, 2006 8:20 pm
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Fuckwit David Harrison, ignorant pig-sodomizing goober
cracker, lied:
> On Fri, 26 May 2006 Leif Erikson helpfully wrote:
>
>
>>bill.reich@taylorandfrancis.com wrote:
>>
>>>Leif Erikson helpfully wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Fuckwit David Harrison, ignorant dog-sodomizing cracker, lied:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>On 17 May 2006,Leif Erikson wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Cats do not have a concept of "gift" or "present".
>>>>>
>>>>> Then why do you think they present people with things, Goo?
>>>>
>>>>They don't. YOU interpret it, wrongly, as them "presenting" you with
>>>>something. They aren't doing that.
>>>
>>>
>>>You are twooly a loon. You might be right, in fact you are right, that
>>>we have no idea what is going on in those little rocky skulls but a cat
>>>is, or often is, doing exactly that.
>>
>>No, it is not given to you as a "gift"
>
>
> Is it just a
It's nothing, Fuckwit. >> Stay informed about: Animal emotions - I |
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(Msg. 25) Posted: Fri May 26, 2006 10:08 pm
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Karen Winter wrote:
>
> Leif wrote:
What Fuckwit, ignorant pig-sodomizing goober cracker,
wrote was: "I've been led to believe [some bullshit]."
In response, Sylvia wrote:
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>> Uncle Remus.
>
>
>> That isn't a credible source on animal behavior, Fuckwit.
>
>
> What he actually wrote was [snip Karen's bullshit]
What he has been led to believe is a lot of southern
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(Msg. 26) Posted: Sat May 27, 2006 11:25 am
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On Fri, 26 May 2006 Goo wrote:
>Fuckwit David Harrison, ignorant pig-sodomizing goober
>cracker, lied:
>
>> On Fri, 26 May 2006 Goo wrote:
>>
>>
>>>bill.reich@taylorandfrancis.com wrote:
>>>
>>>>Goo wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Fuckwit David Harrison, ignorant dog-sodomizing cracker, lied:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>On 17 May 2006 Goo wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Cats do not have a concept of "gift" or "present".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Then why do you think they present people with things, Goo?
>>>>>
>>>>>They don't. YOU interpret it, wrongly, as them "presenting" you with
>>>>>something. They aren't doing that.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>You are twooly a loon. You might be right, in fact you are right, that
>>>>we have no idea what is going on in those little rocky skulls but a cat
>>>>is, or often is, doing exactly that.
>>>
>>>No, it is not given to you as a "gift"
>>
>>
>> Is it just a loan, Goo?
>
>It's nothing
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(Msg. 27) Posted: Sat May 27, 2006 4:13 pm
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Fuckwit David Harrison, ignorant pig-sodomizing goober
cracker, lied:
> On Fri, 26 May 2006 Leif Erikson helpfully wrote:
>
>
>>Fuckwit David Harrison, ignorant pig-sodomizing goober
>>cracker, lied:
>>
>>
>>>On Fri, 26 May 2006 Leif Erikson helpfully wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>bill.reich@taylorandfrancis.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Leif Erikson helpfully wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Fuckwit David Harrison, ignorant dog-sodomizing cracker, lied:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On 17 May 2006 Leif Erikson helpfully wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Cats do not have a concept of "gift" or "present".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Then why do you think they present people with things, Goo?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>They don't. YOU interpret it, wrongly, as them "presenting" you with
>>>>>>something. They aren't doing that.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>You are twooly a loon. You might be right, in fact you are right, that
>>>>>we have no idea what is going on in those little rocky skulls but a cat
>>>>>is, or often is, doing exactly that.
>>>>
>>>>No, it is not given to you as a "gift"
>>>
>>>
>>> Is it just a loan, Leif?
>>
>>It's nothing, Fuckwit.
>
>
> How can we be discussing nothing, Leif?
Where you're concerned? It *always* comes down to
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