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Since: Aug 09, 2003
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2003 1:08 am
Post subject: African Cichlids
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I bought a 55 gallon tank, set it up, bought 2 African cichlids from Petland
Discounts (that is how they were labeled in their aquarium)... later I
bought 5 more Africian Cichlids from a pure fish store and I know there
names... I would like to know the names of the two I bought at Petland.. how
can I show photos here and would that help?
Also, one is very very agression (one of the petland ones), he has taken
over a cave in the rocks and runs every other fish (except Clyde the 4 1/2
inch pleco) away... these are all baby fish, I know NetMAx usually has good
advice as do others... please help, I don't know if I should return the
super aggressive fish or not? |
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Since: Jun 24, 2003
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2003 12:16 pm
Post subject: Re: African Cichlids [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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It doesn't matter if you bring the aggressive one back. If you do, one or
more of the other seemingly peaceful fish will take over. That is the nature
of an African cichlid tank. Pecking orders are established and the top dogs
will chase and harass the other tankmates. The best defense is 1) A big
tank. Like 6-10 feet. 2) Lots and lots of caves and hiding places. 3)
Overcrowd to distribute the aggression. 4)Keep temperatures at the lower end
of the safe range. 5)Feed lightly and often. Even with these measures, you
will still have to get used to a certain level of chasing/fighting in your
tank.
IMO a typical 4-foot 55 gallon tank is inappropriate for African cichlids.
Most of the time, this size tank will be a rotating death generator and you
will find yourself visiting the pet store once a month to replace those at
the bottom of the pecking order who will typically 1) hide a lot, 2) stop
eating, and then 3) die.
African cichlids can be seductive with their coloration and beauty. But if
you're after a peaceful serene fish tank, you picked the wrong fish.
-Marc
"JEFFREY STREET" <themonarch RemoveThis @optonline.net> wrote in message
news:zSz0b.126548$_R5.47273876@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net...
> I bought a 55 gallon tank, set it up, bought 2 African cichlids from
Petland
> Discounts (that is how they were labeled in their aquarium)... later I
> bought 5 more Africian Cichlids from a pure fish store and I know there
> names... I would like to know the names of the two I bought at Petland..
how
> can I show photos here and would that help?
>
> Also, one is very very agression (one of the petland ones), he has taken
> over a cave in the rocks and runs every other fish (except Clyde the 4 1/2
> inch pleco) away... these are all baby fish, I know NetMAx usually has
good
> advice as do others... please help, I don't know if I should return the
> super aggressive fish or not?
>
> |
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Since: Aug 21, 2003
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2003 5:31 pm
Post subject: Re: African Cichlids [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Very well said!!
"Marc88" <scamp1 DeleteThis @idt.net> wrote in message news:<R6n2b.16579$kF1.9966@nwrdny02.gnilink.net>...
> It doesn't matter if you bring the aggressive one back. If you do, one or
> more of the other seemingly peaceful fish will take over. That is the nature
> of an African cichlid tank. Pecking orders are established and the top dogs
> will chase and harass the other tankmates. The best defense is 1) A big
> tank. Like 6-10 feet. 2) Lots and lots of caves and hiding places. 3)
> Overcrowd to distribute the aggression. 4)Keep temperatures at the lower end
> of the safe range. 5)Feed lightly and often. Even with these measures, you
> will still have to get used to a certain level of chasing/fighting in your
> tank.
>
> IMO a typical 4-foot 55 gallon tank is inappropriate for African cichlids.
> Most of the time, this size tank will be a rotating death generator and you
> will find yourself visiting the pet store once a month to replace those at
> the bottom of the pecking order who will typically 1) hide a lot, 2) stop
> eating, and then 3) die.
>
> African cichlids can be seductive with their coloration and beauty. But if
> you're after a peaceful serene fish tank, you picked the wrong fish.
>
> -Marc
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "JEFFREY STREET" <themonarch DeleteThis @optonline.net> wrote in message
> news:zSz0b.126548$_R5.47273876@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net...
> > I bought a 55 gallon tank, set it up, bought 2 African cichlids from
> Petland
> > Discounts (that is how they were labeled in their aquarium)... later I
> > bought 5 more Africian Cichlids from a pure fish store and I know there
> > names... I would like to know the names of the two I bought at Petland..
> how
> > can I show photos here and would that help?
> >
> > Also, one is very very agression (one of the petland ones), he has taken
> > over a cave in the rocks and runs every other fish (except Clyde the 4 1/2
> > inch pleco) away... these are all baby fish, I know NetMAx usually has
> good
> > advice as do others... please help, I don't know if I should return the
> > super aggressive fish or not?
> >
> > >> Stay informed about: African Cichlids |
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Since: Jul 30, 2003
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2003 3:55 pm
Post subject: Re: African Cichlids [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Ive got a 55..with 25 fish in it..all full grown
Yellow labs,
Ps. Zebra Nkhata Bay
Cyn. Afra Cobue
Mel. Johanni Chimsulu
and it certainly is not a "rotating death generator" You just have to make sure
you have good ratios of Male to Female, and that you keep similiar levels of
aggresssion.
Marc88 wrote:
> It doesn't matter if you bring the aggressive one back. If you do, one or
> more of the other seemingly peaceful fish will take over. That is the nature
> of an African cichlid tank. Pecking orders are established and the top dogs
> will chase and harass the other tankmates. The best defense is 1) A big
> tank. Like 6-10 feet. 2) Lots and lots of caves and hiding places. 3)
> Overcrowd to distribute the aggression. 4)Keep temperatures at the lower end
> of the safe range. 5)Feed lightly and often. Even with these measures, you
> will still have to get used to a certain level of chasing/fighting in your
> tank.
>
> IMO a typical 4-foot 55 gallon tank is inappropriate for African cichlids.
> Most of the time, this size tank will be a rotating death generator and you
> will find yourself visiting the pet store once a month to replace those at
> the bottom of the pecking order who will typically 1) hide a lot, 2) stop
> eating, and then 3) die.
>
> African cichlids can be seductive with their coloration and beauty. But if
> you're after a peaceful serene fish tank, you picked the wrong fish.
>
> -Marc
>
> "JEFFREY STREET" <themonarch.RemoveThis@optonline.net> wrote in message
> news:zSz0b.126548$_R5.47273876@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net...
> > I bought a 55 gallon tank, set it up, bought 2 African cichlids from
> Petland
> > Discounts (that is how they were labeled in their aquarium)... later I
> > bought 5 more Africian Cichlids from a pure fish store and I know there
> > names... I would like to know the names of the two I bought at Petland..
> how
> > can I show photos here and would that help?
> >
> > Also, one is very very agression (one of the petland ones), he has taken
> > over a cave in the rocks and runs every other fish (except Clyde the 4 1/2
> > inch pleco) away... these are all baby fish, I know NetMAx usually has
> good
> > advice as do others... please help, I don't know if I should return the
> > super aggressive fish or not?
> >
> > >> Stay informed about: African Cichlids |
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2003 10:56 pm
Post subject: Re: African Cichlids [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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how do you know male to female at an early age of the fish?
"Rich Conley" <rconley81.RemoveThis@hotmailGETSLOTSOFSPAM.com> wrote in message
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> Ive got a 55..with 25 fish in it..all full grown
>
> Yellow labs,
> Ps. Zebra Nkhata Bay
> Cyn. Afra Cobue
> Mel. Johanni Chimsulu
>
> and it certainly is not a "rotating death generator" You just have to make
sure
> you have good ratios of Male to Female, and that you keep similiar levels
of
> aggresssion.
>
> Marc88 wrote:
>
> > It doesn't matter if you bring the aggressive one back. If you do, one
or
> > more of the other seemingly peaceful fish will take over. That is the
nature
> > of an African cichlid tank. Pecking orders are established and the top
dogs
> > will chase and harass the other tankmates. The best defense is 1) A big
> > tank. Like 6-10 feet. 2) Lots and lots of caves and hiding places. 3)
> > Overcrowd to distribute the aggression. 4)Keep temperatures at the lower
end
> > of the safe range. 5)Feed lightly and often. Even with these measures,
you
> > will still have to get used to a certain level of chasing/fighting in
your
> > tank.
> >
> > IMO a typical 4-foot 55 gallon tank is inappropriate for African
cichlids.
> > Most of the time, this size tank will be a rotating death generator and
you
> > will find yourself visiting the pet store once a month to replace those
at
> > the bottom of the pecking order who will typically 1) hide a lot, 2)
stop
> > eating, and then 3) die.
> >
> > African cichlids can be seductive with their coloration and beauty. But
if
> > you're after a peaceful serene fish tank, you picked the wrong fish.
> >
> > -Marc
> >
> > "JEFFREY STREET" <themonarch.RemoveThis@optonline.net> wrote in message
> > news:zSz0b.126548$_R5.47273876@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net...
> > > I bought a 55 gallon tank, set it up, bought 2 African cichlids from
> > Petland
> > > Discounts (that is how they were labeled in their aquarium)... later I
> > > bought 5 more Africian Cichlids from a pure fish store and I know
there
> > > names... I would like to know the names of the two I bought at
Petland..
> > how
> > > can I show photos here and would that help?
> > >
> > > Also, one is very very agression (one of the petland ones), he has
taken
> > > over a cave in the rocks and runs every other fish (except Clyde the 4
1/2
> > > inch pleco) away... these are all baby fish, I know NetMAx usually has
> > good
> > > advice as do others... please help, I don't know if I should return
the
> > > super aggressive fish or not?
> > >
> > >
> >> Stay informed about: African Cichlids |
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2003 7:12 am
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"Mark" <rmc DeleteThis @uslink.net> wrote in message
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> Wow! I think you might be over-generalizing just a bit in regards to
> African cichlids. There are alot of species, they come from many
> bodies of water, and have many different behavioral traits. I have
> numerous (12 to be exact) 4-ft tanks with African cichlids and I don't
> experience anywhere near the carnage you describe. A few of the tanks
> are species-tanks that contain only Tropheus but most are community
> tanks.
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> If done correctly and with some thought, an African tank can be more
> rewarding than most people think and losses are no more common than
> with any other fish.
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I'd have to agree, just look at the difference between open lake and rock
dwellers. >> Stay informed about: African Cichlids |
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